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	<title>Comments on: Faux News talking head gleefully suggests &#8216;knocking off&#8217; Obama</title>
	<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/25/faux-news-talking-head-gleefully-suggests-knocking-off-obama/</link>
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		<title>by: Phoenician in a time of Romans</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/25/faux-news-talking-head-gleefully-suggests-knocking-off-obama/#comment-518798</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 16:11:28 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>There is a distinct difference between wishing something would happen and threatening it.  I may wish that Bush lose a fight with a pretzel, but the SS would only start to worry if I start sending economy packs of them to teh White House...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>There is a distinct difference between wishing something would happen and threatening it.  I may wish that Bush lose a fight with a pretzel, but the SS would only start to worry if I start sending economy packs of them to teh White House&#8230;
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		<title>by: Caren, Creator of Animorphic Pancakes</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/25/faux-news-talking-head-gleefully-suggests-knocking-off-obama/#comment-518770</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 14:14:08 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>More to the point of this post, Hillary's remarks were in no way as vile as this Liz person's.

Unfortunately, I doubt we'll even see an apology from Fox, much less any real censure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>More to the point of this post, Hillary&#8217;s remarks were in no way as vile as this Liz person&#8217;s.</p>
	<p>Unfortunately, I doubt we&#8217;ll even see an apology from Fox, much less any real censure.
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		<title>by: Caren, Creator of Animorphic Pancakes</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/25/faux-news-talking-head-gleefully-suggests-knocking-off-obama/#comment-518769</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 14:07:01 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Yes, Hillary really didn’t make herself very clear with how she referenced the RFK shooting, but at least her intentions weren’t about suggesting Obama’s assassination&lt;/blockquote&gt;Sorry, but I can't just grant her that distinction anymore.

It's not the first time she referenced the assassination.  It was quite possible for her to say &quot;campaign&quot; instead, in fact, given the situation with Teddy, if was more appropriate for her to do so.

Why didn't she?  Because she can be stopped with the fact that Bobby entered the race later, after LBJ backed out and that her husband actually had his campaign sewn up in March, since he had no serious competition after that. 

By referencing &quot;assassination&quot; she brings up not only the fears many have for Obama's candidacy, but the spectre of MLK's assassination the same year as Bobby and the Dem convention riots that year.  It was rehearsed and loaded.

She knows that her people are of the reality-based community.  The facts will matter to them more than the rhetoric.

Do I think she really wants Obama dead?  No.  Do I think she wants to capitalize on his death should he be murdered.  Absolutely, it's her most plausible scenario right now, and I think she and Bill are just vile enough to consider it.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>Yes, Hillary really didn’t make herself very clear with how she referenced the RFK shooting, but at least her intentions weren’t about suggesting Obama’s assassination</blockquote>
Sorry, but I can&#8217;t just grant her that distinction anymore.</p>
	<p>It&#8217;s not the first time she referenced the assassination.  It was quite possible for her to say &#8220;campaign&#8221; instead, in fact, given the situation with Teddy, if was more appropriate for her to do so.</p>
	<p>Why didn&#8217;t she?  Because she can be stopped with the fact that Bobby entered the race later, after LBJ backed out and that her husband actually had his campaign sewn up in March, since he had no serious competition after that. </p>
	<p>By referencing &#8220;assassination&#8221; she brings up not only the fears many have for Obama&#8217;s candidacy, but the spectre of MLK&#8217;s assassination the same year as Bobby and the Dem convention riots that year.  It was rehearsed and loaded.</p>
	<p>She knows that her people are of the reality-based community.  The facts will matter to them more than the rhetoric.</p>
	<p>Do I think she really wants Obama dead?  No.  Do I think she wants to capitalize on his death should he be murdered.  Absolutely, it&#8217;s her most plausible scenario right now, and I think she and Bill are just vile enough to consider it.
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		<title>by: patman</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/25/faux-news-talking-head-gleefully-suggests-knocking-off-obama/#comment-518756</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 13:08:39 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Under The United States Code, Title 18, Part I, Chapter XIV, Section 879: 

(a) Whoever knowingly and willfully threatens to kill, kidnap, or inflict bodily harm upon— 
(1) a former President or a member of the immediate family of a former President; 
(2) a member of the immediate family of the President, the President-elect, the Vice President, or the Vice President-elect; 
(3) a major candidate for the office of President or Vice President, or a member of the immediate family of such candidate; or 
(4) a person protected by the Secret Service under section 3056 (a)(6); 
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.

(b) As used in this section— 
(1) the term “immediate family” means— 
(A) with respect to subsection (a)(1) of this section, the wife of a former President during his lifetime, the widow of a former President until her death or remarriage, and minor children of a former President until they reach sixteen years of age; and 
(B) with respect to subsection (a)(2) and (a)(3) of this section, a person to whom the President, President-elect, Vice President, Vice President-elect, or major candidate for the office of President or Vice President— 
(i) is related by blood, marriage, or adoption; or 
(ii) stands in loco parentis; 
(2) the term “major candidate for the office of President or Vice President” means a candidate referred to in subsection (a)(7) of section 3056 of this title; and 
(3) the terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” have the meanings given those terms in section 871 (b) of this title
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Under The United States Code, Title 18, Part I, Chapter XIV, Section 879: </p>
	<p>(a) Whoever knowingly and willfully threatens to kill, kidnap, or inflict bodily harm upon—<br />
(1) a former President or a member of the immediate family of a former President;<br />
(2) a member of the immediate family of the President, the President-elect, the Vice President, or the Vice President-elect;<br />
(3) a major candidate for the office of President or Vice President, or a member of the immediate family of such candidate; or<br />
(4) a person protected by the Secret Service under section 3056 (a)(6);<br />
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.</p>
	<p>(b) As used in this section—<br />
(1) the term “immediate family” means—<br />
(A) with respect to subsection (a)(1) of this section, the wife of a former President during his lifetime, the widow of a former President until her death or remarriage, and minor children of a former President until they reach sixteen years of age; and<br />
(B) with respect to subsection (a)(2) and (a)(3) of this section, a person to whom the President, President-elect, Vice President, Vice President-elect, or major candidate for the office of President or Vice President—<br />
(i) is related by blood, marriage, or adoption; or<br />
(ii) stands in loco parentis;<br />
(2) the term “major candidate for the office of President or Vice President” means a candidate referred to in subsection (a)(7) of section 3056 of this title; and<br />
(3) the terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” have the meanings given those terms in section 871 (b) of this title
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		<title>by: calvinhobbes</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/25/faux-news-talking-head-gleefully-suggests-knocking-off-obama/#comment-518751</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 12:40:09 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>They always say that the Osama/Obama thing is just an imitation of Ted Kennedy accidently saying it once (yeah right.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>They always say that the Osama/Obama thing is just an imitation of Ted Kennedy accidently saying it once (yeah right.)
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		<title>by: the opoponax</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/25/faux-news-talking-head-gleefully-suggests-knocking-off-obama/#comment-518698</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 09:53:29 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Anybody remember the outcry that ensued from these assholes when that European movie about a theoretical assassination attempt on Bush came out?  Seriously, they were acting like the mere suggestion that Bush could be assassinated was an act of war.

And now this.  

IOKIYAR, indeed.

There are times I kind of wish the US had incitement laws in the way certain European countries do.  This is one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Anybody remember the outcry that ensued from these assholes when that European movie about a theoretical assassination attempt on Bush came out?  Seriously, they were acting like the mere suggestion that Bush could be assassinated was an act of war.</p>
	<p>And now this.  </p>
	<p>IOKIYAR, indeed.</p>
	<p>There are times I kind of wish the US had incitement laws in the way certain European countries do.  This is one of them.
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		<title>by: Foucault</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/25/faux-news-talking-head-gleefully-suggests-knocking-off-obama/#comment-518667</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 07:57:51 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;What gets me is that she said, “Both, if we really could,” and then laughed about it. What a psychopath.&quot;

I think she was just being honest. It's interesting that she started the interview foaming at the mouth about Clinton, but then showed her true thoughts about Obama in the process. She offered a candid glimpse into the MSM mind. I'm sure she is not alone in feeling this way: paying lip service to someone whom she despises. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;What gets me is that she said, “Both, if we really could,” and then laughed about it. What a psychopath.&#8221;</p>
	<p>I think she was just being honest. It&#8217;s interesting that she started the interview foaming at the mouth about Clinton, but then showed her true thoughts about Obama in the process. She offered a candid glimpse into the MSM mind. I&#8217;m sure she is not alone in feeling this way: paying lip service to someone whom she despises.
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		<title>by: Wayfaring Relation</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/25/faux-news-talking-head-gleefully-suggests-knocking-off-obama/#comment-518655</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 02:17:27 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Eric, Rejector of Memes:

Using the FOX tips box you describe, I attempted—unsuccessfully, I believe—to submit this tip:

“Telephone or Internet tips to the United States Secret Service, concerning a broadcast statement by FOX contributor Liz Trotta that expressed a desire for the assassination of presidential candidate Barack Obama, should be expected. Some of the tips may suggest that Liz Trotta be placed on the appropriate watch list.”

I think they''ll find it anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Eric, Rejector of Memes:</p>
	<p>Using the FOX tips box you describe, I attempted—unsuccessfully, I believe—to submit this tip:</p>
	<p>“Telephone or Internet tips to the United States Secret Service, concerning a broadcast statement by FOX contributor Liz Trotta that expressed a desire for the assassination of presidential candidate Barack Obama, should be expected. Some of the tips may suggest that Liz Trotta be placed on the appropriate watch list.”</p>
	<p>I think they'&#8217;ll find it anyway.
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		<title>by: LlamaCorey</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/25/faux-news-talking-head-gleefully-suggests-knocking-off-obama/#comment-518654</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 01:40:36 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>I hope they enjoy mine...

Secret Service agents could be investigating Liz Trotta for encouraging the assassination of presidential candidates.

LlamaCorey

... well they could be. Heck, they're probably investigating me for calling GWB &quot;Chimpy McCokespoon.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I hope they enjoy mine&#8230;</p>
	<p>Secret Service agents could be investigating Liz Trotta for encouraging the assassination of presidential candidates.</p>
	<p>LlamaCorey</p>
	<p>&#8230; well they could be. Heck, they&#8217;re probably investigating me for calling GWB &#8220;Chimpy McCokespoon.&#8221;
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		<title>by: LlamaCorey</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/25/faux-news-talking-head-gleefully-suggests-knocking-off-obama/#comment-518653</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 01:29:02 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>I hope they enjoy mine...

Secret Service agents could be investigating Liz Trotta for suggesting Obama should be assassinated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I hope they enjoy mine&#8230;</p>
	<p>Secret Service agents could be investigating Liz Trotta for suggesting Obama should be assassinated.
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