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	<title>Comments on: Ellen puts John McCain on the spot</title>
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		<title>by: Mel</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/22/7254/#comment-518474</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 22:21:11 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;I do hope that we won’t end up going the way of the Romans.&lt;/i&gt;

What, lead in the drinking water?

I don't know how you can bring yourself to read the Freepers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>I do hope that we won’t end up going the way of the Romans.</i></p>
	<p>What, lead in the drinking water?</p>
	<p>I don&#8217;t know how you can bring yourself to read the Freepers.
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		<title>by: Dan, Grand High Emperor of Bananas Foster</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/22/7254/#comment-518159</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 16:17:22 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>PiatoR:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Actually, I was thinking of a specific economic event, where your trade deficit made a certain figure flip from positive to negative.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, that's what I meant about how it depends on exactly how you define &quot;great power.&quot; The trade deficit is just one indicator of one aspect of geopolitical power, one that I have a hunch lags behind some of the other facets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>PiatoR:</p>
	<blockquote><p>Actually, I was thinking of a specific economic event, where your trade deficit made a certain figure flip from positive to negative.</p></blockquote>
	<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s what I meant about how it depends on exactly how you define &#8220;great power.&#8221; The trade deficit is just one indicator of one aspect of geopolitical power, one that I have a hunch lags behind some of the other facets.
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		<title>by: mnemosyne</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/22/7254/#comment-518086</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 10:15:13 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>The only thing I hold against Ellen is that when she had the &quot;coming out&quot; season of her show, she turned Bruce Campbell character into the intolerant guy, which meant that at the end of the season, he was off the show.

He probably had other commitments to other Sam Raimi projects that meant he had to leave the show, but I was still mad to not get my Bruce Campbell fix every week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The only thing I hold against Ellen is that when she had the &#8220;coming out&#8221; season of her show, she turned Bruce Campbell character into the intolerant guy, which meant that at the end of the season, he was off the show.</p>
	<p>He probably had other commitments to other Sam Raimi projects that meant he had to leave the show, but I was still mad to not get my Bruce Campbell fix every week.
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		<title>by: Phoenician in a time of Romans</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/22/7254/#comment-518022</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 05:29:10 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;I’d go even further than that, PiatoR, although it depends a little bit on exactly how you define the term “great power.” I think we started to see the plateau of tangible, meaningful American power towards the end of the Vietnam War, and it started on the downslope right around the time of the Ollie North trial.&lt;/i&gt;

Actually, I was thinking of a specific economic event, where your trade deficit made a certain figure flip from positive to negative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>I’d go even further than that, PiatoR, although it depends a little bit on exactly how you define the term “great power.” I think we started to see the plateau of tangible, meaningful American power towards the end of the Vietnam War, and it started on the downslope right around the time of the Ollie North trial.</i></p>
	<p>Actually, I was thinking of a specific economic event, where your trade deficit made a certain figure flip from positive to negative.
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		<title>by: Dan, Grand High Emperor of Bananas Foster</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/22/7254/#comment-518002</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 23:02:08 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Oh, yeah, and I've always liked Ellen, but she's become even more awesome since the CA ruling. She really nailed McPain to the wall in that clip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Oh, yeah, and I&#8217;ve always liked Ellen, but she&#8217;s become even more awesome since the CA ruling. She really nailed McPain to the wall in that clip.
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		<title>by: Dan, Grand High Emperor of Bananas Foster</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/22/7254/#comment-518001</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 23:00:18 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>I'd go even further than that, PiatoR, although it depends a little bit on exactly how you define the term &quot;great power.&quot; I think we started to see the plateau of tangible, meaningful American power towards the end of the Vietnam War, and it started on the downslope right around the time of the Ollie North trial.

Sadly, I think that a century from now, the Clinton years are going to be seen as nothing more than an ever-so-slight blip on the inexorable downward curve that is the future of America.

I actually wrote a blog post about exactly this sometime last year, but I'm too lazy to comb through my archives to find it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;d go even further than that, PiatoR, although it depends a little bit on exactly how you define the term &#8220;great power.&#8221; I think we started to see the plateau of tangible, meaningful American power towards the end of the Vietnam War, and it started on the downslope right around the time of the Ollie North trial.</p>
	<p>Sadly, I think that a century from now, the Clinton years are going to be seen as nothing more than an ever-so-slight blip on the inexorable downward curve that is the future of America.</p>
	<p>I actually wrote a blog post about exactly this sometime last year, but I&#8217;m too lazy to comb through my archives to find it.
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		<title>by: Phoenician in a time of Romans</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/22/7254/#comment-517992</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 22:11:18 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;Another reason why McCain shouldn’t worry about America going the way of the Romans. Between the Republic and the Empire Rome was a great power for nearly 1000 years. I’d be shocked (well, dead, but shocked and dead) if America is a great power for a quarter of that.&lt;/i&gt;

You really started as a great power in the early part of the 20th century, about WWI.

I can present an argument that you reached your apogee in 1998, and you're now on the downward slope. 250 years is optimistic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Another reason why McCain shouldn’t worry about America going the way of the Romans. Between the Republic and the Empire Rome was a great power for nearly 1000 years. I’d be shocked (well, dead, but shocked and dead) if America is a great power for a quarter of that.</i></p>
	<p>You really started as a great power in the early part of the 20th century, about WWI.</p>
	<p>I can present an argument that you reached your apogee in 1998, and you&#8217;re now on the downward slope. 250 years is optimistic.
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		<title>by: Nancy</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/22/7254/#comment-517979</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 21:39:23 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Ellen is the anti-Dennis Miller. 

Funny, cool and courageous. And much much more successful. yay!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ellen is the anti-Dennis Miller. </p>
	<p>Funny, cool and courageous. And much much more successful. yay!
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		<title>by: Grimgrin</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/22/7254/#comment-517966</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 20:50:36 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Another reason why McCain shouldn't worry about America going the way of the Romans. Between the Republic and the Empire Rome was a great power for nearly 1000 years. I'd be shocked (well, dead, but shocked and dead) if America is a great power for a quarter of that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Another reason why McCain shouldn&#8217;t worry about America going the way of the Romans. Between the Republic and the Empire Rome was a great power for nearly 1000 years. I&#8217;d be shocked (well, dead, but shocked and dead) if America is a great power for a quarter of that.
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		<title>by: Aman</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/22/7254/#comment-517961</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 20:41:41 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Here's the video of Clinton on Ellen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS-iVY3mmxg&amp;amp;NR=1

The question comes up about fifty seconds in.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Here&#8217;s the video of Clinton on Ellen:<br />
<a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS-iVY3mmxg&amp;NR=1' rel='nofollow'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS-iVY3mmxg&amp;NR=1</a></p>
	<p>The question comes up about fifty seconds in.
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