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		<title>by: squashed</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/21/gas-prices-about-more-than-transportation/#comment-518889</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 07:05:39 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Everything will be that much more expensive. start stocking up on consumable that depends on oil! 	



Bush 'plans Iran air strike by August'

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JE28Ak01.html

Sense in the senate
Details provided by the administration raised alarm bells on Capitol Hill, the source said. After receiving secret briefings on the planned air strike, Senator Diane Feinstein, Democrat of California, and Senator Richard Lugar, Republican of Indiana, said they would write a New York Times op-ed piece &quot;within days&quot;, the source said last week, to express their opposition. Feinstein is a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee and Lugar is the ranking Republican on the Foreign Relations Committee.

Senate offices were closed for the US Memorial Day holiday, so Feinstein and Lugar were not available for comment.

Given their obligations to uphold the secrecy of classified information, it is unlikely the senators would reveal the Bush administration's plan or their knowledge of it. However, going public on the issue, even without specifics, would likely create a public groundswell of criticism that could induce the Bush administration reconsider its plan.

The proposed air strike on Iran would have huge implications for geopolitics and for the ongoing US presidential campaign. The biggest question, of course, is how would Iran respond? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Everything will be that much more expensive. start stocking up on consumable that depends on oil! 	</p>
	<p>Bush &#8216;plans Iran air strike by August&#8217;</p>
	<p><a href='http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JE28Ak01.html' rel='nofollow'>http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JE28Ak01.html</a></p>
	<p>Sense in the senate<br />
Details provided by the administration raised alarm bells on Capitol Hill, the source said. After receiving secret briefings on the planned air strike, Senator Diane Feinstein, Democrat of California, and Senator Richard Lugar, Republican of Indiana, said they would write a New York Times op-ed piece &#8220;within days&#8221;, the source said last week, to express their opposition. Feinstein is a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee and Lugar is the ranking Republican on the Foreign Relations Committee.</p>
	<p>Senate offices were closed for the US Memorial Day holiday, so Feinstein and Lugar were not available for comment.</p>
	<p>Given their obligations to uphold the secrecy of classified information, it is unlikely the senators would reveal the Bush administration&#8217;s plan or their knowledge of it. However, going public on the issue, even without specifics, would likely create a public groundswell of criticism that could induce the Bush administration reconsider its plan.</p>
	<p>The proposed air strike on Iran would have huge implications for geopolitics and for the ongoing US presidential campaign. The biggest question, of course, is how would Iran respond?
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		<title>by: inge</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/21/gas-prices-about-more-than-transportation/#comment-518598</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 18:57:55 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Alara: &lt;i&gt; “The seat belt is too high to be safe for children” is an absolutely bullshit reason to make parents buy more equipment. Make the car so that the seat belt can be *moved*.&lt;/i&gt;

Oh, &lt;i&gt;word&lt;/i&gt;. I'm not short, but when I sit in a car, the seat belt is chafing my neck. I worry that in case of an accident it will be &lt;i&gt;across&lt;/i&gt; my neck... I can actually adjust it, but not enough. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Alara: <i> “The seat belt is too high to be safe for children” is an absolutely bullshit reason to make parents buy more equipment. Make the car so that the seat belt can be *moved*.</i></p>
	<p>Oh, <i>word</i>. I&#8217;m not short, but when I sit in a car, the seat belt is chafing my neck. I worry that in case of an accident it will be <i>across</i> my neck&#8230; I can actually adjust it, but not enough.
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		<title>by: inge</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/21/gas-prices-about-more-than-transportation/#comment-518595</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 18:34:26 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Re: saving on groceries: That's something easily done for me, because I buy local and (if possible) organic. I could get e.g. Spanish tomatos for 1 Euro per kilo, but the local ones start at 2.50. Same with potatoes. Milk is 30% cheaper at the discounter, meat and eggs 50%. Only, industrially produced food that has been carted through half the continent isn't exactly something I wish to spend money on...

Transport: Going by train is a similar problem: It might be more sustainable, but it's more expensive than driving. (More than a rental car, sometimes.) So instead I try to get ride-sharers for longer distances. With four people in the car, gas is paid for. 

Heating: As long as it's not freezing badly outside, I heat only one room in the flat, and only in the hours when I'm at home and awake. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Re: saving on groceries: That&#8217;s something easily done for me, because I buy local and (if possible) organic. I could get e.g. Spanish tomatos for 1 Euro per kilo, but the local ones start at 2.50. Same with potatoes. Milk is 30% cheaper at the discounter, meat and eggs 50%. Only, industrially produced food that has been carted through half the continent isn&#8217;t exactly something I wish to spend money on&#8230;</p>
	<p>Transport: Going by train is a similar problem: It might be more sustainable, but it&#8217;s more expensive than driving. (More than a rental car, sometimes.) So instead I try to get ride-sharers for longer distances. With four people in the car, gas is paid for. </p>
	<p>Heating: As long as it&#8217;s not freezing badly outside, I heat only one room in the flat, and only in the hours when I&#8217;m at home and awake.
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		<title>by: Helen H</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/21/gas-prices-about-more-than-transportation/#comment-518450</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 20:29:21 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>New England Farmers' Markets references, as requested somewhere above.

http://gonewengland.about.com/od/farmersmarkets/Farms_and_Farmers_Markets.htm

http://northernnewengland.com/farmersmarkets/index.shtml

http://www.mass.gov/agr/massgrown/farmers_markets.htm

http://www.nhfma.org/workshops.htm

Google and Yahoo search are your friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>New England Farmers&#8217; Markets references, as requested somewhere above.</p>
	<p><a href='http://gonewengland.about.com/od/farmersmarkets/Farms_and_Farmers_Markets.htm' rel='nofollow'>http://gonewengland.about.com/od/farmersmarkets/Farms_and_Farmers_Markets.htm</a></p>
	<p><a href='http://northernnewengland.com/farmersmarkets/index.shtml' rel='nofollow'>http://northernnewengland.com/farmersmarkets/index.shtml</a></p>
	<p><a href='http://www.mass.gov/agr/massgrown/farmers_markets.htm' rel='nofollow'>http://www.mass.gov/agr/massgrown/farmers_markets.htm</a></p>
	<p><a href='http://www.nhfma.org/workshops.htm' rel='nofollow'>http://www.nhfma.org/workshops.htm</a></p>
	<p>Google and Yahoo search are your friends.
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		<title>by: Cris</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/21/gas-prices-about-more-than-transportation/#comment-518184</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 17:51:19 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Speaking of collective solutions, here's an interesting bit from the latest edition of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hcn.org/servlets/hcn.Article?article_id=17711&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;High Country News&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;blockquote&gt;...many Western communities are working to push local food production into the mainstream. A handful of public school districts on Colorado’s Front Range, for example, are switching to locally grown beef and vegetables, despite the increased cost, and a meat plant near Colorado Springs has seen a 30 percent jump in local beef sales over the past year alone. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Speaking of collective solutions, here&#8217;s an interesting bit from the latest edition of <a href="http://www.hcn.org/servlets/hcn.Article?article_id=17711" rel="nofollow">High Country News</a>:</p>
	<blockquote><p>&#8230;many Western communities are working to push local food production into the mainstream. A handful of public school districts on Colorado’s Front Range, for example, are switching to locally grown beef and vegetables, despite the increased cost, and a meat plant near Colorado Springs has seen a 30 percent jump in local beef sales over the past year alone. </p></blockquote>
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		<title>by: Dan, Grand High Emperor of Bananas Foster</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/21/gas-prices-about-more-than-transportation/#comment-518157</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 16:14:22 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Libby:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Dan baby

You got ANYTHING besides namecalling. 

Weak weak weak.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Really? &lt;i&gt;All&lt;/i&gt; you got out of my post was that I called you a mean name? You can't possibly be &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; cluelessly self-obsessed, can you?

You know, I realize that you're ideologically required to feel persecuted and put-upon by everyone and everything who isn't doing exactly what you want them to do, but I was at least willing to give you the benefit of the doubt on general reading comprehension skills and intellectual honesty. I mean, I'm glad that you didn't try to argue my point, but I'd be pretty disappointed in you if it was because you didn't actually understand what you were reading rather than because you're too craven and self-serving to admit that you can't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Libby:</p>
	<blockquote><p>Dan baby</p>
	<p>You got ANYTHING besides namecalling. </p>
	<p>Weak weak weak.</p></blockquote>
	<p>Really? <i>All</i> you got out of my post was that I called you a mean name? You can&#8217;t possibly be <i>that</i> cluelessly self-obsessed, can you?</p>
	<p>You know, I realize that you&#8217;re ideologically required to feel persecuted and put-upon by everyone and everything who isn&#8217;t doing exactly what you want them to do, but I was at least willing to give you the benefit of the doubt on general reading comprehension skills and intellectual honesty. I mean, I&#8217;m glad that you didn&#8217;t try to argue my point, but I&#8217;d be pretty disappointed in you if it was because you didn&#8217;t actually understand what you were reading rather than because you&#8217;re too craven and self-serving to admit that you can&#8217;t.
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		<title>by: rowmyboat</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/21/gas-prices-about-more-than-transportation/#comment-518149</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 15:54:34 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Re: cars and gas mileage.  

I drive a '95 Subaru Legacy wagon (automatic), and it gets about 25 mpg.  For me its pretty much the same city/highway, cause I drive it gently and with an eye on the rpm meter.  Also, it tends not to break in expensive ways, and it's really easy to do work on it, so I do basic stuff myself.  Can't speak for newer ones, though.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Re: cars and gas mileage.  </p>
	<p>I drive a &#8216;95 Subaru Legacy wagon (automatic), and it gets about 25 mpg.  For me its pretty much the same city/highway, cause I drive it gently and with an eye on the rpm meter.  Also, it tends not to break in expensive ways, and it&#8217;s really easy to do work on it, so I do basic stuff myself.  Can&#8217;t speak for newer ones, though.
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		<title>by: Julie</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/21/gas-prices-about-more-than-transportation/#comment-518133</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 14:34:13 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Melissa,  I have a 4 year old and a 2 year old, so they are both in car seats and what we have is a Pontiac grand am and a Chevy venture mini-van. The Pontiac gets great gas mileage for all of our around town trips,  and then we use the venture for trips where we need the space, when we need to haul things, when we have people besides us and the kids, etc... According to the internal computer in my venture, it gets about 21.5 mpg around town, which isn't great but nowhere near as bad as if you have an SUV, and we can fit almost anything in it if we put the seats down. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Melissa,  I have a 4 year old and a 2 year old, so they are both in car seats and what we have is a Pontiac grand am and a Chevy venture mini-van. The Pontiac gets great gas mileage for all of our around town trips,  and then we use the venture for trips where we need the space, when we need to haul things, when we have people besides us and the kids, etc&#8230; According to the internal computer in my venture, it gets about 21.5 mpg around town, which isn&#8217;t great but nowhere near as bad as if you have an SUV, and we can fit almost anything in it if we put the seats down.
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		<title>by: Caren, Creator of Animorphic Pancakes</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/21/gas-prices-about-more-than-transportation/#comment-518114</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 12:17:25 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Did Chicago ever get it’s transit pass act together and get the commuter trains hooked into the bus and El passes?&lt;/blockquote&gt;No.  But the governor managed to shoehorn-in free rides for seniors in the latest financing fiasco. (Seriously, the CTA was going to shut down and went through 3 'doomsday' scenario deadlines before the gov't finally decided to pay up.  Now, how is Chicago getting the Olympics again?) 

My dad doesn't understand why they don't want his money anymore--wasn't like he was trying to get a free ride--but he takes it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>Did Chicago ever get it’s transit pass act together and get the commuter trains hooked into the bus and El passes?</blockquote>
No.  But the governor managed to shoehorn-in free rides for seniors in the latest financing fiasco. (Seriously, the CTA was going to shut down and went through 3 &#8216;doomsday&#8217; scenario deadlines before the gov&#8217;t finally decided to pay up.  Now, how is Chicago getting the Olympics again?) </p>
	<p>My dad doesn&#8217;t understand why they don&#8217;t want his money anymore&#8211;wasn&#8217;t like he was trying to get a free ride&#8211;but he takes it.
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		<title>by: Libertarian</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/21/gas-prices-about-more-than-transportation/#comment-518035</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 07:43:20 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Dan baby

You got ANYTHING besides namecalling. 

Weak weak weak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Dan baby</p>
	<p>You got ANYTHING besides namecalling. </p>
	<p>Weak weak weak.
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