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	<title>Comments on: Faux News host equates Ellen&#8217;s marriage announcement with discussing bowel movements</title>
	<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/21/faux-news-host-equates-ellens-marriage-announcement-with-discussing-bowel-movements/</link>
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		<title>by: seeker6079</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/21/faux-news-host-equates-ellens-marriage-announcement-with-discussing-bowel-movements/#comment-517734</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 07:15:41 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So, hence, it is about Ellen’s sexuality. Ellen’s wedding. Ellen’s emotions.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Sarah, that also might have a lot to do with the media's &quot;a-list, b-list [etc]&quot; frames.  Ellen is higher up the Famous Food Chain(TM) than Ms. de Rossi, so it's all about her.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>So, hence, it is about Ellen’s sexuality. Ellen’s wedding. Ellen’s emotions.</blockquote>
Sarah, that also might have a lot to do with the media&#8217;s &#8220;a-list, b-list [etc]&#8221; frames.  Ellen is higher up the Famous Food Chain(TM) than Ms. de Rossi, so it&#8217;s all about her.
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		<title>by: Jacky Tar</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/21/faux-news-host-equates-ellens-marriage-announcement-with-discussing-bowel-movements/#comment-517636</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 19:23:02 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>I find it interesting that in the quote of Gutfeld's words, the first adjectives he chooses to employ regarding Portia de Rossi (&quot;stunningly hot&quot;) are an evaluation of her physical attractiveness and by extension, an expression of how he views her - that is to say, as a potential sperm bucket. Speaks volumes about him, it does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I find it interesting that in the quote of Gutfeld&#8217;s words, the first adjectives he chooses to employ regarding Portia de Rossi (&#8221;stunningly hot&#8221;) are an evaluation of her physical attractiveness and by extension, an expression of how he views her - that is to say, as a potential sperm bucket. Speaks volumes about him, it does.
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		<title>by: Orange</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/21/faux-news-host-equates-ellens-marriage-announcement-with-discussing-bowel-movements/#comment-517576</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 15:41:08 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Star Jones' overly public wedding planning was gross. Tom Cruise's couch-hopping declarations of love were risible. But I don't recall anyone likening either to a discussion of poop talk. Go ahead and mock Ellen as &quot;cheesy celeb who thinks people care about her wedding&quot; if you must, but singling her out because she's gay? C'mon, Gutfeld. Don't be a hater.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Star Jones&#8217; overly public wedding planning was gross. Tom Cruise&#8217;s couch-hopping declarations of love were risible. But I don&#8217;t recall anyone likening either to a discussion of poop talk. Go ahead and mock Ellen as &#8220;cheesy celeb who thinks people care about her wedding&#8221; if you must, but singling her out because she&#8217;s gay? C&#8217;mon, Gutfeld. Don&#8217;t be a hater.
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		<title>by: Eric, Rejector of Memes</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/21/faux-news-host-equates-ellens-marriage-announcement-with-discussing-bowel-movements/#comment-517574</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 15:36:32 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;....they expect to have access to sexually, merely by virtue of being heterosexual men..&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

The day I 'expect' to have sexual access to someone as hot as de Rossi due to my straightness is the day I know I've imbibed too many hallucinogens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>&#8220;&#8230;.they expect to have access to sexually, merely by virtue of being heterosexual men..&#8221;</i></p>
	<p>The day I &#8216;expect&#8217; to have sexual access to someone as hot as de Rossi due to my straightness is the day I know I&#8217;ve imbibed too many hallucinogens.
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		<title>by: michael, lurker of websites</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/21/faux-news-host-equates-ellens-marriage-announcement-with-discussing-bowel-movements/#comment-517554</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 14:27:42 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But if you click the link, you not only find he made a big public stink about his odious heterosexuality by getting married, he wrote about it at length in his book.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Have you read the book?  Because it's possible he wrote chapter after chapter discussing memorable trips to the loo.  (Given his sense of humor, it wouldn't even surprise me).  In which case, he wouldn't be hypoctical at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>But if you click the link, you not only find he made a big public stink about his odious heterosexuality by getting married, he wrote about it at length in his book.</p></blockquote>
	<p>Have you read the book?  Because it&#8217;s possible he wrote chapter after chapter discussing memorable trips to the loo.  (Given his sense of humor, it wouldn&#8217;t even surprise me).  In which case, he wouldn&#8217;t be hypoctical at all.
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		<title>by: Amanda Marcotte</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/21/faux-news-host-equates-ellens-marriage-announcement-with-discussing-bowel-movements/#comment-517544</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 14:09:24 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>I think the &quot;but she dated men!&quot; hook to deny her lesbianism would exist, but is an after-the-fact justification for an unwillingness to admit that such femme and &quot;fuckable&quot; lesbians do exist.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I think the &#8220;but she dated men!&#8221; hook to deny her lesbianism would exist, but is an after-the-fact justification for an unwillingness to admit that such femme and &#8220;fuckable&#8221; lesbians do exist.
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		<title>by: Amanda Marcotte</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/21/faux-news-host-equates-ellens-marriage-announcement-with-discussing-bowel-movements/#comment-517541</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 14:04:37 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Heh, I love how big a hypocrite he is.  At bare minimum, if he was to live by the standard he professes, he'd not be married or wear a wedding ring.  But if you click the link, you not only find he made a big public stink about his odious heterosexuality by getting married, he wrote about it at length in his book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Heh, I love how big a hypocrite he is.  At bare minimum, if he was to live by the standard he professes, he&#8217;d not be married or wear a wedding ring.  But if you click the link, you not only find he made a big public stink about his odious heterosexuality by getting married, he wrote about it at length in his book.
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		<title>by: The Opoponax</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/21/faux-news-host-equates-ellens-marriage-announcement-with-discussing-bowel-movements/#comment-517520</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 12:56:25 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;Well, maybe it would for you, but that’s you. She’s openly talked about identifying as gay, not as bisexual. She’d been with women before, tried to pretend, but it didn’t work.&lt;/i&gt;

Sarah, I'm not trying to argue and honestly don't care that much how Portia De Rossi identifies.  My main point is that the stupider parts of the media may not see her as legitimately gay for that reason.  I don't agree with the idea that there are degrees of &quot;gayness&quot;, or that having a hetero relationship in your past makes you &quot;not really a lesbian&quot;, or even that there is a hard and fast line between lesbian and bisexual.  

But I do see a lot of reasons why the MSM (which has a historical inability to get the finer points of all this stuff) might talk more about Ellen's wedding, Ellen's relationship, Ellen's sexuality, etc. etc. aside from it just being about Portia presenting as more femme while Ellen's public image is very much of the stereotypical short hair comfy shoes Lesbian (tm) .  Though I agree that there is also that element of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Well, maybe it would for you, but that’s you. She’s openly talked about identifying as gay, not as bisexual. She’d been with women before, tried to pretend, but it didn’t work.</i></p>
	<p>Sarah, I&#8217;m not trying to argue and honestly don&#8217;t care that much how Portia De Rossi identifies.  My main point is that the stupider parts of the media may not see her as legitimately gay for that reason.  I don&#8217;t agree with the idea that there are degrees of &#8220;gayness&#8221;, or that having a hetero relationship in your past makes you &#8220;not really a lesbian&#8221;, or even that there is a hard and fast line between lesbian and bisexual.  </p>
	<p>But I do see a lot of reasons why the MSM (which has a historical inability to get the finer points of all this stuff) might talk more about Ellen&#8217;s wedding, Ellen&#8217;s relationship, Ellen&#8217;s sexuality, etc. etc. aside from it just being about Portia presenting as more femme while Ellen&#8217;s public image is very much of the stereotypical short hair comfy shoes Lesbian &#8482; .  Though I agree that there is also that element of it.
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		<title>by: Level Best</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/21/faux-news-host-equates-ellens-marriage-announcement-with-discussing-bowel-movements/#comment-517512</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 12:28:19 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Gutfeld won't be making any new friends by hating on Ellen.  I don't know anyone who doesn't either like or love her and her show.  Even though I'm in a particularly rusty part of the Bible Belt, even the older churchy people here watch her and laugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Gutfeld won&#8217;t be making any new friends by hating on Ellen.  I don&#8217;t know anyone who doesn&#8217;t either like or love her and her show.  Even though I&#8217;m in a particularly rusty part of the Bible Belt, even the older churchy people here watch her and laugh.
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		<title>by: norbizness</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/21/faux-news-host-equates-ellens-marriage-announcement-with-discussing-bowel-movements/#comment-517511</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 12:27:36 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Well, she was only acting as a beard to Tobias Fünke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Well, she was only acting as a beard to Tobias Fünke.
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