OK, folks, we all know Faux News is chock full of sick f*cks, but the cat box king of the week is Red Eye’s Greg Gutfeld, who has a conniption over Ellen DeGeneres announcing on the air that she plans to marry Portia de Rossi. He thinks she needs to closet herself rather than declare her love for her partner — because it offends him in a manner that is akin to jawboning about taking a crap. Thanks to folks at Media Matters, we have the clip of this, ahem, turd.
Mike also notes at his pad that E.D. Hill, subbing for Bill O’Reilly, had a guest on intimating Ellen’s joyous announcement will drive sponsors away.During the May 20 edition of Fox News’ Red Eye, host Greg Gutfeld criticized Ellen DeGeneres for “announc[ing] on her show that she’s marrying the stunningly hot Portia de Rossi.” Gutfeld said: “As you know, seeing Ellen happy makes me happy, for everyone should be happy with the one they love, be they straight, gay, transgendered, bicurious, master, slave, S&M, or even Belgian — especially Belgian, those miserable bastards deserve it.” Later, Gutfeld added, “For me, public exhortations of love are no different than telling everyone how great your bowel movements are since switching to All-Bran — no one gives a [bleep] except you.”
Gutfeld’s comments were previously noted by Michelangelo Signorile on his blog, The Gist.
The crazed guest, Laura Ries, an “advertising expert,” says there is a “danger” to Ellen talking about getting married. Hill ponders something she finds more interesting: “How did a 50-year-old woman get a 35-year-old woman?”As someone at my pad noted,
[T]he elaborate preface about how “everyone deserves to be happy, whether [long list of increasingly outré sexual practices]” really sounds like a contemporary version of the old saw “I’m not prejudiced, some of my best friends are members of the group I’m about to denounce.”)Ellen’s announcement was benign and unremarkable other than the legal news that make it possible to marry; certainly everyone has seen all sorts of on-air proposals, discussions about spouses, and talk about being pregnant/having a baby by celebs, anchors, etc. Do you see anyone saying a morning anchor announcing she’s going to have a baby is flaunting the fact she had to boink her husband to get knocked up? Of course not.But I think it’s only plausible for him to bother to make these comments in a homophobic context. Every day people announce publicly that they’re going to get married. Why does this particular announcement result in a tirade? Even he couldn’t possibly actually believe that publicly announcing a marriage makes it unlikely to succeed (which is not to say that he doesn’t demonstrate a level of idiocy that makes it pretty hard to imagine him tying his shoes unassisted), and as Media Matters points out, he talks quite a bit about his wife.
So to follow it all up with “you don’t see me going on publicly about my marriage”–that’s not only false, but the lamest het move on the books. It makes me scream when I hear people say things like ‘why do they have to flaunt their sexuality [by innocuous behavior like holding hands in public]? You don’t hear me discussing my relations with my wife’–when they’ve just referred casually to their children.
Gutfeld rode the heterosupremacy horse onto the set of Red Eye and let it take a dump on the air.
You might recall that Gutfeld is the same guy who hurled every nasty slur you can imagine about pregnant transman Thomas Beatie. See that below the fold.
He belched out transphobic filth for what seems like an eternity.
“‘Would you like to meet my mommy? She has a mustache and can bench press 250.’” Thomas Beatie says she’s a man and the press calls Beatie a man. And he..she…IT calls it a miracle.”
He later “apologized.”
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It’s a profound shock that this isn’t as popular as the Daily Show, or even 2:30 a.m. Billy Mays OxiClean infomercials.
I guess it would all be okay if George Takei married Ellen and they both lived separately and had their own “secret” families. That would keep marriage sacred.
What is wrong with these people?
I guess I just can’t imagine why anybody would be so nasty toward Ellen Degeneres.
I remember when she was still just doing standup - she was funny, clean, interesting. So she had a lesbian vibe - who cares?
She seems like one of the few genuinely nice people in showbiz. I wish her only the best. If getting married is her desire, let her get married and keep your mouth shut about it, Faux News…
If he has such a problem with teh gay, why was he paying any attention to Ellen’s show? I mean, come on now…
You know what I want?
I want Ellen to talk about her wedding on her show Every. Single. Fuckin’. Day from now till the actual event. I want her to singlehandedly desensitize Middle America about this shit and show them that, hey, lesbian marriage is actually not really all that different from hetero marriage, and has pretty much nothing in common with a bowel movement whatsoever.
I want to hear about the guest list, the flowers, the vows, the clothes, what “their song” will be, where this will take place, etc. etc. etc. I want this to be the LGBT equivalent of princess fucking diana.
And yeah, seriously, what MikeEss said. I don’t even get to see her talk show, but I still love Ellen. Ellen Degeneres’ coming out via her sitcom actually kind of helped me realize I was queer. The only thing that enables my mom to be kind of OK with the whole “Opoponax Likes Girls” thing is that Ellen does, too, and she’s awesome.
No surprises here. People like that don’t see gays as human so the natural inclination for people like that is to equate them with something inhuman and disgusting, hence excrement.
It does puzzle me, though, in one way. People like that already have a tried-and-true word that fits into their mindset and political lineage and so why are they so timid about using it?
“Subhuman”.
Good for Ellen. She’s always been one of the funniest comics around, and I’m sure that really grates on guys like Gutfeld who want to be funny. There’s a hilarious book out satirizing guys like him and Fox News: “The Department of Homeland Decency: Decency Rules and Regulations Manual.” The deptartment’s mottos is “We are marching proudly backwards to the future.” Fox was created to lead that march, and they are still out there doing it.
the subtext makes it obvious: the problem is not that Ellen’s getting married, it’s that she took a fuckable woman off the market.
they’re supposed to leave the hotties for the het men. Or possibly pr0n. Silly Ellen! /snark
and this:
in the context of HOLLYWOOD, where a boneless old creep like Michael Douglas can marry Catherine Zeta Jones with media blessing…well, it just displays an astounding chasm of pure idiocy.
Possible contender for worst possible discussion of marriage on tv: Some years ago, a local morning talk show host in Phoenix made an on-air marriage proposal to his girlfriend, who was sitting in the audience.
Awwwww…. The girlfriend was very surprised.
The guy’s wife, who was watching at home, was even more surprised.
This is the network that runs reality shows about hets cheating on their partners and signing a marriage license for cash. So what would you expect?
The pondering about a 50 year old landing a 35 year old ticks me off too. If they were a straight couple with the man being older, everyone would be high-fiving him for landing a younger, hot woman. Oh sure, there might be speculation about her being a money-grubber, but the man would be firmly patted on the back.
As One True Vegan and ohsohappy said, the hypocrisy of complaining that Ellen is too old for her fiancee is pretty rich given Hollywood’s long history of old men marrying young women. Double standard, much?
Given that Fox News’ owner married a woman 37 years younger than himself, Gutfeld may need to ix-nay on the fulminations lest he get a call from Rupert telling him to STFU.
Isn’t Rupert hte one involved in the sordid divorce? Dognapping, hookers, breaking and entering. I can’t tell these conservocrits apart.
I think Ellen talking about her wedding every day is a great idea. I hope she invites George Takei and his spouse. I hope they show the video. I want it to be a national holiday.
These fuckers are just vile.
It is rather touching that many readers here think that tallying instances of humorlessness, hypocrisy, bigotry, and gross humorlessness and hypocrisy in a 2:30 a.m. Fox News ‘comedy’ show.
Glenn Beck is your canary in a reactionary coalmine. If CNN hasn’t taken steps to involuntarily commit that jerkoff, you can safely assume that there is no threshold beneath which a Fox News personality could slip.
Maybe I should have finished that first paragraph. Add this to the end.
… “is an effective way of combating it. I would instead suggest finding its 78 regular viewers (77 if you exclude the Media Matters watchdog) and give them anti-insomnia medication.”
The pondering about a 50 year old landing a 35 year old ticks me off too.
Speaking of which, how did this guy react to Tom Cruise’s profession of love for his child bride? Wasn’t that a comparable age gap? At least Ellen didn’t jump up and down on a couch.
And Ted Kennedy’s grim diagnosis reminds me that his attractive wife was born when Ted was in law school — Ted was not exactly a hottie when they met as adults.
Wow. A common-or-garden white male hetero misogynist given space to air his opinions on TV. That almost never happens.
norbizness, the wingnut Christianist right has a history of vilifying Degeneres, as well as a history of dehumanizing gay marriage. And in a lot of ways, the Degeneres/De Rossi wedding is poised to introduce Middle America to what LGBT marriage really means.
I don’t really get what your issue with this post is.
Just think of how often the American public was subjected to Star Jones and her lavish wedding plans? Where was he then?
Note that Jones has recently filed for divorce. Perhaps she finally got the gaydar working.
Sometimes I wish I believed in hell, because it would make me feel better to know that this motherfucker would be going there.
Do homophobes have some kind of cognitive-dissonance-blocking medication they take on a daily basis? How could anyone say in one breath that Ellen got a standing O for announcing her engagement and that no one cares about it? I think just ignoring the support she got from her audience would have been more intellectually honest.
Also, how can you not care? They’re so damn cute together!
People only matter to idiots like this in terms of what’s in it for them. Gay men don’t count because he’s disgusted by us. Lesbians only count as fantasy objects.
I think that the age gap thing is less motivated by gender bias than the idea that lesbians only count as interesting if they are both hot. I don’t think it is really so much “how did Ellen land Portia” as “Why would Portia want Ellen (when it makes it so much less fun for us to imagine them in bed together.?)”
MikeEss tal;king about Fox News:
I guess I just can’t imagine why anybody would be so nasty toward Ellen Degeneres.
[…]
She seems like one of the few genuinely nice people in showbiz.
By the way, Mike - Bambi’s mother died, fairies don’t exist, and Old Yellow gets shot at the end of the movie.
Phoenician, that’s Old Yeller, and I’ve read the book and seen the movie…
I expect that kind of irrational hatred from religious types - we see evidence all the time.
But Faux? I guess I need to adjust my expectations even further down…
As cynical as I am, I still get caught off guard sometimes…
#19: I don’t have any issue with the post at all, and what about Rosie? Or George Takei?
George Takei: Do you guys have a self-destruct code, like, “Destruct sequence 1-A, 2-B, 3…”
[Bender’s head explodes]
Bender: Thanks a lot, Takei. Now everybody knows.
I think it’s interesting how they talk about Ellen’s lesbianism, but not Portia’s, even though she’s been dating women her entire adult life and has been out for quite a while now (her last gf was Ringo Star’s daughter - as a femme lesbian myself, I’ve followed her).
It’s as though because Ellen is more identifiable as the more generally accepted idea of what it means to be lesbian, whereas Portia corresponds to the image of femininity they expect to have access to sexually, merely by virtue of being heterosexual men, that they cannot consciously admit to positioning her as such, and hence outside of their ability to fuck.
So, hence, it is about Ellen’s sexuality. Ellen’s wedding. Ellen’s emotions.
But yes, on top of that is, of course, the normal mantra of we’re ‘allowed’ to be gay, so long as no one actually ever knows we exist, ever. Because, you know, their all-heterosexual fantasy world is more important than my ability to simply exist as a fully realised human being.
This is NOT a reason not to concentrate on her sexuality, but wasn’t Portia De Rossi married to a guy at some point?
For what it’s worth, I think you’re pretty much dead on, though I wonder how much of it has to do with the fact that Ellen is a “personality” — she generally appears as herself in the media, or a very close facsimile thereof. She has her own daytime talkshow, which puts her on a first name basis with huge chunks of people who may not be clued in to everyone who ever had a supporting role on Ally McBeal. It’s kind of like if Chris Rock was marrying that guy who played the President in the first season or so of 24.
but wasn’t Portia De Rossi married to a guy at some point?
Yup, Mel Metcalfe, but they divorced and she came out as gay. Same as a lot of lesbian women *shrug*
I mean, and?
And as to Ellen being the bigger star, I am sure that’s what they would claim. However, when comparing Catherine Zeta-Jones and Michael Douglas, the focus certainly wasn’t on him aside from some high-fives, it was on Zeta-Jones.
Isn’t Rupert hte one involved in the sordid divorce? Dognapping, hookers, breaking and entering. I can’t tell these conservocrits apart.
Nah, you’re thinking of Richard Scaife. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.
Rupert Murdoch is the one who declared himself a devout Catholic right before dumping his second wife for a woman 37 years younger than himself. He’s also the owner of Fox and all of its divisions.
I mean, and?
And therefore the claim that she “has been dating women her entire adult life” is kind of disingenuous. I’m bisexual. If I married a man, divorced him, and my next two relationships were with women, I would kind of feel like painting myself as a flat-out lesbian would be sort of a lie.
Which is not to say that Portia is “lying”, per se, but that I understand why the stupid media (especially the stupider parts of the stupid media) would consider her not exactly a lesbian or ‘less gay than’ Ellen.
And again, I will repeat that I agree with the gist of your post, and agree that there is a HUGE issue with only butch women being seen by the larger public as lesbians, which makes me (as a non-butch bisexual woman) feel just as invisible as you probably feel when this happens.
I would kind of feel like painting myself as a flat-out lesbian would be sort of a lie.
Well, maybe it would for you, but that’s you. She’s openly talked about identifying as gay, not as bisexual. She’d been with women before, tried to pretend, but it didn’t work.
Yes, this kind of a focus on a small part of her life generally is used by many to portray such as ‘less gay’, as though one needs a gold-star in order to be a ‘proper’ lesbian.
I’ve fucked guys, dated some awesome guys. But it was a mistake. Doesn’t make me any less lesbian. Similarly for de Rossi. Having a blip for a couple years does in no way somehow invalidate the statement of “dated women her entire adult life”.
Well, she was only acting as a beard to Tobias Fünke.
Gutfeld won’t be making any new friends by hating on Ellen. I don’t know anyone who doesn’t either like or love her and her show. Even though I’m in a particularly rusty part of the Bible Belt, even the older churchy people here watch her and laugh.
Well, maybe it would for you, but that’s you. She’s openly talked about identifying as gay, not as bisexual. She’d been with women before, tried to pretend, but it didn’t work.
Sarah, I’m not trying to argue and honestly don’t care that much how Portia De Rossi identifies. My main point is that the stupider parts of the media may not see her as legitimately gay for that reason. I don’t agree with the idea that there are degrees of “gayness”, or that having a hetero relationship in your past makes you “not really a lesbian”, or even that there is a hard and fast line between lesbian and bisexual.
But I do see a lot of reasons why the MSM (which has a historical inability to get the finer points of all this stuff) might talk more about Ellen’s wedding, Ellen’s relationship, Ellen’s sexuality, etc. etc. aside from it just being about Portia presenting as more femme while Ellen’s public image is very much of the stereotypical short hair comfy shoes Lesbian ™ . Though I agree that there is also that element of it.
Heh, I love how big a hypocrite he is. At bare minimum, if he was to live by the standard he professes, he’d not be married or wear a wedding ring. But if you click the link, you not only find he made a big public stink about his odious heterosexuality by getting married, he wrote about it at length in his book.
I think the “but she dated men!” hook to deny her lesbianism would exist, but is an after-the-fact justification for an unwillingness to admit that such femme and “fuckable” lesbians do exist.
Have you read the book? Because it’s possible he wrote chapter after chapter discussing memorable trips to the loo. (Given his sense of humor, it wouldn’t even surprise me). In which case, he wouldn’t be hypoctical at all.
“….they expect to have access to sexually, merely by virtue of being heterosexual men..”
The day I ‘expect’ to have sexual access to someone as hot as de Rossi due to my straightness is the day I know I’ve imbibed too many hallucinogens.
Star Jones’ overly public wedding planning was gross. Tom Cruise’s couch-hopping declarations of love were risible. But I don’t recall anyone likening either to a discussion of poop talk. Go ahead and mock Ellen as “cheesy celeb who thinks people care about her wedding” if you must, but singling her out because she’s gay? C’mon, Gutfeld. Don’t be a hater.
I find it interesting that in the quote of Gutfeld’s words, the first adjectives he chooses to employ regarding Portia de Rossi (”stunningly hot”) are an evaluation of her physical attractiveness and by extension, an expression of how he views her - that is to say, as a potential sperm bucket. Speaks volumes about him, it does.
Sarah, that also might have a lot to do with the media’s “a-list, b-list [etc]” frames. Ellen is higher up the Famous Food Chain(TM) than Ms. de Rossi, so it’s all about her.