And I thought I was through with the Prada-wearing pontiff after his expected bleating about man-woman marriage in light of the Cali Supreme Court’s ruling.

While gay state-side Catholics are told by the church that they can be gay — but celibate, take a look at the “ex-gay” BS Papa’s reps are shoveling over in Poland, a country where half of the population believes homosexuality is a sin. It’s right out of the Exodus International playbook. (PageOneQ):

The Catholic Church has created rehabilitation centers in Poland to rehabilitate gay people and “get them back on the right path.”

The Odwaga Center uses therapy, prayer and chastity to teach its patients to resist their homosexual impulses. Men at the center are taught to play football and women are taught to cook.

When you want a candy for example, you can resist and have it later,” said Lena Wojdan, a psychologist at the center. “And you can trade it for a piece of chocolate.

Good grief, what polluted thinking. Watch the AFP report on it below the fold.


14 Responses to “The Catholic Church’s ex-gay ‘cure’ in Poland”  

  1. Faye

    I didn’t realize you could identify lesbians by their bad cooking.

    And here all this time, I apparently haven’t been driven to learn to cook by a desire to nourish my mate, I’ve been driven by a desire to nourish my MAN.

    Funny the things you learn about yourself…


  2. Denying who you are might adversely affect your mental health? Who’d a thunk it?


  3. deep6

    Wow. I thought But I’m a Cheerleader was fiction.


  4. Ben D.

    But….I like to cook, and never played football in my life, and I’m straight as an arrow. WTF?

    So much for the meme that Europe is more progressive than the United States.


  5. togolosh

    So much for the meme that Europe is more progressive than the United States.

    Bear in mind that the part of Europe that was behind the iron curtain missed out on all the big social reforms of the 60s, 70s, and 80s. The Communists were quite bigoted towards homosexuals in the USSR, and I imagine Poland was no different.


  6. Ben D.

    Togolosh, thats a good point. I didn’t know Commies were homophobic, one thinks they would be progressive in that area if for nothing else than to piss off the Church. I guess cultural habits die hard.


  7. calliopejane

    I can’t watch the video here at work, so maybe it would be clearer if I could, but I really don’t get the “candy” quote. Is same-sex attraction/gay sex supposed to be the candy? So then it’s okay to do it “later”? How much later does one have to wait? Is the “trading for chocolate” thing supposed to mean going for het sex instead? (I didn’t think heterosexuals were the ones labeled with epithets involving “fudge” but whatever). And isn’t chocolate a TYPE of candy? So how would one trade candy for chocolate?

    I’m so confused.


  8. Ben D.
    May 20, 2008 at 2:36 pm

    Togolosh, thats a good point. I didn’t know Commies were homophobic, one thinks they would be progressive in that area if for nothing else than to piss off the Church. I guess cultural habits die hard.

    As someone who finds Marxist economic, political, and social theory lucid and much superior to mainstream academic alternatives, I’ve always been distressed at the abysmal track record of actual revolutionary Marxist regimes in matters of sexuality and gender in general.

    The hell of it is, the early Bolshevik period in the USSR did–foster is too strong a word, but at least tolerate–some gender radicalism. Unforetunately I’m not aware of any such regimes anywhere that were ever even tolerant of gayness, let alone queer-positive.

    In Russia and Cuba I believe gayness was associated, officially, with bourgeois degeneracy.

    OTOH one of the key founders of the homosexual rights advocacy group in the USA, the Mattachine Society, was a member of the CP-USA. He felt gay liberation followed logically from revolutionary Marxism, and I of course agree.

    Unfortunately neither the CP-USA (and this was after Stalin’s death, in the late 1950s) nor the non-Communist Matchines agreed. He was forced out of both organizations.

    Policy towards GLBT people remains one of the wost features of Castro’s Cuba today.

    And I gather that Chavez in Venezuela is no friend of queer folk either, alas.


  9. But….I like to cook, and never played football in my life, and I’m straight as an arrow. WTF?

    Obviously, you avoided the wrong toys.


  10. Ben D.

    Phoenician, that was hilarious.

    The Michael Jackson doll is especially creepy given what we know about his pedophilia now.

    Much like this game I did in fact play as a child.


  11. Skwee

    I can’t watch the video here at work, so maybe it would be clearer if I could, but I really don’t get the “candy” quote. Is same-sex attraction/gay sex supposed to be the candy?

    The woman in the video seems to be using it as a metaphor for the program. She means a person can trade in his or her homosexuality (the candy) for heterosexuality (chocolate).


  12. Bitter Scribe

    Another dynamic is that in Poland and other former Communist countries, embracing the values of the Catholic Church was a form of rebellion. That’s why Poland was able to cram through a stringent anti-abortion law soon after Communism fell—it was a reaction to being under the Communist boot.


  13. but im a cheerleader is a parody but very much based on real right-wing wackyness
    http://www.queersunited.blogspot.com


  14. dr ngo

    You do realize, don’t you, that since this is Europe, the “football” referred to is soccer, not the Manly American Game (AKA “gridiron”)?

    No wonder the program doesn’t work.


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