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		<title>by: ceejay1968</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/14/7208/#comment-516634</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 00:19:43 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>These splits are terrible.

When John Kerry endorsed Obama, the nastiness on his blog was incredible.  Some Hillary people were so angry - did they not remember his &quot;botched joke&quot; incident and how Hillary joined the Republican chorus in demanding that Kerry apologize?   I can't imagine what they really expected as far as an endorsement.

I gather that many Hillary supporters no longer have much use for Keith Olbermann (I saw one video that showed him speaking and there was a graphic that said, &quot;Actor pretending to be Edward R. Murrow.&quot;).  It's such a shame.  For so long, he was the only media figure speaking truth to power.  He has said he loves and admires the Clintons, but has been unhappy with the Clinton campaign's tactics.  

I hate to see the left split like this.  People and groups will endorse - but we remain on the same side, right??

Aspirin?  I'm going for a Xanax!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>These splits are terrible.</p>
	<p>When John Kerry endorsed Obama, the nastiness on his blog was incredible.  Some Hillary people were so angry - did they not remember his &#8220;botched joke&#8221; incident and how Hillary joined the Republican chorus in demanding that Kerry apologize?   I can&#8217;t imagine what they really expected as far as an endorsement.</p>
	<p>I gather that many Hillary supporters no longer have much use for Keith Olbermann (I saw one video that showed him speaking and there was a graphic that said, &#8220;Actor pretending to be Edward R. Murrow.&#8221;).  It&#8217;s such a shame.  For so long, he was the only media figure speaking truth to power.  He has said he loves and admires the Clintons, but has been unhappy with the Clinton campaign&#8217;s tactics.  </p>
	<p>I hate to see the left split like this.  People and groups will endorse - but we remain on the same side, right??</p>
	<p>Aspirin?  I&#8217;m going for a Xanax!
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		<title>by: ceejay1968</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/14/7208/#comment-516633</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 00:18:07 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>These splits are terrible.

When John Kerry endorsed Obama, the nastiness on his blog was incredible.  Some Hillary people were so angry - did they not remember his &quot;botched joke&quot; incident and how Hillary joined the Republican chorus in demanding that Kerry apologize?   I can't imagine what they really expected as far as an endorsement.

I gather that many Hillary supporters no longer have much use for Keith Olbermann (I saw one video that showed him speaking and there was a graphic that said, &quot;Actor pretending to be Edward R. Murrow.&quot;).  It's such a shame.  For so long, he was the only media figure speaking truth to power.  He has said he loves and admires the Clintons, but has been unhappy with the Clinton campaign's tactics.  

I hate to see the left split like this.  People and groups will endorse - but we remain on the same side, right??

Aspirin?  I'm going for a Xanax!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>These splits are terrible.</p>
	<p>When John Kerry endorsed Obama, the nastiness on his blog was incredible.  Some Hillary people were so angry - did they not remember his &#8220;botched joke&#8221; incident and how Hillary joined the Republican chorus in demanding that Kerry apologize?   I can&#8217;t imagine what they really expected as far as an endorsement.</p>
	<p>I gather that many Hillary supporters no longer have much use for Keith Olbermann (I saw one video that showed him speaking and there was a graphic that said, &#8220;Actor pretending to be Edward R. Murrow.&#8221;).  It&#8217;s such a shame.  For so long, he was the only media figure speaking truth to power.  He has said he loves and admires the Clintons, but has been unhappy with the Clinton campaign&#8217;s tactics.  </p>
	<p>I hate to see the left split like this.  People and groups will endorse - but we remain on the same side, right??</p>
	<p>Aspirin?  I&#8217;m going for a Xanax!
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		<title>by: Hector B.</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/14/7208/#comment-516327</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 01:52:12 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/14/7208/#comment-516327</guid>
					<description>&lt;i&gt;There is no comparing her record on choice and Obama’s.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;

Probably true. Obama's had a 100% prochoice voting record since 1997. When did Hillary first get elected, 2000?

http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=9490&amp;amp;type=category&amp;amp;category=2&amp;amp;go.x=14&amp;amp;go.y=20&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>There is no comparing her record on choice and Obama’s.</i><i></p>
	<p>Probably true. Obama&#8217;s had a 100% prochoice voting record since 1997. When did Hillary first get elected, 2000?</p>
	<p><a href='http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=9490&amp;type=category&amp;category=2&amp;go.x=14&amp;go.y=20' rel='nofollow'>http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=9490&amp;type=category&amp;category=2&amp;go.x=14&amp;go.y=20</a></i>
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		<title>by: Diane</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/14/7208/#comment-516269</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 20:37:11 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>The problem, as I see it, is that NARAL didn't endorse Clinton ages ago when they should have. There is no comparing her record on choice and Obama's.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The problem, as I see it, is that NARAL didn&#8217;t endorse Clinton ages ago when they should have. There is no comparing her record on choice and Obama&#8217;s.
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		<title>by: squashed</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/14/7208/#comment-516223</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 18:46:41 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Hillary and crews are cheating in Oregon. (using extra money outside the law)

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/


Big Pro-Hillary Independent Group Will Spend Up To $500,000 On Ad In Oregon

The American Leadership Project -- the big pro-Hillary 527 put together by major Hillary-backing unions and major donors -- is buying $300,000-$500,000 worth of TV time in Oregon for a new ad touting Hillary's record on the economy, I'm told.

Tellingly, the spot -- unlike past ALP-sponsored ads, which attacked Obama -- will be uniformly positive, with no mention at all of Obama or even any implicit contrast between his and Hillary's economic record. The ad will begin running today.

ALP's decision to go positive at this late date is significant. It suggests that ALP -- one of the top independent groups backing Hillary -- may recognize that the contest is all but decided and that there's no percentage in attacking Obama, something that could damage him in advance of the general election. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hillary and crews are cheating in Oregon. (using extra money outside the law)</p>
	<p><a href='http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/' rel='nofollow'>http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/</a></p>
	<p>Big Pro-Hillary Independent Group Will Spend Up To $500,000 On Ad In Oregon</p>
	<p>The American Leadership Project &#8212; the big pro-Hillary 527 put together by major Hillary-backing unions and major donors &#8212; is buying $300,000-$500,000 worth of TV time in Oregon for a new ad touting Hillary&#8217;s record on the economy, I&#8217;m told.</p>
	<p>Tellingly, the spot &#8212; unlike past ALP-sponsored ads, which attacked Obama &#8212; will be uniformly positive, with no mention at all of Obama or even any implicit contrast between his and Hillary&#8217;s economic record. The ad will begin running today.</p>
	<p>ALP&#8217;s decision to go positive at this late date is significant. It suggests that ALP &#8212; one of the top independent groups backing Hillary &#8212; may recognize that the contest is all but decided and that there&#8217;s no percentage in attacking Obama, something that could damage him in advance of the general election.
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		<title>by: squashed</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/14/7208/#comment-516202</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 17:47:07 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>It's not over. I wouldn't pass Hillary to pull some major shenanigans.

my take: online, Hillary is only hold together by very few blog.

These are paid for blogs, with decreasing level of hardness to post. 

the leftalk
myDD
the confluence (it is possible to post, but with complicated method)



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It&#8217;s not over. I wouldn&#8217;t pass Hillary to pull some major shenanigans.</p>
	<p>my take: online, Hillary is only hold together by very few blog.</p>
	<p>These are paid for blogs, with decreasing level of hardness to post. </p>
	<p>the leftalk<br />
myDD<br />
the confluence (it is possible to post, but with complicated method)
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		<title>by: Mnemosyne</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/14/7208/#comment-516199</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 17:24:30 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This was not an intervention in the primary race at all. The primary race is, for all intents and purposes, over.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You know that.  I know that.  But given that there are still people insisting in the other thread that Hillary can still win if the Florida and Michigan delegates are seated, and given that Hillary has not conceded, the race is not in fact over.  So for NARAL to come out with this endorsement right now &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; an attempt to force Hillary's hand and it is picking sides in the Democratic primary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>This was not an intervention in the primary race at all. The primary race is, for all intents and purposes, over.</p></blockquote>
	<p>You know that.  I know that.  But given that there are still people insisting in the other thread that Hillary can still win if the Florida and Michigan delegates are seated, and given that Hillary has not conceded, the race is not in fact over.  So for NARAL to come out with this endorsement right now <i>is</i> an attempt to force Hillary&#8217;s hand and it is picking sides in the Democratic primary.
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		<title>by: Ben Alpers</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/14/7208/#comment-516181</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 16:14:18 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;This isn’t a decision by NARAL to support the male candidate over the female candidate. This is a decision by NARAL to support the DNC candidate over the DLC candidate. They listened to the DLC in 2006 and supported Lieberman over Lamont, and they got fucked over.&lt;/i&gt;

Actually, it's neither of these things.

It's a decision by NARAL to support the pro-choice Democratic nominee-to-be over the anti-choice Republican nominee-to-be.

This was not an intervention in the primary race at all. The primary race is, for all intents and purposes, over. NARAL's endorsement is more than anything else a recognition of that.  It is part of the beginning of the general election campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>This isn’t a decision by NARAL to support the male candidate over the female candidate. This is a decision by NARAL to support the DNC candidate over the DLC candidate. They listened to the DLC in 2006 and supported Lieberman over Lamont, and they got fucked over.</i></p>
	<p>Actually, it&#8217;s neither of these things.</p>
	<p>It&#8217;s a decision by NARAL to support the pro-choice Democratic nominee-to-be over the anti-choice Republican nominee-to-be.</p>
	<p>This was not an intervention in the primary race at all. The primary race is, for all intents and purposes, over. NARAL&#8217;s endorsement is more than anything else a recognition of that.  It is part of the beginning of the general election campaign.
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		<title>by: trishka</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/14/7208/#comment-516174</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 16:03:29 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/14/7208/#comment-516174</guid>
					<description>amanda, thank you for this post.  i too have been gobsmacked reading teh interwebs the last couple of days.  especially the &quot;i'll show obama!  i'll write in clinton's name in November&quot;.  like it isn't going to hurt us women more than it will hurt barack obama personally to have mccain in the white house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>amanda, thank you for this post.  i too have been gobsmacked reading teh interwebs the last couple of days.  especially the &#8220;i&#8217;ll show obama!  i&#8217;ll write in clinton&#8217;s name in November&#8221;.  like it isn&#8217;t going to hurt us women more than it will hurt barack obama personally to have mccain in the white house.
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		<title>by: The Opoponax</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/14/7208/#comment-516134</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 14:38:09 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>dingdingding.

Let's not forget, either, that the 50 state strategy also goes hand in hand with the realities of the reproductive justice movement.  Selling &quot;red&quot; states down the river in order to possibly have a chance to control certain aspects of the federal landscape is part of why abortion is de facto illegal in states like South Dakota and Oklahoma.  

The new DNC strategy seems to be focusing on organizing people at the state and local level -- since a majority of Americans are pro-choice, it stands to reason that engaging democrats at the grassroots level will help win back state legislative seats that are currently held by people who are conspiring to take away reproductive rights one little brick at a time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>dingdingding.</p>
	<p>Let&#8217;s not forget, either, that the 50 state strategy also goes hand in hand with the realities of the reproductive justice movement.  Selling &#8220;red&#8221; states down the river in order to possibly have a chance to control certain aspects of the federal landscape is part of why abortion is de facto illegal in states like South Dakota and Oklahoma.  </p>
	<p>The new DNC strategy seems to be focusing on organizing people at the state and local level &#8212; since a majority of Americans are pro-choice, it stands to reason that engaging democrats at the grassroots level will help win back state legislative seats that are currently held by people who are conspiring to take away reproductive rights one little brick at a time.
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