Let the dumb fuckers sue each other. Who cares.

Well, sure. The statistic can’t even tell if the previous program is working or not at that low number.

So this is obviously not about casual take on hard violence. But the bulk is ambiguous cases.

You can do
a. introduce standard practice of dating. (protocol, questions, legal standard)

b. prevent interaction altogether.

you haven’t given your take of the original number or what one should do to improve the situation realistically.

Propose something and post your idea. Whining and complaining are cheap.

I feel terribly bad for her, because it seems like she’s still suffering from very serious trauma resulting from her first miscarriage. She needs therapy, not more children. I make fun of the Duggars not because of any disagreement with wanting women to have the choice to determine when and with whom they have their children, but because her actions seem so clearly based on one of the many interpretations of Christianity that assert that women should not take responsibility for themselves or their lives - that God will provide all. And that’s just CRAZY. I also wonder how much real time parents can have with their other older children when they’re busy raising a new baby every year. What kind of 1:1 time do these kids get with their parents? Probably not much. I can’t imagine I’d feel too special amongst a crowd of brothers and sisters that large.
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UNH is my alma mater. The women at SHARPP (the Sexual Harassment and Rape Prevention Program) are very hardcore about rape education, or at least they were during my years there (1995 - 2000). There was a great group on campus when I was an undergrad, called “Men Stopping Rape”. It used to meet for an hour at noon once a week. I wonder if that’s still going on.

The trend years ago was that students were moving off campus, due to lack of housing and the increasingly harsh punishments for underage alcohol violations. Plus, I think the UNH frat scene is reemerging. Just a couple houses were responsible for a lot of shit that went down on frat row. For a while the university closed down some of those houses or revoked their charters. (I recall hearing about a serious prostitution and underage drinking incident, and another one where a guy I went to high school with got drunk and fell off the roof of his frat house and died.) These factors might have some affect on the university’s ability to reduce forcible sex or unwanted sexual contact.

Jesus H. Timberlake, are there really people this stupid in the world? Yeah, all it takes is saying “no” and the legal system will take care of everything. I’d laugh, but there’s too much bile in my throat.

There’s another angle, too, Leora, that I think has been missed. Another reason to consider the Duggars, and other “Quiverfull” families a problem. It is that, by naming their movement “Quiverfull”, they seem to be suggesting that their children are intended as missiles, to be launched at the rest of us if and when necessary.

And have high definition recording device to cover your ass.

You know, I’m pretty sure THAT’S going to require affirmative consent as well.

Sure, plenty of folks will think to ask “Hey, I’m going to videotape us making out, ok?” but WON’T think to ask, “Do you want to have sex?”

Show up in court with a surreptitiously recorded audio/video tape at your rape defense trial? Yeah, that’ll go over well.

In order for a woman to have sex with a man, consensual or not, he must have an erection.

Anus, meet Strap-on. Strap-on, Anus.

You know, in any scenario, I’m not really following how the arousal matters in the slightest.

In order for a woman to have sex with a man, consensual or not, he must have an erection.

The reason arousal is important in the other hypothetical is to create a situation where the sex would be non-consensual, but not physically traumatic. (Emotionally and psychologically, that’s another story) It is necessary to make the two hypotheticals as equivalent as possible.

Wayward, I can’t speak for Amanda but I think your scenarios are rape.

In some states, yes, in others, no, in others, they are for the man, but not the woman.