Comments on: On The Fringe interview http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/05/on-the-fringe-interview/ Just another WordPress weblog Wed, 09 Dec 2009 06:00:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: Amanda Marcotte http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/05/on-the-fringe-interview/#comment-513596 Mon, 05 May 2008 20:38:46 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/05/on-the-fringe-interview/#comment-513596 Well, and it assumes that they can't read or listen. Other people are out there talking about sex, and you can't but help but know what you're missing listening to others talk about what you don't have. Well, and it assumes that they can’t read or listen. Other people are out there talking about sex, and you can’t but help but know what you’re missing listening to others talk about what you don’t have.

]]> by: Jonathan Hohensee http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/05/on-the-fringe-interview/#comment-513579 Mon, 05 May 2008 18:55:57 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/05/05/on-the-fringe-interview/#comment-513579 <i> He said he wanted to wait until marriage for Jesus. But what if it was just because he knows you won’t buy the cow when you find out the milk isn’t so good?</i> I kind of like the glaring irony of that situation in comparison to some of the conservapedia's "benefits of abstinence" http://www.conservapedia.com/Abstinence Benefits of Abstinence: * Clear conscience with God. * Peace of mind in your life and future relationships, and marriage. * More self-respect and more respect for each others and respected by other people. * Always remember, in a healthy relationship, respect precedes love. and premarital sex only throws away your self respect and your partner's. * You enter marriage with a more positive outlook and without carrying emotional baggage. * Personal freedom for both of you and your (future) marriage partner. *Significantly better chance in having more satisfying and more stable marriage. * Longer lasting relationship. Premarital sex surprisingly breaks up more dating couples than any other factor. <b>* No comparing or being compared sexually in marriage. It also means "being free to enjoy maximum sex, maximum leisure, maximum satisfaction, and maximum liberty, in the way God intended" that is in the covenant of marriage.</b> * No worries about pregnancy and STDs. * Less worries about bad reputation. * It's a fact[5] that persons and couples who have premarital sex are more likely to have extramarital affairs as well. <b>* Premarital sex often fools a person into marrying someone who really isn't right for them.</b> * You don't have to put yourself under someone else's mercy not to reject you. It's still a fact, that the more "experienced" guys and girls are generally less desirable and less respected as dating or marriage partners. * Realize there is a 98 percent chance you will never marry the person you date in high school, so it is always better to keep yourself pure for the right person, that is your future wife or husband. [6] To take a magical trip to an alternate universe where abstinence-only is actually something worth debating, the first bolded bullet point doesn't actually help the problem with incompatible sex partners, it just shifts the person's perception from believing that their partner is a lousy lay to believing that ALL of sex is a miserable experience. He said he wanted to wait until marriage for Jesus. But what if it was just because he knows you won’t buy the cow when you find out the milk isn’t so good?

I kind of like the glaring irony of that situation in comparison to some of the conservapedia’s “benefits of abstinence”
http://www.conservapedia.com/Abstinence

Benefits of Abstinence:
* Clear conscience with God.
* Peace of mind in your life and future relationships, and marriage.
* More self-respect and more respect for each others and respected by
other people.
* Always remember, in a healthy relationship, respect precedes love.
and premarital sex only throws away your self respect and your
partner’s.
* You enter marriage with a more positive outlook and without
carrying emotional baggage.
* Personal freedom for both of you and your (future) marriage
partner.
*Significantly better chance in having more satisfying and more stable
marriage.
* Longer lasting relationship. Premarital sex surprisingly breaks up
more dating couples than any other factor.
* No comparing or being compared sexually in marriage. It also
means “being free to enjoy maximum sex, maximum leisure,
maximum satisfaction, and maximum liberty, in the way God
intended” that is in the covenant of marriage.
* No worries about pregnancy and STDs.
* Less worries about bad reputation.
* It’s a fact[5] that persons and couples who have premarital sex are
more likely to have extramarital affairs as well.
* Premarital sex often fools a person into marrying someone who
really isn’t right for them.
* You don’t have to put yourself under someone else’s mercy not to
reject you. It’s still a fact, that the more “experienced” guys and girls
are generally less desirable and less respected as dating or marriage
partners.
* Realize there is a 98 percent chance you will never marry the person
you date in high school, so it is always better to keep yourself pure
for the right person, that is your future wife or husband. [6]

To take a magical trip to an alternate universe where abstinence-only is actually something worth debating, the first bolded bullet point doesn’t actually help the problem with incompatible sex partners, it just shifts the person’s perception from believing that their partner is a lousy lay to believing that ALL of sex is a miserable experience.

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