“Democracy” is a concept from pre-9/11 America v1.0.

In the new America v2.0, it’s the rule of the strong over the weak. And how sneaky, manipulative, and how much your message diverges from your actions determine your “fitness” for office.

We’re basically turning into Spartans/Klingons/Soviet-Russians with healthy doses of 1984 and The Handmaid’s Tale thrown in for good measure…

Result: Pretty much zero distance and everyone is behind backing this racist attack on Obama and everyone standing around acting all concerned at the ‘attack’ while covertly pushing the ‘he’s scary because he’s a black man’ meme. Not unlike Tonya Harding and the battered knee incident…

The media are the GOP’s Tonya Harding…

Good lord, you people are pathetic. Someone donates money to Hillary Clinton’s campaign, and by virtue of that, and Hillary’s political savvy, she is suddenly behind a devious, nationally planned, illegal movement to deprive voters of their rights? Proof, please. Proof. Not b.s. speculation and “she’s so horrible she WOULD do this, so I bet she did!”

Get a grip. And use your brilliant minds for something other than bending and twisting all over yourselves to make Hillary Clinton the most evil candidate ever.

Do you actually read what you’re posting?

I’ve donated money to campaigns. Are those candidates responsible if I go around ripping other candidates’ signs out of the ground or sending out misleading mailers about the other candidate?

It all depends on distance.

How would this be unlike the racist ad by the North Carolina GOP? McCain says ‘I’m shocked’ calling attention to it, the NC GOP says ‘it’s not about him (wink wink)’ the national GOP fellating media dutifully airs said racist attack ad on the major networks. Result: Pretty much zero distance and everyone is behind backing this racist attack on Obama.

Underhanded? Yes. Nasty? Yes. Cowardly? Hell yes. Brazen? Hell yes.

Hillary realizes that the only way that she can win (and Bush before her, ironically) is to ‘control’ the vote. Very unamerican and fascistic but, well in this corporate dominated time that we are in, it’s not only tolerated but actively supported…

It did happen here and it’s probably too late to recover from it. Something has to break the mainstream media fellating to those in the Bush wing of the republican party and to a lesser extent, Hillary…

ooops… (flap, controversy, whopper)

And I must say that Pandagon describes the call deceptively. It’s a call alerting people to the fact they have a voter registration card coming in the mail they should fill out and vote that is not the same as saying they have to wait for it before they can vote.

Given that WVWV promised back in February to change the way they were doing the calls and did not, are you still willing to give them the full benefit of the doubt? Not to mention the investigations by 10 other attorneys general into their election practices. This isn’t about one series of calls in one state — they’ve done this repeatedly in multiple states despite multiple warnings from attorneys general and haven’t changed the way they’re operating. That’s suspicious, to say the least.

Again, I don’t care if Hillary is personally giving them the money to do this or not. I just care that a Democratic-identified organization is using racially-based voter suppression tactics, which is about the lowest thing you can do in an election short of physically barring the doors.

Similarly here we have two mutually hostile factions inside the Democratic Party. This looks suspiciously like an idiotic ally of the Clintons doing something idiotic and threatening to start WW III inside the party, thus electing John McCain.

That’s my suspicion. George W. Bush didn’t give one thin dime to the Swiftboaters, but does anyone really doubt that they were trying to get him elected?

It may well be that Clinton has no connection to this group. That doesn’t mean that they’re not working to get her elected, even if it takes dirty tricks to do it.

Certainly, if Obama gets the nomination, he will benefit from WVWV doing turnout and registration.

And I must say that Pandagon describes the call deceptively. It’s a call alerting people to the fact they have a voter registration card coming in the mail they should fill out and vote that is not the same as saying they have to wait for it before they can vote.

Moreover, @ a cost of 0.090 per call if performed by the usual marketing group, they would have ordered a call list of UNREGISTERED voters, that some may have registered inbetween their request and the call is unfortanate, but they are not making this calls to voters -but to unregistered single women - a demographic seriously underrespresented.

Her campaign manager was on the Leadership Team as late as July 8, 2007, according to the Center for Media and Democracy’s SourceWatch.

Kind of a major difference between “campaign manager participating on leadership team during earlier campaigns with legal problems” and “small donation”, doncha think?

Not that you’ll listen, but insinuating that Hillary supporters are fat is well over the line for a variety of reasons.