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		<title>by: pinkyleftbrain</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/29/i-cant-completely-hate-the-rolling-stone/#comment-513125</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 12:30:08 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>*sigh*

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	<p>Sorry&#8230;
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		<title>by: pinkyleftbrain</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/29/i-cant-completely-hate-the-rolling-stone/#comment-513092</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 10:14:39 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/29/i-cant-completely-hate-the-rolling-stone/#comment-513092</guid>
					<description>I was a member of a fundamentalist church in Michigan (East Bay Calvary Church in Traverse City Michigan) and have never, ever met a group of people with such burning hatred and self-righteousness than they were.

The 'pastor' at the time was a grade-a prick. He gave me the willies when he looked at me. And he liked to look at the young girls...

He hated movies. He hated John Denver (for being a druggie 'Rocky Mountain High' indeed). He hated me for pointing out that he was so full of shit as to burst.

Children were 'programmed' to spout bible verses at random. Children were programmed to know the books of the bible, frontwards and backwards. They were given prises if they could start at a random chosen book and either go forward or backward from there.

They spent so much time learning about the bible that they didn't actually learn the bible. Treat others, etc...

I remember one of the Hill daughters actually going out of her way to block my car at the local grocery store. God but she hated me...

That experience alone worked a great deal to turn me away from their god. And god that would support that kind of hatred wouldn't blink an eye at one of them killing me or beating me to a pulp.

One other thing. The Hills lived on an old dirt road next to a field that had a major trail through it that crossed the road. I used that trail at one time to get back and forth to a summer job. Well, the Hill's decided to string a stretch of barbed wire across the trail. Thank god it wasn't attached or it would have done a lot more damage than it did.

Spiteful, hateful, negative and 'kissed by the all mighty. Never has a more toxic soup been concocted... That 'church' still exists, BTW... They even have a web site: http://www.eastbaycalvary.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I was a member of a fundamentalist church in Michigan (East Bay Calvary Church in Traverse City Michigan) and have never, ever met a group of people with such burning hatred and self-righteousness than they were.</p>
	<p>The &#8216;pastor&#8217; at the time was a grade-a prick. He gave me the willies when he looked at me. And he liked to look at the young girls&#8230;</p>
	<p>He hated movies. He hated John Denver (for being a druggie &#8216;Rocky Mountain High&#8217; indeed). He hated me for pointing out that he was so full of shit as to burst.</p>
	<p>Children were &#8216;programmed&#8217; to spout bible verses at random. Children were programmed to know the books of the bible, frontwards and backwards. They were given prises if they could start at a random chosen book and either go forward or backward from there.</p>
	<p>They spent so much time learning about the bible that they didn&#8217;t actually learn the bible. Treat others, etc&#8230;</p>
	<p>I remember one of the Hill daughters actually going out of her way to block my car at the local grocery store. God but she hated me&#8230;</p>
	<p>That experience alone worked a great deal to turn me away from their god. And god that would support that kind of hatred wouldn&#8217;t blink an eye at one of them killing me or beating me to a pulp.</p>
	<p>One other thing. The Hills lived on an old dirt road next to a field that had a major trail through it that crossed the road. I used that trail at one time to get back and forth to a summer job. Well, the Hill&#8217;s decided to string a stretch of barbed wire across the trail. Thank god it wasn&#8217;t attached or it would have done a lot more damage than it did.</p>
	<p>Spiteful, hateful, negative and &#8216;kissed by the all mighty. Never has a more toxic soup been concocted&#8230; That &#8216;church&#8217; still exists, BTW&#8230; They even have a web site: <a href='http://www.eastbaycalvary.org/' rel='nofollow'>http://www.eastbaycalvary.org/</a>
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		<title>by: pinkyleftbrain</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/29/i-cant-completely-hate-the-rolling-stone/#comment-513076</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 08:40:37 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/29/i-cant-completely-hate-the-rolling-stone/#comment-513076</guid>
					<description>I was a member of a fundamentalist church in Michigan (East Bay Calvary Church in Traverse City Michigan) and have never, ever met a group of people with such burning hatred and self-righteousness than they were.

The 'pastor' at the time was a grade-a prick. He gave me the willies when he looked at me. And he liked to look at the young girls...

He hated movies. He hated John Denver (for being a druggie 'Rocky Mountain High' indeed). He hated me for pointing out that he was so full of shit as to burst.

Children were 'programmed' to spout bible verses at random. Children were programmed to know the books of the bible, frontwards and backwards. They were given prises if they could start at a random chosen book and either go forward or backward from there.

They spent so much time learning about the bible that they didn't actually learn the bible. Treat others, etc...

I remember one of the Hill daughters actually going out of her way to block my car at the local grocery store. God but she hated me...

That experience alone worked a great deal to turn me away from their god. And god that would support that kind of hatred wouldn't blink an eye at one of them killing me or beating me to a pulp.

One other thing. The Hills lived on an old dirt road next to a field that had a major trail through it that crossed the road. I used that trail at one time to get back and forth to a summer job. Well, the Hill's decided to string a stretch of barbed wire across the trail. Thank god it wasn't attached or it would have done a lot more damage than it did.

Spiteful, hateful, negative and 'kissed by the all mighty. Never has a more toxic soup been concocted... That 'church' still exists, BTW... They even have a web site: http://www.eastbaycalvary.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I was a member of a fundamentalist church in Michigan (East Bay Calvary Church in Traverse City Michigan) and have never, ever met a group of people with such burning hatred and self-righteousness than they were.</p>
	<p>The &#8216;pastor&#8217; at the time was a grade-a prick. He gave me the willies when he looked at me. And he liked to look at the young girls&#8230;</p>
	<p>He hated movies. He hated John Denver (for being a druggie &#8216;Rocky Mountain High&#8217; indeed). He hated me for pointing out that he was so full of shit as to burst.</p>
	<p>Children were &#8216;programmed&#8217; to spout bible verses at random. Children were programmed to know the books of the bible, frontwards and backwards. They were given prises if they could start at a random chosen book and either go forward or backward from there.</p>
	<p>They spent so much time learning about the bible that they didn&#8217;t actually learn the bible. Treat others, etc&#8230;</p>
	<p>I remember one of the Hill daughters actually going out of her way to block my car at the local grocery store. God but she hated me&#8230;</p>
	<p>That experience alone worked a great deal to turn me away from their god. And god that would support that kind of hatred wouldn&#8217;t blink an eye at one of them killing me or beating me to a pulp.</p>
	<p>One other thing. The Hills lived on an old dirt road next to a field that had a major trail through it that crossed the road. I used that trail at one time to get back and forth to a summer job. Well, the Hill&#8217;s decided to string a stretch of barbed wire across the trail. Thank god it wasn&#8217;t attached or it would have done a lot more damage than it did.</p>
	<p>Spiteful, hateful, negative and &#8216;kissed by the all mighty. Never has a more toxic soup been concocted&#8230; That &#8216;church&#8217; still exists, BTW&#8230; They even have a web site: <a href='http://www.eastbaycalvary.org/' rel='nofollow'>http://www.eastbaycalvary.org/</a>
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		<title>by: pinkyleftbrain</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/29/i-cant-completely-hate-the-rolling-stone/#comment-513075</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 08:39:33 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>I was a member of a fundamentalist church in Michigan (East Bay Calvary Church in Traverse City Michigan) and have never, ever met a group of people with such burning hatred and self-righteousness than they were.

The 'pastor' at the time was a grade-a prick. He gave me the willies when he looked at me. And he liked to look at the young girls...

He hated movies. He hated John Denver (for being a druggie 'Rocky Mountain High' indeed). He hated me for pointing out that he was so full of shit as to burst.

Children were 'programmed' to spout bible verses at random. Children were programmed to know the books of the bible, frontwards and backwards. They were given prises if they could start at a random chosen book and either go forward or backward from there.

They spent so much time learning about the bible that they didn't actually learn the bible. Treat others, etc...

I remember one of the Hill daughters actually going out of her way to block my car at the local grocery store. God but she hated me...

That experience alone worked a great deal to turn me away from their god. And god that would support that kind of hatred wouldn't blink an eye at one of them killing me or beating me to a pulp.

One other thing. The Hills lived on an old dirt road next to a field that had a major trail through it that crossed the road. I used that trail at one time to get back and forth to a summer job. Well, the Hill's decided to string a stretch of barbed wire across the trail. Thank god it wasn't attached or it would have done a lot more damage than it did.

Spiteful, hateful, negative and 'kissed by the all mighty. Never has a more toxic soup been concocted... That 'church' still exists, BTW... They even have a web site: http://www.eastbaycalvary.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I was a member of a fundamentalist church in Michigan (East Bay Calvary Church in Traverse City Michigan) and have never, ever met a group of people with such burning hatred and self-righteousness than they were.</p>
	<p>The &#8216;pastor&#8217; at the time was a grade-a prick. He gave me the willies when he looked at me. And he liked to look at the young girls&#8230;</p>
	<p>He hated movies. He hated John Denver (for being a druggie &#8216;Rocky Mountain High&#8217; indeed). He hated me for pointing out that he was so full of shit as to burst.</p>
	<p>Children were &#8216;programmed&#8217; to spout bible verses at random. Children were programmed to know the books of the bible, frontwards and backwards. They were given prises if they could start at a random chosen book and either go forward or backward from there.</p>
	<p>They spent so much time learning about the bible that they didn&#8217;t actually learn the bible. Treat others, etc&#8230;</p>
	<p>I remember one of the Hill daughters actually going out of her way to block my car at the local grocery store. God but she hated me&#8230;</p>
	<p>That experience alone worked a great deal to turn me away from their god. And god that would support that kind of hatred wouldn&#8217;t blink an eye at one of them killing me or beating me to a pulp.</p>
	<p>One other thing. The Hills lived on an old dirt road next to a field that had a major trail through it that crossed the road. I used that trail at one time to get back and forth to a summer job. Well, the Hill&#8217;s decided to string a stretch of barbed wire across the trail. Thank god it wasn&#8217;t attached or it would have done a lot more damage than it did.</p>
	<p>Spiteful, hateful, negative and &#8216;kissed by the all mighty. Never has a more toxic soup been concocted&#8230; That &#8216;church&#8217; still exists, BTW&#8230; They even have a web site: <a href='http://www.eastbaycalvary.org/' rel='nofollow'>http://www.eastbaycalvary.org/</a>
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		<title>by: jdavis</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/29/i-cant-completely-hate-the-rolling-stone/#comment-512933</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 14:22:16 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/29/i-cant-completely-hate-the-rolling-stone/#comment-512933</guid>
					<description>Deanna, I'm sorry but you're reading way too much into this. Sometimes being descriptive requires one to appear insensitive of people's feelings - on the flip-side, the article isn't dismissive of them either. It simply points out absurdity - one absurdity being that such people will put whatever kind of crap into their mouth only to puke it out a few days later. Where you get misogyny from I don't know; it seems he's making fun of everyone in this, including the uber-military life coach. Seems rather anti-guy if you ask me. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Deanna, I&#8217;m sorry but you&#8217;re reading way too much into this. Sometimes being descriptive requires one to appear insensitive of people&#8217;s feelings - on the flip-side, the article isn&#8217;t dismissive of them either. It simply points out absurdity - one absurdity being that such people will put whatever kind of crap into their mouth only to puke it out a few days later. Where you get misogyny from I don&#8217;t know; it seems he&#8217;s making fun of everyone in this, including the uber-military life coach. Seems rather anti-guy if you ask me.
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		<title>by: Tom</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/29/i-cant-completely-hate-the-rolling-stone/#comment-512711</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:02:28 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;From comparing the preacher talking to the crowd about their wounds to Tony Robbins talking to upper east side women about their wounds (he actually indicates that those women’s worst problems would be their husband taking away their Saks card)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You really need to watch &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bravotv.com/Real_Housewives_NYC/season/1/index.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Real Housewives of NYC&lt;/a&gt; if you don't think that statement is acccurate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>From comparing the preacher talking to the crowd about their wounds to Tony Robbins talking to upper east side women about their wounds (he actually indicates that those women’s worst problems would be their husband taking away their Saks card)</p></blockquote>
	<p>You really need to watch <a href="http://www.bravotv.com/Real_Housewives_NYC/season/1/index.php" rel="nofollow">Real Housewives of NYC</a> if you don&#8217;t think that statement is acccurate.
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		<title>by: deanna</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/29/i-cant-completely-hate-the-rolling-stone/#comment-512658</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:46:25 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;“What’s misogynist about Taibbi?”&lt;/i&gt;

In this article alone, he mocks women multiple times - almost every time he wants to make fun of the preacher's content or impact on the crowd. From comparing the preacher talking to the crowd about their wounds to Tony Robbins talking to upper east side women about their wounds (he actually indicates that those women's worst problems would be their husband taking away their Saks card) to comparing the preacher's stage emotion to menopausal housewives, to mocking an overweight woman (her bag smelled and looked like a sack of cheeseburgers) while fat men had bellies like bulls and something to be proud of, Taibbi certainly comes of as misogynist to me. 

Note that this is the only writing of his I've read, but I imagine that if using analogies that mock women to bring the humour is his standard modus operandi, then there really is no question. He is a misogynist.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>“What’s misogynist about Taibbi?”</i></p>
	<p>In this article alone, he mocks women multiple times - almost every time he wants to make fun of the preacher&#8217;s content or impact on the crowd. From comparing the preacher talking to the crowd about their wounds to Tony Robbins talking to upper east side women about their wounds (he actually indicates that those women&#8217;s worst problems would be their husband taking away their Saks card) to comparing the preacher&#8217;s stage emotion to menopausal housewives, to mocking an overweight woman (her bag smelled and looked like a sack of cheeseburgers) while fat men had bellies like bulls and something to be proud of, Taibbi certainly comes of as misogynist to me. </p>
	<p>Note that this is the only writing of his I&#8217;ve read, but I imagine that if using analogies that mock women to bring the humour is his standard modus operandi, then there really is no question. He is a misogynist.
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		<title>by: Hippie Killer</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/29/i-cant-completely-hate-the-rolling-stone/#comment-512650</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:10:49 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Accusing a Rolling Stone writer of trying to be Hunter S. Thompson is almost as cliched as trying to be Hunter S. Thompson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Accusing a Rolling Stone writer of trying to be Hunter S. Thompson is almost as cliched as trying to be Hunter S. Thompson.
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		<title>by: Jones</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/29/i-cant-completely-hate-the-rolling-stone/#comment-512649</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:04:32 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;What’s misogynist about Taibbi?&quot;

I don't know what he's up to these days, but his book about his time in Moscow fairly drips with misogyny, if I remember correctly. To be completely fair, I think his co-author did more of the crowing about having sex with 14 year old girls. But I'm pretty sure they were both pretty psyched about sexually harassing their secretary (who liked, of course!). </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;What’s misogynist about Taibbi?&#8221;</p>
	<p>I don&#8217;t know what he&#8217;s up to these days, but his book about his time in Moscow fairly drips with misogyny, if I remember correctly. To be completely fair, I think his co-author did more of the crowing about having sex with 14 year old girls. But I&#8217;m pretty sure they were both pretty psyched about sexually harassing their secretary (who liked, of course!).
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		<title>by: eric</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/29/i-cant-completely-hate-the-rolling-stone/#comment-512629</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:11:28 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>See, here's my problem with his article.
I grew up in a church like this.  We had &quot;Spirit blankets&quot; which were used to keep a lady &quot;Decent&quot; when she passed up from the holy spirit so evildoers wouldn't see up into their lady business when they were on the floor.
We had routine services that got so rowdy or devolved into Jericho marches (you can probably imagine what that is).
This idea of militant Christianity was drilled into me. I guess the problem is that, while I think it's laughable, his article comes off as mocking.  Mocking them only reinforces them.  And it mostly just makes me sad because this infiltration is another little pebble they'll use against the evils of our media leading us down the path to Armageddon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>See, here&#8217;s my problem with his article.<br />
I grew up in a church like this.  We had &#8220;Spirit blankets&#8221; which were used to keep a lady &#8220;Decent&#8221; when she passed up from the holy spirit so evildoers wouldn&#8217;t see up into their lady business when they were on the floor.<br />
We had routine services that got so rowdy or devolved into Jericho marches (you can probably imagine what that is).<br />
This idea of militant Christianity was drilled into me. I guess the problem is that, while I think it&#8217;s laughable, his article comes off as mocking.  Mocking them only reinforces them.  And it mostly just makes me sad because this infiltration is another little pebble they&#8217;ll use against the evils of our media leading us down the path to Armageddon.
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