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		<title>by: squashed</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/24/hope-the-pie-was-imported/#comment-511105</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:49:54 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Violence is the exertion of physical force so as to injure or abuse. The word is used broadly to describe the destructive action of natural phenomena like storms and earthquakes. More frequently the word describes forceful human destruction of property or injury to persons, usually intentional, and forceful verbal and emotional abuse that harms others. Johan Galtung defines violence as &quot;avoidable insult to basic human needs&quot;: survival, well being, identity, and freedom.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence

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definition is quite broad, and unfortunately you are not in position to define it. It's solely in state/status quo hand to define what constitute violence.

torture -- is not violence/ justified state necessity
throwing pie -- violence/ poor momma's boy gotta collect engagement fee.

anyway, the point if because of continuous pie-ing, the cost of bringing Friedman to campus becomes astronomically unreachable. In my book. It's an absolute win far anti war cause. 

The most elegant solution is of course, playing the inconsistencies in laws, and imperfection of the system to take them out of the talking circuit.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Violence is the exertion of physical force so as to injure or abuse. The word is used broadly to describe the destructive action of natural phenomena like storms and earthquakes. More frequently the word describes forceful human destruction of property or injury to persons, usually intentional, and forceful verbal and emotional abuse that harms others. Johan Galtung defines violence as &#8220;avoidable insult to basic human needs&#8221;: survival, well being, identity, and freedom.</p>
	<p><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence' rel='nofollow'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence</a></p>
	<p>&#8212;</p>
	<p>definition is quite broad, and unfortunately you are not in position to define it. It&#8217;s solely in state/status quo hand to define what constitute violence.</p>
	<p>torture &#8212; is not violence/ justified state necessity<br />
throwing pie &#8212; violence/ poor momma&#8217;s boy gotta collect engagement fee.</p>
	<p>anyway, the point if because of continuous pie-ing, the cost of bringing Friedman to campus becomes astronomically unreachable. In my book. It&#8217;s an absolute win far anti war cause. </p>
	<p>The most elegant solution is of course, playing the inconsistencies in laws, and imperfection of the system to take them out of the talking circuit.
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		<title>by: BlackBloc</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/24/hope-the-pie-was-imported/#comment-511102</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:37:16 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Otherwise, Union wouldn’t be able to bring down an industry just by walking out.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah but we were talking about violence, and violence by nature can only be done against persons, or at the very least a living being. &quot;Violence against institutions&quot; is just weasel words used as a way to abstract that out. Oh, I'm not really throwing a brick at Mark B. the policeman, I'm attacking the *institution* of police? Nah. If I believe in the necessity (or at least, inevitability) of political violence, I neither celebrate it nor wish to minimize its impact through theoretical delusions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>Otherwise, Union wouldn’t be able to bring down an industry just by walking out.
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	<p>Yeah but we were talking about violence, and violence by nature can only be done against persons, or at the very least a living being. &#8220;Violence against institutions&#8221; is just weasel words used as a way to abstract that out. Oh, I&#8217;m not really throwing a brick at Mark B. the policeman, I&#8217;m attacking the *institution* of police? Nah. If I believe in the necessity (or at least, inevitability) of political violence, I neither celebrate it nor wish to minimize its impact through theoretical delusions.
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		<title>by: More Pie</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/24/hope-the-pie-was-imported/#comment-511082</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:51:25 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/24/hope-the-pie-was-imported/#comment-511082</guid>
					<description>...

We, in the ages lying
In the buried past of the earth,
Built Nineveh with our sighing,
And Babel itself with our mirth;
And o'erthrew them with prophesying
To the old of the new world's worth;
For each age is a dream that is dying,
Or one that is coming to birth.

- Arthur O'Shaughnessy. </description>
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	<p>We, in the ages lying<br />
In the buried past of the earth,<br />
Built Nineveh with our sighing,<br />
And Babel itself with our mirth;<br />
And o&#8217;erthrew them with prophesying<br />
To the old of the new world&#8217;s worth;<br />
For each age is a dream that is dying,<br />
Or one that is coming to birth.</p>
	<p>- Arthur O&#8217;Shaughnessy.
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		<title>by: squashed</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/24/hope-the-pie-was-imported/#comment-511063</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:58:50 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/24/hope-the-pie-was-imported/#comment-511063</guid>
					<description>yeah, the &quot;la la la, I can't hear you&quot; argument works too.

... and MORE PIE !

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>yeah, the &#8220;la la la, I can&#8217;t hear you&#8221; argument works too.</p>
	<p>&#8230; and MORE PIE !
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		<title>by: Lurker 2.0</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/24/hope-the-pie-was-imported/#comment-511057</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:32:08 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/24/hope-the-pie-was-imported/#comment-511057</guid>
					<description> I appreciate your words, Grammar RWA. Personally, I'm writing off Squashed off as someone not worth my time. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I appreciate your words, Grammar RWA. Personally, I&#8217;m writing off Squashed off as someone not worth my time.
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		<title>by: squashed</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/24/hope-the-pie-was-imported/#comment-511050</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:09:15 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/24/hope-the-pie-was-imported/#comment-511050</guid>
					<description>Future DA of AMERICA playing tennis and lost..

YOU ASSAULTED me...YOU ASSAULTED ME!!@!!

Mommmyyyyyyy.....!!!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Future DA of AMERICA playing tennis and lost..</p>
	<p>YOU ASSAULTED me&#8230;YOU ASSAULTED ME!!@!!</p>
	<p>Mommmyyyyyyy&#8230;..!!!
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		<title>by: squashed</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/24/hope-the-pie-was-imported/#comment-511049</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:04:34 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/24/hope-the-pie-was-imported/#comment-511049</guid>
					<description>Institution consists of more than just people. There are ways. Otherwise, Union wouldn't be able to bring down an industry just by walking out.

But anyway, violence in general, IMO, is just lazy thinking. It's no fun. It's reserved for neocon idiots who advocates war for everything.

I for one advocate more PIE for everything, from now on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Institution consists of more than just people. There are ways. Otherwise, Union wouldn&#8217;t be able to bring down an industry just by walking out.</p>
	<p>But anyway, violence in general, IMO, is just lazy thinking. It&#8217;s no fun. It&#8217;s reserved for neocon idiots who advocates war for everything.</p>
	<p>I for one advocate more PIE for everything, from now on.
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		<title>by: labyrus</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/24/hope-the-pie-was-imported/#comment-511048</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:03:18 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/24/hope-the-pie-was-imported/#comment-511048</guid>
					<description>Bionic Baking Brigade 4 life</description>
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		<title>by: BlackBloc</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/24/hope-the-pie-was-imported/#comment-511046</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:58:54 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/24/hope-the-pie-was-imported/#comment-511046</guid>
					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Anyways, as Bakunin said, violence should be directed at the institutions of the state not the people who maintain them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It makes for nice writing but it's sort of a cop out. Institutions are not just made of material infrastructure, they're made of people too. Maybe it might assuage your conscience to think of it as violence against an abstract 'institution', but I'd rather be fully aware of what I'm doing. Violence against institutions is by nature going to include violence against people. There's no point in whitewashing it. Liberals or moderates are not duped by this sort of high minded theoretical obfuscation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>Anyways, as Bakunin said, violence should be directed at the institutions of the state not the people who maintain them.</p></blockquote>
	<p>It makes for nice writing but it&#8217;s sort of a cop out. Institutions are not just made of material infrastructure, they&#8217;re made of people too. Maybe it might assuage your conscience to think of it as violence against an abstract &#8216;institution&#8217;, but I&#8217;d rather be fully aware of what I&#8217;m doing. Violence against institutions is by nature going to include violence against people. There&#8217;s no point in whitewashing it. Liberals or moderates are not duped by this sort of high minded theoretical obfuscation.
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		<title>by: squashed</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/24/hope-the-pie-was-imported/#comment-511044</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:53:53 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/24/hope-the-pie-was-imported/#comment-511044</guid>
					<description>.

A Person can't tell the difference between

PIE, TENNIS BALL, and AUTOMATIC WEAPONS ...

.

HOW absurd is that? This is the meta thinking underlying the future individual who will execute the interpretation of law .... ???

WTF?

MORE PIES!

And equip the troops with pies too! Freedom and Peace on the march!  (hey, he did implay pie and automatic weapons are the same. Why not use the idea to stop the war?)

GIANT PIE FIGHT.</description>
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	<p>A Person can&#8217;t tell the difference between</p>
	<p>PIE, TENNIS BALL, and AUTOMATIC WEAPONS &#8230;</p>
	<p>.</p>
	<p>HOW absurd is that? This is the meta thinking underlying the future individual who will execute the interpretation of law &#8230;. ???</p>
	<p>WTF?</p>
	<p>MORE PIES!</p>
	<p>And equip the troops with pies too! Freedom and Peace on the march!  (hey, he did implay pie and automatic weapons are the same. Why not use the idea to stop the war?)</p>
	<p>GIANT PIE FIGHT.
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