Comments on: Pennsylvania voters: Vote Obama http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/22/pennsylvania-voters-vote-obama/ Just another WordPress weblog Mon, 09 Nov 2009 23:57:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: darkchocolate http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/22/pennsylvania-voters-vote-obama/#comment-510765 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:41:38 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/22/pennsylvania-voters-vote-obama/#comment-510765 Thanks Helen. I made a similar point on another thread where Obama supporters were making snarky, elitist, self-righteous jabs at anyone that dare question or critique the Obama candidacy. This rhetoric is so completely out of sync with what his campaign has been espousing. Thanks Helen. I made a similar point on another thread where Obama supporters were making snarky, elitist, self-righteous jabs at anyone that dare question or critique the Obama candidacy. This rhetoric is so completely out of sync with what his campaign has been espousing.

]]> by: Helen H http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/22/pennsylvania-voters-vote-obama/#comment-510754 Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:16:15 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/22/pennsylvania-voters-vote-obama/#comment-510754 Obama supporters: the more people you have like squashed the less likely fence-sitters and former Clinton supporters are to want to have anything to do with your candidate. Period. Obama's biggest weakness is the same as Clinton's, the portion of their supporters who are exceptional assholes. Yes, they are there for both. For some reason, I find the Obama ones I've actually met to be far more rabid and off-putting. Just my experience. I'm sure it goes the other way as well for other people. Neither of these candidates are perfect. Both are a hell of a lot better than we've had. Please don't let the rabid fuck it up for all of us. Obama supporters: the more people you have like squashed the less likely fence-sitters and former Clinton supporters are to want to have anything to do with your candidate. Period.

Obama’s biggest weakness is the same as Clinton’s, the portion of their supporters who are exceptional assholes. Yes, they are there for both. For some reason, I find the Obama ones I’ve actually met to be far more rabid and off-putting. Just my experience. I’m sure it goes the other way as well for other people.

Neither of these candidates are perfect. Both are a hell of a lot better than we’ve had. Please don’t let the rabid fuck it up for all of us.

]]> by: unree http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/22/pennsylvania-voters-vote-obama/#comment-510676 Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:35:57 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/22/pennsylvania-voters-vote-obama/#comment-510676 C'mon MikeEss and the matthew show, can't you see through the sockpuppet handle @123? C’mon MikeEss and the matthew show, can’t you see through the sockpuppet handle @123?

]]> by: MikeEss http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/22/pennsylvania-voters-vote-obama/#comment-510653 Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:02:32 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/22/pennsylvania-voters-vote-obama/#comment-510653 <i>"It’s been over 12 hours…dare we hope that squashed has finally fucking gone to sleep?"</i> That Red Bull is somethin' else, ain't it?... “It’s been over 12 hours…dare we hope that squashed has finally fucking gone to sleep?”

That Red Bull is somethin’ else, ain’t it?…

]]> by: the matthew show http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/22/pennsylvania-voters-vote-obama/#comment-510652 Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:52:11 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/22/pennsylvania-voters-vote-obama/#comment-510652 It's been over 12 hours...dare we hope that squashed has finally fucking gone to sleep? It’s been over 12 hours…dare we hope that squashed has finally fucking gone to sleep?

]]> by: Meta Discourse http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/22/pennsylvania-voters-vote-obama/#comment-510539 Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:58:55 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/22/pennsylvania-voters-vote-obama/#comment-510539 <i>Vado April 22, 2008 at 11:18 pm Squashed, I’m a Hillary supporter - the obnoxious kind who has shunned feminists for months because they support Obama. For the past few weeks it occurred to me that I might have a very difficult decision to make come November and I should figure out what my problem is and whether it warrants my intense dislike and distrust of him. But you know what, thank you. You convinced me that my gut is right and in November I will be voting third party. </i> you posted the same thing 3 times. Meta based argument in web space just doesn't make sense. Suppose there are 3 sock puppets setting up a scene and one couldn't identify them. They are meant to create backlash. One bait and two chasers. Being chatty to one another. Should a vote be based on sock puppets conversation? The assumption that identity and point of view has one on one correlation is not true in cyberspace. Vado April 22, 2008 at 11:18 pm
Squashed, I’m a Hillary supporter - the obnoxious kind who has shunned feminists for months because they support Obama. For the past few weeks it occurred to me that I might have a very difficult decision to make come November and I should figure out what my problem is and whether it warrants my intense dislike and distrust of him.
But you know what, thank you. You convinced me that my gut is right and in November I will be voting third party.

you posted the same thing 3 times.

Meta based argument in web space just doesn’t make sense. Suppose there are 3 sock puppets setting up a scene and one couldn’t identify them. They are meant to create backlash. One bait and two chasers. Being chatty to one another.

Should a vote be based on sock puppets conversation?
The assumption that identity and point of view has one on one correlation is not true in cyberspace.

]]> by: redmountain http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/22/pennsylvania-voters-vote-obama/#comment-510527 Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:59:11 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/22/pennsylvania-voters-vote-obama/#comment-510527 Squashed is a bully. if a Clinton supporter was this nasty and aggressive they would have been kicked off on post #3. What are we up to now? Post 99? Squashed is a bully. if a Clinton supporter was this nasty and aggressive they would have been kicked off on post #3. What are we up to now? Post 99?

]]> by: MikeEss http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/22/pennsylvania-voters-vote-obama/#comment-510526 Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:58:58 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/22/pennsylvania-voters-vote-obama/#comment-510526 Dana, you seem to be attaching some kind of deep meaning to those figures and I'm not sure why. This is a Primary. For the Democratic nomination. It says almost nothing about what will happen in November. Obama will get the nomination, the GOP tomfoolery will not happen in November, and there's still a lot of time to remind everyone how McCain sold his soul in his last ditch effort to gain POTUS. His obsession is making me think that he has a variation on the same kind of daddy issues as his new best friend George Bush Jr. With the American economy rapidly driving into the ditch, and obvious Republican fingerprints all over it, I think you've got some serious problems. The Reichwing better put the racist attacks on the front burner or it's not going to work out... Dana, you seem to be attaching some kind of deep meaning to those figures and I’m not sure why.

This is a Primary. For the Democratic nomination. It says almost nothing about what will happen in November.

Obama will get the nomination, the GOP tomfoolery will not happen in November, and there’s still a lot of time to remind everyone how McCain sold his soul in his last ditch effort to gain POTUS.

His obsession is making me think that he has a variation on the same kind of daddy issues as his new best friend George Bush Jr.

With the American economy rapidly driving into the ditch, and obvious Republican fingerprints all over it, I think you’ve got some serious problems.

The Reichwing better put the racist attacks on the front burner or it’s not going to work out…

]]> by: Dana http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/22/pennsylvania-voters-vote-obama/#comment-510525 Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:48:15 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/22/pennsylvania-voters-vote-obama/#comment-510525 This turned out to be exactly what I’ve been saying all along: a demographic decision. <a href="http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/vote-polls/PA.html" rel="nofollow">According to <i>The New York Times</i></a>, the vote broke down like this: White men: Clinton 53%, Obama 46% White women: Clinton 64%, Obama 36% Black men: Clinton 4%, Obama 96% Black women: Clinton 11%, Obama 89% Whites: Clinton 60%, Obama 40% Blacks: Clinton 8%, Obama 92% Male: Clinton 46%, Obama 53% Female: Clinton 56%, Obama 44% Protestant Christian: Clinton 58%, Obama 43% Catholic: Clinton 70%, Obama 30% Jewish: Clinton 54%, Obama 46% Other: N/A None: Clinton 37%, Obama 63% And, considering “Operation KAOS,” Democrats: Clinton 54%, Obama 46% Ind/GOP: Clinton 46%, Obama 53% This turned out to be exactly what I’ve been saying all along: a demographic decision. According to The New York Times, the vote broke down like this:

White men: Clinton 53%, Obama 46%
White women: Clinton 64%, Obama 36%
Black men: Clinton 4%, Obama 96%
Black women: Clinton 11%, Obama 89%

Whites: Clinton 60%, Obama 40%
Blacks: Clinton 8%, Obama 92%

Male: Clinton 46%, Obama 53%
Female: Clinton 56%, Obama 44%

Protestant Christian: Clinton 58%, Obama 43%
Catholic: Clinton 70%, Obama 30%
Jewish: Clinton 54%, Obama 46%
Other: N/A
None: Clinton 37%, Obama 63%

And, considering “Operation KAOS,”
Democrats: Clinton 54%, Obama 46%
Ind/GOP: Clinton 46%, Obama 53%

]]> by: Dana http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/22/pennsylvania-voters-vote-obama/#comment-510522 Wed, 23 Apr 2008 05:17:49 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/04/22/pennsylvania-voters-vote-obama/#comment-510522 Pennsylvania voted 55% to 45% for Hillary Clinton. Whilst watching the television news this morning -- I get dressed for work in front of the TV -- I saw the screen crawls concerning the votes by county. Anecdotally (since I haven't compiled them), the rural, mostly white counties in northeastern Pennsylvania, where the bitter white folks like me live, went for Mrs Clinton by nearly three to one. The county in which I live, Carbon, went 76%-24% for Mrs Clinton, though the final numbers might take a day or two to firm up. Pennsylvania voted 55% to 45% for Hillary Clinton. Whilst watching the television news this morning — I get dressed for work in front of the TV — I saw the screen crawls concerning the votes by county. Anecdotally (since I haven’t compiled them), the rural, mostly white counties in northeastern Pennsylvania, where the bitter white folks like me live, went for Mrs Clinton by nearly three to one. The county in which I live, Carbon, went 76%-24% for Mrs Clinton, though the final numbers might take a day or two to firm up.

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