The reason why I don’t believe this murdering douchebag is because HE’S A MURDERER. There were three witnesses to his gay-bashing: His partner in crime, him, and the person he murdered. The person who can’t give his side of the story because he was beaten then locked in a trunk to die while the person who murdered him used his stolen credit cards to buy shit..

I don’t buy his “OMG FAGRAPE” story because he’s a lying, shameless scumbag, and because there’s no counter-argument from the other person involved. Why not? BECAUSE THE OTHER PERSON IS FUCKING DEAD.

But you don’t understand those kind of distinctions - to you, it’s all about how poor, poor white men are so oppressed by them evil cunts and faggots, right?

Also, if we take his story at face value, what exactly does robbing and hitting a guy a few days before have to do with it? Makes total sense if you completely discount the sexual assault story but if you do not, mugging some guy does not mean you couldnt physically defend yourself does it?

For some reason, you’re fixating on the assault and ignoring the aftermath of the assault, which was taking the guy’s credit cards and going on a spending spree.

If he had only hit the guy with a baseball bat and killed him, I could see that. If you’re someone who skirts the law at best, as Scarborough seems to have been doing, I could even see panicking and putting the guy you think you killed in the trunk of his car. After all, you’re a known scumbag (woman), so who’s going to believe you that you were assaulted?

It’s the stealing of the credit cards that kills the credibility of his story, especially once it turns out that he assaulted and robbed someone else just a few days before. Once you know that, it makes you question whether the sexual assault actually happened, or if the guy made it up to cover up his having committed two robberies within a few days of each other.

I had to google that, you’re apparently speaking some strain of foreign devil, as I’d never heard before.

For anyone else who might have missed that: It’s Kiwi for Meth.

(At least if they’re lacrosse players. I guess it’s a different story if they’re just residents of Durham who had nothing to do with the case and shouldn’t pay higher taxes over it, or students at Duke who are just trying to get a good education and would have to pay higher tuition to defray the costs.)

(The disturbing thing is that after reading durhaminwonderland there are so many people who DO support punishing innocent bystanders, because “so many of them voted for Nifong” [probably not expecting he’d do what he did,] because “few if any people in Durham/Duke came forth to defend the players, so they’re not innocent bystanders” [maybe they just wanted to stay out of the mess?] “it will help expose further corruption,” etc. It’s as if there were no lessons learned from the case.)

Reading it, I also disliked the duplicity of “those players were getting such a good education, except that they weren’t because of those professors,” which often was joined with bragging about “omg my kid has a near-perfect SAT and near-perfect grades but would never CONSIDER dook bc those professors hate white ppl!!” I wonder (and don’t sympathize) about how many of those people cut off their faces to spite their noses by attending colleges that were even more controlled by “PCness”/”academic liberalism”/etc (I find it VERY hard to believe that Duke’s student body is that liberal, being upper-class and Southern.)

I just dont get the dismissing of the alleged attack so quickly, ive never seen that happen on a feminist blog when a woman is involved, even if the credibility of the woman was as shaky as this guys. Well, things aren’t equal, are they? In a perfect world, the genders and orientations involved wouldn’t matter. In our society, they do.

Women often don’t report rape b/c they are victimized again and again by the system. Plus, simply being a rape victim makes a woman ‘damaged goods’ to many men.

If it’s not a stranger assault, and most rapes aren’t, a victim’s credibility is already shot. When someone reports a wallet stolen, people don’t automatically assume that he just gave his wallet to the “robber” and regretted it in the morning. When someone is raped, if it’s not a case of “The girl was a virgin. She was religious. She planned on saving her virginity until she was married. She was brutalized and raped, sodomized as bad as you can possibly make it, and is impregnated” then it probably wasn’t rape.

Just look at our good Dr. Troll: rape victims won’t be taken seriously b/c we don’t pity the Duke boys for being accused of rape. Dr. T probably believes OJ was innocent as well. Hey! The man was acquitted! We should all support him now.

Personally, the fact that he robbed someone before simply adds credence to the story that he robbed again. Using the credit cards and going on a shopping spree just tips it over to the point of ridiculousness.

Simply being female makes enough of a difference in our society. We’re more likely to be treated as trash, so I’m more likely to give the benefit of doubt. But even if a woman claimed she’d been raped and then killed the guy in self defense, I’d be just as dubious if she went on a 4 day shopping spree with the rapists cards, especially if she’d done something similar just a few days earlier.

If I was this guy I wouldnt have the religion card to play as I’m an atheist but if things looked bad for me, heck I might even pull the gay panic card even though I’m bi, my reaction to waking up to someone forcing oral sex on me would be the same for either sex but it would be much tougher to get a jury to buy non-consenual oral sex performed by a female no? eh, seems like just another dirty trick but I’m not so sure we can really get into it too far in this specific case since no one knows what happened in that room right? Off to work, have a wonderful night all.

Isn’t that just the way? I mean, I was so traumatised by the last Dancing With The Stars that I smashed a shop window, stole a few televisions, and flogged them off down the pub for drinking money. Not to mention that last drink/driving ad, which forced me to carjack some yuppie in a BMW.

I’d love to know whether Scarborough and/or Carlisle were P users, because I’ve heard that bullshit before.

Scenario: You have been knocked out, and come to in a prone or sitting position, dazed, and notice a head bobbing in your lap. You pick up baseball bat and hit said head. What happens?

1. You can’t get much of a swing, and you’re swinging in your own direction, which would make me, at least, tend to hold back.

2. You hit head, but unless you get an exact hit in your dazed condition, the bat slides or bounces off and hits you as well.

3. You hit head, and the neuromuscular reaction causes jaw to clench. OWWW! At least, hitting head pushes head quickly in one direction or another, and teeth scrape or dig in. OWWWW!

Both 2 and especially 3 would leave pretty clear evidence.

Scenario 2: You have been knocked out, and come to in a prone or sitting position, dazed, and notice a head bobbing in your lap.

1. You grab head, shout “WTF are you doing?” push head and guy it’s attached to away. Guy moves away, assault is over.

2. You pick up baseball bat, follow guy, get a good swing at his head, and do the Mark McGwire imitation you’ve always fantasized.

At that point, you’re no longer defending yourself, you’re just a gay basher.

If the assault actually happened, I think scenario 2 is the more likely one.