And a final thing: Is Ann Coulter *really* a woman? I have my doubts…

This again?

I think it has already been established by our good hosts that here, on this progressive site, statements like this aren’t okay. Ann Coulter is open to attack on so many positions, going the “heh heh, she’s a HE!” route is really unnecessary and harmful to progressive discourse.

I wish people would stop saying this, because I hate having to defend her. It makes me feel dirty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya46wfeWqJk

A control system must exist. A system of thought/ideology.

No site can have absolute free form for it to still have political goal. I was saying about degree of information control, not actual “information” in a site. That’s what I was thinking.

Of course the actual freeper content itself, can be fairly extreme. (calling on for war, assassination, agreeing on torture, etc.)

When I say “more extreme”, I’m recognizing that there are an awful lot of “solid”, middle-class (whatever that means), run of the mill Republicans who, if they were aware of FreeRepublic, would not approve at all of Freeper behavior and “philosophy”. In that respect Freepers are certainly extreme.

I’m sure they would think the same of Pandagonians - and maybe they’re right (but I don’t think so). But it’s pretty hard to argue that Daily Kos, Eschaton, AmericaBlog, Firedoglake, Hullabaloo, etc., are extremely rabid Left-wing sites. At least we don’t get our knickers twisted if somebody drops an F-bomb…

No they are not, they are just larger because they are first. (tho’ relatively speaking, they are not as large anymore compared to competing site.)

One thing that keep surprises me. Propaganda exist and active people. Any blogger knows that. It is not possible to run “completely” open web site. It’ll explode into nothingness of random noise.

All information and its flow is shaped! (In fact the point is politics is to create coherent mass perception based on ideology.)

Well, I wouldn’t worry too much what these ass-hats think of Condi (though I don’t think much of Condi myself).

And a final thing: Is Ann Coulter *really* a woman? I have my doubts…

They represent the extreme side of the wingnut phenomenon. If they were any more extreme, they’d have shaved heads and swastika tattoos…and some of them probably do…

It’s all about being white, male, and “right”-wing. They never REALLY liked Condi - any more than a rabid racist likes the best (Black) player on his favorite ball team.

As long as they are delivering Rethug talking points and promoting wingnut causes, everything is cool. Step outa line? The Freepers turn on you like a rabid dog. Condi isn’t as useful when she goes off the reservation.

Malkin is living the same kind of dichotomy as Dr. Rice - once you’re on the tiger’s back, how do you get off?

Coulter is much more their style. Her only problem is being a “her”, otherwise she’s perfect: White, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant, and Reichwing.

Of course, if the revolution goes any further, she’ll be up against the wall, just like the rest of us…

I’ve clearly missed the boat here. So I guess these “freepers” are distinct from your run-of-the-mill Republicans?

I still find it odd that I have never heard of freepers before this posting, but if these are the people attacking Condi Rice’s statements on race, then I am not surprised. It sounds like freepers would be threatened by anything remotely deviant from their particular and limited world view.

I guess what’s weirder is the notion that such people favored or supported a black person and a woman in the first place. These sort of gender and racial differences sound like they should enough to send a freeper over the edge!

If you remember during “Will Rice run for prez or not”, freeper happily play the propaganda game.

To put it mildly, freeper is highly controlled propaganda environment, with editor, sock puppet, etc. They exist to create public opinion. (no, there is no ‘free speech’ in wingnut site.)

The racist behavior was cultivated by republican party to maintain base. And Condi IS aware of the party game plan. She didn’t say a damned thing or try to change it.

Now that she is fairly useless and a lame duck. Somebody more powerful come along and use that machine to get her.

I have ZERO sympathy.

Again. Condi controlled a magnificant machine. (SOS, and she was Ns a before that.) Both agencies exist in realm of information. Analysis, shaping, and alteration.

You think pandagon is the only place where people talk about “framing”, use of language, and shaping political direction?

I repeat, she cannot play innocent.

freeper is a party asset. It cannot run without party resources.