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	<title>Comments on: The humorless fuddy-duddies of &#8220;South Park&#8221;</title>
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		<title>by: NY Expat</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/27/the-humorless-fuddy-duddies-of-south-park/#comment-504292</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 02:44:13 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Damn, late again!

For anyone who's read this far, here's a link to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.avclub.com/content/interview/trey_parker_matt_stone&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the Onion's&lt;/a&gt; interview with them a couple of weeks ago.  It's been many years since I've watched the show regularly, because they kept wallowing in their own ignorance when it came to politics (&quot;Rosie O'Donnell is &lt;i&gt;fat&lt;/i&gt;!  And &lt;i&gt;loud&lt;/i&gt;!  And &lt;i&gt;annoying&lt;/i&gt;!  Hahahahaha!&quot;).  However, I thought this quote from the interview gave some insight on why they're not interested in losing their ignorance:

&lt;blockquote&gt;If you ask me how to really solve the health-care crisis, I have fuckin' no idea, and I don't want to be a part of it. But I can make a little fat kid yell some emotional truth about it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

To them, it's all about their gut reaction and they're never interested in asking &lt;i&gt;why&lt;/i&gt; they have that reaction, which is why they do stupid things like swallow the Sore/Loserman bullshit during the 2000 recount hook, line and sinker.

As far as cultural commentary goes, they're pretty good.  I get the impression that they actually have a fondness for some of the topics they lampoon (e.g., &lt;i&gt;Lord Of The Rings&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Guitar Hero&lt;/i&gt;), which is probably why those episodes resonate better.

As far as convincing South Park Republicans to stop voting Republican, I'd imagine that the easiest thing to do would be to use a word who's negative connotation has been revived by South Park itself and tell them that voting Republican is gay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Damn, late again!</p>
	<p>For anyone who&#8217;s read this far, here&#8217;s a link to <a href="http://www.avclub.com/content/interview/trey_parker_matt_stone" rel="nofollow">the Onion&#8217;s</a> interview with them a couple of weeks ago.  It&#8217;s been many years since I&#8217;ve watched the show regularly, because they kept wallowing in their own ignorance when it came to politics (&#8221;Rosie O&#8217;Donnell is <i>fat</i>!  And <i>loud</i>!  And <i>annoying</i>!  Hahahahaha!&#8221;).  However, I thought this quote from the interview gave some insight on why they&#8217;re not interested in losing their ignorance:</p>
	<blockquote><p>If you ask me how to really solve the health-care crisis, I have fuckin&#8217; no idea, and I don&#8217;t want to be a part of it. But I can make a little fat kid yell some emotional truth about it.</p></blockquote>
	<p>To them, it&#8217;s all about their gut reaction and they&#8217;re never interested in asking <i>why</i> they have that reaction, which is why they do stupid things like swallow the Sore/Loserman bullshit during the 2000 recount hook, line and sinker.</p>
	<p>As far as cultural commentary goes, they&#8217;re pretty good.  I get the impression that they actually have a fondness for some of the topics they lampoon (e.g., <i>Lord Of The Rings</i> and <i>Guitar Hero</i>), which is probably why those episodes resonate better.</p>
	<p>As far as convincing South Park Republicans to stop voting Republican, I&#8217;d imagine that the easiest thing to do would be to use a word who&#8217;s negative connotation has been revived by South Park itself and tell them that voting Republican is gay.
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		<title>by: Corwin</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/27/the-humorless-fuddy-duddies-of-south-park/#comment-504261</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 20:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/27/the-humorless-fuddy-duddies-of-south-park/#comment-504261</guid>
					<description> &quot;The trouble with them is they worship sacred cows.&quot;
Juxtaposition  with:They start making some bumpr sticker level Libertarian  comment and I shut it off.
   Time for me to finish a biography of Feynman.Oh,and &quot;Some of my best friends were Liberal Arte majors.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;The trouble with them is they worship sacred cows.&#8221;<br />
Juxtaposition  with:They start making some bumpr sticker level Libertarian  comment and I shut it off.<br />
   Time for me to finish a biography of Feynman.Oh,and &#8220;Some of my best friends were Liberal Arte majors.&#8221;
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		<title>by: Carl Rennie</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/27/the-humorless-fuddy-duddies-of-south-park/#comment-504038</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/27/the-humorless-fuddy-duddies-of-south-park/#comment-504038</guid>
					<description>The above comment was me, btw, I put down &quot;male authority figure&quot; once for a joke and kind of forgot.  Oops.

Also, I wanted to mention that I think reality TV is absolutely ripe for analysis.  Frankly, anything that a lot of people spend a lot of time watching does have a large impact on our culture, larger, most likely, than stuff (like &lt;i&gt;The Wire&lt;/i&gt;) that seems &quot;deeper&quot;.

I don't typically &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; much analysis of reality TV, b/c I don't really watch/enjoy it, but dismissing it out of hand is short-sighted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The above comment was me, btw, I put down &#8220;male authority figure&#8221; once for a joke and kind of forgot.  Oops.</p>
	<p>Also, I wanted to mention that I think reality TV is absolutely ripe for analysis.  Frankly, anything that a lot of people spend a lot of time watching does have a large impact on our culture, larger, most likely, than stuff (like <i>The Wire</i>) that seems &#8220;deeper&#8221;.</p>
	<p>I don&#8217;t typically <i>do</i> much analysis of reality TV, b/c I don&#8217;t really watch/enjoy it, but dismissing it out of hand is short-sighted.
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		<title>by: Male Authority Figure</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/27/the-humorless-fuddy-duddies-of-south-park/#comment-504037</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/27/the-humorless-fuddy-duddies-of-south-park/#comment-504037</guid>
					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And substuting addiction to the 12 steps for addiction to alcohol can be just as destructive.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, except that you're not as likely to be violent, out of control, kill yourself or others through drunk driving, damage your health, etc.

Not all addictions are equally destructive.

Also, a second on &lt;i&gt;Infinite Jest&lt;/i&gt;.  It's great, though I've been praying for the last month or so that it eventually will come to an end.  It just keeps. on. going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>And substuting addiction to the 12 steps for addiction to alcohol can be just as destructive.</p></blockquote>
	<p>Yes, except that you&#8217;re not as likely to be violent, out of control, kill yourself or others through drunk driving, damage your health, etc.</p>
	<p>Not all addictions are equally destructive.</p>
	<p>Also, a second on <i>Infinite Jest</i>.  It&#8217;s great, though I&#8217;ve been praying for the last month or so that it eventually will come to an end.  It just keeps. on. going.
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		<title>by: Damian</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/27/the-humorless-fuddy-duddies-of-south-park/#comment-504035</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/27/the-humorless-fuddy-duddies-of-south-park/#comment-504035</guid>
					<description>South Park wasn't all that funny when all it had was &quot;being edgy and offensive&quot;.  It's even less funny now that it's &quot;Stone and Parker's Big Everything We Don't Believe Bashfest&quot;.

About the only good recent episodes were &quot;Trapped in the Closet&quot; and &quot;Super Adventure Club&quot;.  Everything else has been nothing more than thirty minutes of tearing down anyone who isn't them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>South Park wasn&#8217;t all that funny when all it had was &#8220;being edgy and offensive&#8221;.  It&#8217;s even less funny now that it&#8217;s &#8220;Stone and Parker&#8217;s Big Everything We Don&#8217;t Believe Bashfest&#8221;.</p>
	<p>About the only good recent episodes were &#8220;Trapped in the Closet&#8221; and &#8220;Super Adventure Club&#8221;.  Everything else has been nothing more than thirty minutes of tearing down anyone who isn&#8217;t them.
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		<title>by: stogoe</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/27/the-humorless-fuddy-duddies-of-south-park/#comment-504032</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/27/the-humorless-fuddy-duddies-of-south-park/#comment-504032</guid>
					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It was fine right up until the end where they started moralizing about how avoiding alcohol completely wasn’t controlling oneself, and that alcoholics can just control themselves and drink moderately.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I didn't see that as the point at all.  Not everyone who drinks is an alcoholic.  Certainly not Randy Marsh.  And substuting addiction to the 12 steps for addiction to alcohol can be just as destructive.

Or is this just another bullshit AA &quot;Everyone's an alcoholic, they just haven't admitted it yet&quot; line?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>It was fine right up until the end where they started moralizing about how avoiding alcohol completely wasn’t controlling oneself, and that alcoholics can just control themselves and drink moderately.</p></blockquote>
	<p>I didn&#8217;t see that as the point at all.  Not everyone who drinks is an alcoholic.  Certainly not Randy Marsh.  And substuting addiction to the 12 steps for addiction to alcohol can be just as destructive.</p>
	<p>Or is this just another bullshit AA &#8220;Everyone&#8217;s an alcoholic, they just haven&#8217;t admitted it yet&#8221; line?
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		<title>by: Pat Doyle</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/27/the-humorless-fuddy-duddies-of-south-park/#comment-504022</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>This show is crap, from day one.  The humor and animation is 2nd grade level at best. Geez - overgrown adolescence is friggin pandemic in this country - South Park is exhibit no. 1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>This show is crap, from day one.  The humor and animation is 2nd grade level at best. Geez - overgrown adolescence is friggin pandemic in this country - South Park is exhibit no. 1.
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		<title>by: louise</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/27/the-humorless-fuddy-duddies-of-south-park/#comment-504008</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>So it would seem, Mnenosyne!! :) Oh, what WOULD Brian Boitano do?

This thread has reminded me of the Monty Python sketch with the pepperpots squabbling about whether something was satire or madcap humor...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>So it would seem, Mnenosyne!! <img src='http://pandagon.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Oh, what WOULD Brian Boitano do?</p>
	<p>This thread has reminded me of the Monty Python sketch with the pepperpots squabbling about whether something was satire or madcap humor&#8230;
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		<title>by: preying mantis</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/27/the-humorless-fuddy-duddies-of-south-park/#comment-504007</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&quot;next there will be something about how reality TV is “important”.&quot;

Given how heavily edited and carefully selected what makes it into the episode is, reality tv is hardly free of narrative, theme, etc.  And given how strong the public's reaction has been to some of them, it would be hard to say that nothing could be learned from what chords are being struck or what chords the studios are hoping to strike by including certain scenes or conditions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;next there will be something about how reality TV is “important”.&#8221;</p>
	<p>Given how heavily edited and carefully selected what makes it into the episode is, reality tv is hardly free of narrative, theme, etc.  And given how strong the public&#8217;s reaction has been to some of them, it would be hard to say that nothing could be learned from what chords are being struck or what chords the studios are hoping to strike by including certain scenes or conditions.
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		<title>by: other orange</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/27/the-humorless-fuddy-duddies-of-south-park/#comment-504003</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>A close friend dated an albino guy in college, and has remained friends with him over the years... consequently, she is one of the few people I've ever met with a treasure trove of albino jokes ! (Mostly, he made them up.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>A close friend dated an albino guy in college, and has remained friends with him over the years&#8230; consequently, she is one of the few people I&#8217;ve ever met with a treasure trove of albino jokes ! (Mostly, he made them up.)
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