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		<title>by: Grammar RWA</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/27/6962/#comment-504176</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 12:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You’re right, Brian. We get the “Her voters will vote for me, but mine won’t vote for her.” and Michelle’s “I’d have to think about voting for her.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Funny you should mention &lt;a href=&quot;http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jKqHbY8ZEkcM-IYrhvQy4cHFRXDAD8VN4GSG0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;that:&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;i&gt;a recent Gallup poll, in which 28 percent of Clinton's Democratic supporters said they would vote for McCain if Obama is the party's nominee. Nineteen percent of Obama's supporters said they would vote for McCain if Clinton gets the nod.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>You’re right, Brian. We get the “Her voters will vote for me, but mine won’t vote for her.” and Michelle’s “I’d have to think about voting for her.”</p></blockquote>
	<p>Funny you should mention <a href="http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jKqHbY8ZEkcM-IYrhvQy4cHFRXDAD8VN4GSG0" rel="nofollow">that:</a></p>
	<p><i>a recent Gallup poll, in which 28 percent of Clinton&#8217;s Democratic supporters said they would vote for McCain if Obama is the party&#8217;s nominee. Nineteen percent of Obama&#8217;s supporters said they would vote for McCain if Clinton gets the nod.</i>
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		<title>by: Grammar RWA</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/27/6962/#comment-504174</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 12:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Shouldn’t the economy be in the service of people and our well-being? And wouldn’t we do better if things like happiness, community, and sustainability were considered important things to cultivate, along with profits?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Currently it is illegal for publicly traded corporations to prioritize anything at all above the profits of their shareholders. We would have to devise an alternative economic system that allows for the primacy of other values. Great, and I'm on board, but let's be clear about one thing: that's not capitalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>Shouldn’t the economy be in the service of people and our well-being? And wouldn’t we do better if things like happiness, community, and sustainability were considered important things to cultivate, along with profits?</p></blockquote>
	<p>Currently it is illegal for publicly traded corporations to prioritize anything at all above the profits of their shareholders. We would have to devise an alternative economic system that allows for the primacy of other values. Great, and I&#8217;m on board, but let&#8217;s be clear about one thing: that&#8217;s not capitalism.
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		<title>by: CBrachyrhynchos</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/27/6962/#comment-504162</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;The last section interestingly focuses on the role of evangelicals in the environmental movement. I’m usually hostile to the “let’s join hands with the Bible-thumpers” stuff, because most of it is very Amy Sullivan-esque, asking readers to compromise on important issues like women’s and gay rights in order to suck up to the thumpers.&lt;/i&gt;

It's not a matter of &quot;compromise on this to get that.&quot;  In just about every gay rights group and action I've attended, I've been outnumbered by people of faith.  And I'm not just talking about the usual suspects of pagans, liberation theologists and Friends, I'm talking about Baptists, Methodists, and even some Fundamentalists.  If we frame every political issue as secular vs. religious, we risk splitting some valuable and much needed coalitions.    </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>The last section interestingly focuses on the role of evangelicals in the environmental movement. I’m usually hostile to the “let’s join hands with the Bible-thumpers” stuff, because most of it is very Amy Sullivan-esque, asking readers to compromise on important issues like women’s and gay rights in order to suck up to the thumpers.</i></p>
	<p>It&#8217;s not a matter of &#8220;compromise on this to get that.&#8221;  In just about every gay rights group and action I&#8217;ve attended, I&#8217;ve been outnumbered by people of faith.  And I&#8217;m not just talking about the usual suspects of pagans, liberation theologists and Friends, I&#8217;m talking about Baptists, Methodists, and even some Fundamentalists.  If we frame every political issue as secular vs. religious, we risk splitting some valuable and much needed coalitions.
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		<title>by: fishboots</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/27/6962/#comment-503884</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Gardening sounds delightful. As does the beach. This land locked black-thumber will probably be knitting. Socks, I think. Maybe a nice lace shawl... the latest Interweave has a Bleeding Heart stole I thought would match my political outlook;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Gardening sounds delightful. As does the beach. This land locked black-thumber will probably be knitting. Socks, I think. Maybe a nice lace shawl&#8230; the latest Interweave has a Bleeding Heart stole I thought would match my political outlook;)
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		<title>by: louise</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/27/6962/#comment-503873</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 08:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>http://www.denverconvention2008.com/

Late August in Denver. I plan to spend alot of time gardening and hitting the beach with my kids as soon as weather allows until then!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><a href='http://www.denverconvention2008.com/' rel='nofollow'>http://www.denverconvention2008.com/</a></p>
	<p>Late August in Denver. I plan to spend alot of time gardening and hitting the beach with my kids as soon as weather allows until then!
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		<title>by: Astraea</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/27/6962/#comment-503869</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 07:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>lol, thanks. :)

That's a great story. We all do need some uplifting and encouraging news to help us deal with the bad. (As perhaps my reactionary post illustrates!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>lol, thanks. <img src='http://pandagon.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
	<p>That&#8217;s a great story. We all do need some uplifting and encouraging news to help us deal with the bad. (As perhaps my reactionary post illustrates!)
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		<title>by: fishboots</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/27/6962/#comment-503864</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 07:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>louise, that is the best thing I have heard in a long while. Thank you so much for sharing it.

an aside:
When is the Dem. Convention? I'm kinda wishing I could pull a Rip Van Winkle until the day after.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>louise, that is the best thing I have heard in a long while. Thank you so much for sharing it.</p>
	<p>an aside:<br />
When is the Dem. Convention? I&#8217;m kinda wishing I could pull a Rip Van Winkle until the day after.
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		<title>by: louise</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/27/6962/#comment-503859</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 06:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Here, hon- have more coffee... I've been up since 4:45 and am on my 5th cup. (Really)

Unrelated, but gonna share- Amanda has a very good point that the negativity and cynicism is getting debilitating. Heard this yesterday from one of my kid's teachers:

Last week, our spec ed elementary kids participated in the statewide Special Olympics Bowling Tournament (my daughter's 2nd year). But because of overcrowded conditions, all 4th graders, who are considered elementary students, are taught at the middle/ jr high school. 2 of those 4th graders are in the spec ed classes, so they were picked up at the school and brought to the tournament on the same bus as their younger classmates. 

But here's where it gets really good: &lt;b&gt;as the boys were walking from their classroom at the far end of the school to the bus, ALL of their older schoolmates, grades 4-8, lined the entire set of hallways and gymnasium/cafeteria to cheer the 2 boys on! &lt;/b&gt; One boy was so amazed by the response that he started hugging his classmates and high-fiving as he went.

After the bullying posts and dirty politics the past few days, I really needed to share something &lt;b&gt;good&lt;/b&gt; in the world. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Here, hon- have more coffee&#8230; I&#8217;ve been up since 4:45 and am on my 5th cup. (Really)</p>
	<p>Unrelated, but gonna share- Amanda has a very good point that the negativity and cynicism is getting debilitating. Heard this yesterday from one of my kid&#8217;s teachers:</p>
	<p>Last week, our spec ed elementary kids participated in the statewide Special Olympics Bowling Tournament (my daughter&#8217;s 2nd year). But because of overcrowded conditions, all 4th graders, who are considered elementary students, are taught at the middle/ jr high school. 2 of those 4th graders are in the spec ed classes, so they were picked up at the school and brought to the tournament on the same bus as their younger classmates. </p>
	<p>But here&#8217;s where it gets really good: <b>as the boys were walking from their classroom at the far end of the school to the bus, ALL of their older schoolmates, grades 4-8, lined the entire set of hallways and gymnasium/cafeteria to cheer the 2 boys on! </b> One boy was so amazed by the response that he started hugging his classmates and high-fiving as he went.</p>
	<p>After the bullying posts and dirty politics the past few days, I really needed to share something <b>good</b> in the world.
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		<title>by: Astraea</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/27/6962/#comment-503857</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 06:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Wait, it's really early and now I see the snark/sarcasm. So sorry! This is what I get for reading blogs before my third cup of coffee.  Now I'm embarassed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Wait, it&#8217;s really early and now I see the snark/sarcasm. So sorry! This is what I get for reading blogs before my third cup of coffee.  Now I&#8217;m embarassed.
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		<title>by: Astraea</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/27/6962/#comment-503856</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 06:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Can you please criticize things you don't like about Clinton without using sexist slurs?  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Can you please criticize things you don&#8217;t like about Clinton without using sexist slurs?
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