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	<title>Comments on: O&#8217;Reilly guest bleats about the &#8216;female agenda&#8217;</title>
	<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/12/oreilly-guest-bleats-about-the-female-agenda/</link>
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		<title>by: Heather</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/12/oreilly-guest-bleats-about-the-female-agenda/#comment-505083</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 07:26:02 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Oh, here is a real twist.  These American guys are not importing foreign women.  Oh no.  They are setting up slave camps in the third world; a safe haven not subject to our laws.  This is getting out of control.

http://www.amazon.com/review/product/1580052010/ref=cm_cr_dp_synop?%5Fencoding=UTF8&amp;amp;sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending#R1V37LUZSND00L</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Oh, here is a real twist.  These American guys are not importing foreign women.  Oh no.  They are setting up slave camps in the third world; a safe haven not subject to our laws.  This is getting out of control.</p>
	<p><a href='http://www.amazon.com/review/product/1580052010/ref=cm_cr_dp_synop?%5Fencoding=UTF8&amp;sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending#R1V37LUZSND00L' rel='nofollow'>http://www.amazon.com/review/product/1580052010/ref=cm_cr_dp_synop?%5Fencoding=UTF8&amp;sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending#R1V37LUZSND00L</a>
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		<title>by: LostSailor</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/12/oreilly-guest-bleats-about-the-female-agenda/#comment-500652</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/12/oreilly-guest-bleats-about-the-female-agenda/#comment-500652</guid>
					<description>&lt;i&gt;What happens in the henhouse, stays in the henhouse…&lt;/i&gt;

Ah, but Mr. P doesn't want to be confined to the henhouse.  He's a free-range type &quot;Little Red Rooster.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>What happens in the henhouse, stays in the henhouse…</i></p>
	<p>Ah, but Mr. P doesn&#8217;t want to be confined to the henhouse.  He&#8217;s a free-range type &#8220;Little Red Rooster.&#8221;
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		<title>by: MikeEss</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/12/oreilly-guest-bleats-about-the-female-agenda/#comment-500572</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/12/oreilly-guest-bleats-about-the-female-agenda/#comment-500572</guid>
					<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Now…what about those chickens?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

What happens in the henhouse, stays in the henhouse...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>&#8220;Now…what about those chickens?&#8221;</i></p>
	<p>What happens in the henhouse, stays in the henhouse&#8230;
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		<title>by: LostSailor</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/12/oreilly-guest-bleats-about-the-female-agenda/#comment-500570</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/12/oreilly-guest-bleats-about-the-female-agenda/#comment-500570</guid>
					<description>&lt;i&gt;[You seem to have confused the right to say what you want without restriction with a non-existent right to speak to a particular person at the particular moment you choose.]

This right exists already with total strangers on the street. A woman can indicate at that moment that she does not wish to be further spoken to by that particular man, but he did have the initial right to say hello or ask anything else deemed by local customs to be polite and non-threatening.&lt;/i&gt;

You are still confused.  There are all sorts of legal restrictions on your &quot;right&quot; to talk to a particular person at any time of your choosing.  Your right to free speech does not include shouting about IMBRA on a public street outside my window at 2am.  Your approaching women you don't know on the street to &quot;say hello&quot; could easily be interpreted as harassment, subjecting you to arrest.

Your first amendment right of free speech protects only the content of your speech from government suppression or interference, and even that right is not absolute.

You don't really have a leg to stand on here, but your desperation is showing. 

Now...what about those chickens?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>[You seem to have confused the right to say what you want without restriction with a non-existent right to speak to a particular person at the particular moment you choose.]</p>
	<p>This right exists already with total strangers on the street. A woman can indicate at that moment that she does not wish to be further spoken to by that particular man, but he did have the initial right to say hello or ask anything else deemed by local customs to be polite and non-threatening.</i></p>
	<p>You are still confused.  There are all sorts of legal restrictions on your &#8220;right&#8221; to talk to a particular person at any time of your choosing.  Your right to free speech does not include shouting about IMBRA on a public street outside my window at 2am.  Your approaching women you don&#8217;t know on the street to &#8220;say hello&#8221; could easily be interpreted as harassment, subjecting you to arrest.</p>
	<p>Your first amendment right of free speech protects only the content of your speech from government suppression or interference, and even that right is not absolute.</p>
	<p>You don&#8217;t really have a leg to stand on here, but your desperation is showing. </p>
	<p>Now&#8230;what about those chickens?
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		<title>by: Ismone</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/12/oreilly-guest-bleats-about-the-female-agenda/#comment-500375</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/12/oreilly-guest-bleats-about-the-female-agenda/#comment-500375</guid>
					<description>To Jim Peterson:

You have indicated to me that you are aware of people being held illegally in this country.  In your eyes, even, this seems to be a crime.  And yet your only concern is not for these women, it is that they are not free to marry men such as yourself.  

I urge you again, since you have stated you have knowledge, to take it to the authorities.  Until you have, I have nothing more to say to you.  

I do not call men courageous who know of other people's suffering, have the power to stop it, and yet stand silent.  Courage means doing the right thing, especially if it puts you in harm's way.  You, sir, have demonstrated none.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>To Jim Peterson:</p>
	<p>You have indicated to me that you are aware of people being held illegally in this country.  In your eyes, even, this seems to be a crime.  And yet your only concern is not for these women, it is that they are not free to marry men such as yourself.  </p>
	<p>I urge you again, since you have stated you have knowledge, to take it to the authorities.  Until you have, I have nothing more to say to you.  </p>
	<p>I do not call men courageous who know of other people&#8217;s suffering, have the power to stop it, and yet stand silent.  Courage means doing the right thing, especially if it puts you in harm&#8217;s way.  You, sir, have demonstrated none.
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		<title>by: Jim Peterson</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/12/oreilly-guest-bleats-about-the-female-agenda/#comment-500326</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 10:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/12/oreilly-guest-bleats-about-the-female-agenda/#comment-500326</guid>
					<description>[You seem to have confused the right to say what you want without restriction with a non-existent right to speak to a particular person at the particular moment you choose.]

This right exists already with total strangers on the street. A woman can indicate at that moment that she does not wish to be further spoken to by that particular man, but he did have the initial right to say hello or ask anything else deemed by local customs to be polite and non-threatening.

Nobody ever got arrested anywhere for saying hello.

This right especially exists when the other person is a woman who has asked that any and all men contact her by phone (if a woman is phone stalked on her special dating cell phone, she could always buy a new number for $5 - it is her choice how much risk she will put on a phone number becoming unusable).



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>[You seem to have confused the right to say what you want without restriction with a non-existent right to speak to a particular person at the particular moment you choose.]</p>
	<p>This right exists already with total strangers on the street. A woman can indicate at that moment that she does not wish to be further spoken to by that particular man, but he did have the initial right to say hello or ask anything else deemed by local customs to be polite and non-threatening.</p>
	<p>Nobody ever got arrested anywhere for saying hello.</p>
	<p>This right especially exists when the other person is a woman who has asked that any and all men contact her by phone (if a woman is phone stalked on her special dating cell phone, she could always buy a new number for $5 - it is her choice how much risk she will put on a phone number becoming unusable).
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		<title>by: Jim Peterson</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/12/oreilly-guest-bleats-about-the-female-agenda/#comment-500315</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/12/oreilly-guest-bleats-about-the-female-agenda/#comment-500315</guid>
					<description>If two people want to meet each other in real time (as in right now), the US government has zero right to interfere.

If foreign women say they want no delay, the US government cannot morally gainsay this desire by implying they know better how to secure their welfare.

IMBRA has nothing to do with stopping men who want instant sex because there is no instant sex potential in the sites affected. IMBRA does not affect the many sex-dating sites nor does it stop Americans who go to the thousands of brothels in various countries around the world (very few in Russia by the way except maybe the Safari Club in Moscow).

And, on top of that, and as a separate issue, American men actually DO have the right to visit prostitutes in other countries as well as Nevada. Nevada can take away that right and other countries can individually take that right but the US government cannot.

Regarding the &quot;3 murdered brides&quot;: if 6000 American brides are murdered per year, then a total of 3 foreign Internet brides in 15 years is indicative that it must be the SAFEST occupation to be a foreign Internet bride in the US.

Hillary Clinton's loss will be seen as a strike against the feminist wing of the Democratic Party.

I think Ted Kennedy is partly motivated in this way.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>If two people want to meet each other in real time (as in right now), the US government has zero right to interfere.</p>
	<p>If foreign women say they want no delay, the US government cannot morally gainsay this desire by implying they know better how to secure their welfare.</p>
	<p>IMBRA has nothing to do with stopping men who want instant sex because there is no instant sex potential in the sites affected. IMBRA does not affect the many sex-dating sites nor does it stop Americans who go to the thousands of brothels in various countries around the world (very few in Russia by the way except maybe the Safari Club in Moscow).</p>
	<p>And, on top of that, and as a separate issue, American men actually DO have the right to visit prostitutes in other countries as well as Nevada. Nevada can take away that right and other countries can individually take that right but the US government cannot.</p>
	<p>Regarding the &#8220;3 murdered brides&#8221;: if 6000 American brides are murdered per year, then a total of 3 foreign Internet brides in 15 years is indicative that it must be the SAFEST occupation to be a foreign Internet bride in the US.</p>
	<p>Hillary Clinton&#8217;s loss will be seen as a strike against the feminist wing of the Democratic Party.</p>
	<p>I think Ted Kennedy is partly motivated in this way.
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		<title>by: Ismone</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/12/oreilly-guest-bleats-about-the-female-agenda/#comment-500222</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/12/oreilly-guest-bleats-about-the-female-agenda/#comment-500222</guid>
					<description>Sorry, exactly what mainstream feminist organizations that you know of want to do anything to harm &quot;men's rights&quot;?  All we want is equality.  Political, social, and economic equality.  It is not that freakin' out there.

And more to the point, exactly what policies has Sen. Clinton ever endorsed that would benefit women at men's expense?

Unbelievable how out of touch with reality you lot are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Sorry, exactly what mainstream feminist organizations that you know of want to do anything to harm &#8220;men&#8217;s rights&#8221;?  All we want is equality.  Political, social, and economic equality.  It is not that freakin&#8217; out there.</p>
	<p>And more to the point, exactly what policies has Sen. Clinton ever endorsed that would benefit women at men&#8217;s expense?</p>
	<p>Unbelievable how out of touch with reality you lot are.
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		<title>by: Taylor Willoughby</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/12/oreilly-guest-bleats-about-the-female-agenda/#comment-500190</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>In defense of Marc Rudov, he is simply stating that he wouldn’t have a problem with Hillary Clinton being our president as long as she governs for all Americans.  

A feminist agenda on the other hand (if Hillary wants to promote this), would probably entail infringing on some of the civil rights of American men.  I think Mr. Rudov is concerned about that happening.  He simply wants our laws to treat people equally.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>In defense of Marc Rudov, he is simply stating that he wouldn’t have a problem with Hillary Clinton being our president as long as she governs for all Americans.  </p>
	<p>A feminist agenda on the other hand (if Hillary wants to promote this), would probably entail infringing on some of the civil rights of American men.  I think Mr. Rudov is concerned about that happening.  He simply wants our laws to treat people equally.
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		<title>by: louise</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/12/oreilly-guest-bleats-about-the-female-agenda/#comment-500036</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Gee, a man with a chicken fetish... it's the South Park Librarian! His plan worked perfectly; don't you see?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Gee, a man with a chicken fetish&#8230; it&#8217;s the South Park Librarian! His plan worked perfectly; don&#8217;t you see?
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