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		<title>by: Tapetum</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/11/one-stop-choadery-debunking/#comment-499165</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner! Kali nails it. The intended audience for this kind of tripe is only secondarily women. It's primarily a way of making the men (the same men who are &quot;Giving up on American Women&quot; I would imagine), feel better about how all the bitchez will be sorry for not marrying when they could.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner! Kali nails it. The intended audience for this kind of tripe is only secondarily women. It&#8217;s primarily a way of making the men (the same men who are &#8220;Giving up on American Women&#8221; I would imagine), feel better about how all the bitchez will be sorry for not marrying when they could.
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		<title>by: Mel</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/11/one-stop-choadery-debunking/#comment-499103</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>kmach, you are my hero.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>kmach, you are my hero.
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		<title>by: kmach</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/11/one-stop-choadery-debunking/#comment-499071</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;mythago
March 12, 2008 at 5:28 pm

If man is the hunter and woman is his game, what the heck incentive do the two of them have to move in together and raise kids?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

See, this is what's always confused me about the &quot;men are the hunter, women are the prey&quot; idea. For one thing, where do the females get food? After they've been fucked, and the caveman has gone roaming for the next target, do they starve? Do the resultant offspring starve? Because obviously the cavegirl doesn't have any predatory instincts herself - it's only a male trait. Also, doesn't a prey drive within the primitive male mind get confused over food and sex, if it's the same stalk-hunt mentality? Seems like bad evolutionary strategy to eat the thing you've just fucked - no offspring, no continuation of the caveman's DNA. It would make more sense if the female was the one who innately saw the male as prey - after coitus, there wouldn't really be any need for the male anymore. Don't some spiders and insects do this? 

So the ultimate evo-psych theory that I can piece together from the newspaper pop psychology interpretations of evo-psych research is: male stalks and captures prey. Prey is a twelve year old girl, who's just began menses, since that's the most desirable prey. She's probably a blonde, since that denotes youth. She fights a bit, since females have no innate sex drive, but doesn't fight too hard, because females are passive and nonaggressive, then gets fucked. Male either eats her or doesn't, I guess depending on how strong his predatory instinct is, and how hungry he is, and if she's left alive, she passively sits around eating whatever nuts and berries she can find at hand, and if she actually becomes pregnant (less likely than with older, less sought after prey, because fertility isn't at its peak immediately upon puberty) she gives birth, and if her underdeveloped body survives childbirth, this fistula-damaged prey and her baby sit around eating nuts and berries until the baby, if female, is old enough to be prey, or, if male, goes out and hunts for a female to impregnate. And thus we have evolved as the only species I can think of where the males are predators, and the females are prey. 

Or maybe it's just that the &quot;man=hunter, woman-prey&quot; idea is complete bullshit, and is just a lame excuse for things like male violence and why a guy wants to have control of the tv remote (and I've actually heard this one.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>mythago<br />
March 12, 2008 at 5:28 pm</p>
	<p>If man is the hunter and woman is his game, what the heck incentive do the two of them have to move in together and raise kids?</p></blockquote>
	<p>See, this is what&#8217;s always confused me about the &#8220;men are the hunter, women are the prey&#8221; idea. For one thing, where do the females get food? After they&#8217;ve been fucked, and the caveman has gone roaming for the next target, do they starve? Do the resultant offspring starve? Because obviously the cavegirl doesn&#8217;t have any predatory instincts herself - it&#8217;s only a male trait. Also, doesn&#8217;t a prey drive within the primitive male mind get confused over food and sex, if it&#8217;s the same stalk-hunt mentality? Seems like bad evolutionary strategy to eat the thing you&#8217;ve just fucked - no offspring, no continuation of the caveman&#8217;s DNA. It would make more sense if the female was the one who innately saw the male as prey - after coitus, there wouldn&#8217;t really be any need for the male anymore. Don&#8217;t some spiders and insects do this? </p>
	<p>So the ultimate evo-psych theory that I can piece together from the newspaper pop psychology interpretations of evo-psych research is: male stalks and captures prey. Prey is a twelve year old girl, who&#8217;s just began menses, since that&#8217;s the most desirable prey. She&#8217;s probably a blonde, since that denotes youth. She fights a bit, since females have no innate sex drive, but doesn&#8217;t fight too hard, because females are passive and nonaggressive, then gets fucked. Male either eats her or doesn&#8217;t, I guess depending on how strong his predatory instinct is, and how hungry he is, and if she&#8217;s left alive, she passively sits around eating whatever nuts and berries she can find at hand, and if she actually becomes pregnant (less likely than with older, less sought after prey, because fertility isn&#8217;t at its peak immediately upon puberty) she gives birth, and if her underdeveloped body survives childbirth, this fistula-damaged prey and her baby sit around eating nuts and berries until the baby, if female, is old enough to be prey, or, if male, goes out and hunts for a female to impregnate. And thus we have evolved as the only species I can think of where the males are predators, and the females are prey. </p>
	<p>Or maybe it&#8217;s just that the &#8220;man=hunter, woman-prey&#8221; idea is complete bullshit, and is just a lame excuse for things like male violence and why a guy wants to have control of the tv remote (and I&#8217;ve actually heard this one.)
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		<title>by: mythago</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/11/one-stop-choadery-debunking/#comment-499032</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I know an awful lot of corporate lawyers, and I've never had one say they don't have time for romance. They DO complain that the only potential partners they tend to meet are other corporate lawyers, but that's not exactly the &quot;you gave up love for your career!&quot; think Prager is jizzing about.

&lt;blockquote&gt;If man is the hunter and woman is his game, what the heck incentive do the two of them have to move in together and raise kids?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

None, unless the hunter controls all the food (bear with me here) and withholds it unless he gets a relationship. You know, men trading resources for sex. Oh...wait....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I know an awful lot of corporate lawyers, and I&#8217;ve never had one say they don&#8217;t have time for romance. They DO complain that the only potential partners they tend to meet are other corporate lawyers, but that&#8217;s not exactly the &#8220;you gave up love for your career!&#8221; think Prager is jizzing about.</p>
	<blockquote><p>If man is the hunter and woman is his game, what the heck incentive do the two of them have to move in together and raise kids?</p></blockquote>
	<p>None, unless the hunter controls all the food (bear with me here) and withholds it unless he gets a relationship. You know, men trading resources for sex. Oh&#8230;wait&#8230;.
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		<title>by: The Countess</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/11/one-stop-choadery-debunking/#comment-498987</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I use the hot water method of opening jars as well as the &quot;tap on the lid with a knife&quot; method. I do need the husband, but not for that kind of thing. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I use the hot water method of opening jars as well as the &#8220;tap on the lid with a knife&#8221; method. I do need the husband, but not for that kind of thing. <img src='http://pandagon.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: The Countess</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/11/one-stop-choadery-debunking/#comment-498985</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm one of the few people I know of who was lucky enough to have had two dream careers. My first dream career was when I worked in movies, TV, film, and stage. I was a gaffer (lighting), a prosthetic makeup artist, and a scenic artist. I was getting divorced at the time, but I already knew my current husband. Now, I'm in my second dream career as a sex, erotica, and erotic romance writer, and we're very happily married. So, yes, women can have a great career and a happy marriage at the same time.

One thing that might interest people here - The Count and I have talked about taking on a role reversal when I make enough money so that he can quit his job. He wants to be my wife, and I'd love it. I've always wanted a wife.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;m one of the few people I know of who was lucky enough to have had two dream careers. My first dream career was when I worked in movies, TV, film, and stage. I was a gaffer (lighting), a prosthetic makeup artist, and a scenic artist. I was getting divorced at the time, but I already knew my current husband. Now, I&#8217;m in my second dream career as a sex, erotica, and erotic romance writer, and we&#8217;re very happily married. So, yes, women can have a great career and a happy marriage at the same time.</p>
	<p>One thing that might interest people here - The Count and I have talked about taking on a role reversal when I make enough money so that he can quit his job. He wants to be my wife, and I&#8217;d love it. I&#8217;ve always wanted a wife.  <img src='http://pandagon.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: junk science</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/11/one-stop-choadery-debunking/#comment-498916</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;I prefer the “brute force” method of opening jars&lt;/i&gt;

Where I come from, &quot;brute force&quot; doesn't mean giving up, it means busting out the fucking hammer and licking the contents of the jar off the counter.

&lt;i&gt;Hmm, I wonder if the real target audience of this kind of tripe is an unwillingly single/divorced man who knows that if women didn’t have careers he would be married (to some sufficiently desperate woman).&lt;/i&gt;

Works for me. It seems a lot of men are happy or at least content living a fantasy about how miserable women must be without them rather than living real lives with other people. I wonder how much booze it takes to keep a person like that from slitting their wrists. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>I prefer the “brute force” method of opening jars</i></p>
	<p>Where I come from, &#8220;brute force&#8221; doesn&#8217;t mean giving up, it means busting out the fucking hammer and licking the contents of the jar off the counter.</p>
	<p><i>Hmm, I wonder if the real target audience of this kind of tripe is an unwillingly single/divorced man who knows that if women didn’t have careers he would be married (to some sufficiently desperate woman).</i></p>
	<p>Works for me. It seems a lot of men are happy or at least content living a fantasy about how miserable women must be without them rather than living real lives with other people. I wonder how much booze it takes to keep a person like that from slitting their wrists.
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		<title>by: Dianne</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/11/one-stop-choadery-debunking/#comment-498871</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>But why would anyone want to be married to someone who believes that you only stay married to them because you can't open  your own jars anyway? Seems like living alone would be preferable. Then again, I'm an introvert.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>But why would anyone want to be married to someone who believes that you only stay married to them because you can&#8217;t open  your own jars anyway? Seems like living alone would be preferable. Then again, I&#8217;m an introvert.
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		<title>by: Dianne</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/11/one-stop-choadery-debunking/#comment-498868</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I prefer the &quot;brute force&quot; method of opening jars: If I can't open one after 1-2 simple interventions (warm water, knocking it agains the table, etc), I go out and buy a new jar of whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I prefer the &#8220;brute force&#8221; method of opening jars: If I can&#8217;t open one after 1-2 simple interventions (warm water, knocking it agains the table, etc), I go out and buy a new jar of whatever.
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		<title>by: kali</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/03/11/one-stop-choadery-debunking/#comment-498739</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hmm, I wonder if the real target audience of this kind of tripe is an unwillingly single/divorced &lt;i&gt;man&lt;/i&gt; who knows that if women didn't have careers he would be married (to some sufficiently desperate woman). Because that's the only way in which the &quot;choose marriage instead of a career&quot; thing makes any sense; women are definitely enabled by careers not to choose &lt;i&gt;unpleasant&lt;/i&gt; marriages. So if you're an unpleasant guy, the idea that women are choosing careers over marriage might make some kind of sense to you. And the idea that they regret it later might make you feel good; all those bitches who rejected you will be sorry. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hmm, I wonder if the real target audience of this kind of tripe is an unwillingly single/divorced <i>man</i> who knows that if women didn&#8217;t have careers he would be married (to some sufficiently desperate woman). Because that&#8217;s the only way in which the &#8220;choose marriage instead of a career&#8221; thing makes any sense; women are definitely enabled by careers not to choose <i>unpleasant</i> marriages. So if you&#8217;re an unpleasant guy, the idea that women are choosing careers over marriage might make some kind of sense to you. And the idea that they regret it later might make you feel good; all those bitches who rejected you will be sorry.
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