Comments on: Has the Clinton team gone stark raving mad?

by: Alix

Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:38:09 +0000

I know I’m a little late on this thread, but might she be appealing to voters/delegates who are on the fence by giving them a non-choice choice. If they vote for Clinton, they are assured (by her VP comments) that they can have both Clinton and Obama. It does seem appealing for those of us who like both candidate. Plus, there is no way for Clinton to remain in the race and also say she’d be willing to just be VP. It’s not a good campaign strategy (assuming she can close the delegate gap).

by: louise

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:32:20 +0000

Boy, are HRC and BO tickled Spitzer announced that he is resigning on Monday today so neither has to continue to tip-toe around Geraldine’s continued rantings… plenty of schaudenfraude for the media and pundits right there.

by: Ms Kate

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:11:25 +0000

I think Ferraro was a token who needs to prove once and for all that she is a token. Either that, or she only succeeded in politics by negelecting her family to the point that her kids got seriously druggy.

I mean, if you trade in stereotypes, ya gotta expect some blowback here! (never mind that her husband wasn’t exactly present, either)

by: Kristen

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:54:47 +0000

Okay…why isn’t there more of shit storm surrounding her response…

“Any time anybody does anything that in any way pulls this campaign down and says let’s address reality and the problems we’re facing in this world, you’re accused of being racist, so you have to shut up,” she told the (Torrance, California) Daily Breeze. “Racism works in two different directions. I really think they’re attacking me because I’m white. How’s that?”

WTF???

by: louise

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:13:58 +0000

Ms Kate, I was floating the idea to spouse last night that if FL/MI aren’t allowed to be put into the Clinton column “as are”, we’ll see the idea of litigation to make it so come from her camp.

by: Ms Kate

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:47:22 +0000

whoops, the Clinton quote from Soopermouse was cut off:

“As soon as we have a nominee, we will be strongly united because the most important thing is to put a Democrat in the white house starting in January 2009. ”

Again, it is a nice quote - but read down this thread and you will find plenty of referenced statements where Clinton directly contradicts this statement - unless, of course, she assumes that SHE will be the nominee and that will make it all okay.

by: Ms Kate

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:44:33 +0000

Soopermouse, if only Clinton would actually walk that talk and enforce it in her team through solid leadership.

Please note the McCain-related quotes, above. These seem to indicate that she is a creature of immediate expedience, not firm conviction in this matter. She will say it when it is expedient to do so, but run entirely counter to it when she thinks it serves her purposes. Either she has no control over her team, campaign, and consultants on this matter or she chooses to let them continue to play “me first” politics as if all will be later forgiven.

Being the age that I am and raised where I was raised, I don’t consider that acceptable. It seems to be standard operating procedure in MA, CT, and NY, but I don’t like it and Obama is riding on the votes of a slew of others who don’t like it either.

by: Lisa

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:06:03 +0000

I think Senator Clinton’s goal is simply to irreparably damage Obama in the minds of white voters so badly that even if he wins the nom, he won’t win the general election.

I don’t know what she and her camp are thinking either. But whatever it is, it is not productive. She is starting to really make me angry.

by: louise

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:23:58 +0000

Or, as a newly minted member of the Dem party, am I seeing the Democrats taking the “safer route” and waiting until Obama’s won the nod? If that’s the case, no WONDER they’ve been labelled as spineless. Fuck.

by: louise

Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:21:45 +0000

Good links and points, clytemnestra…

But one point made to me that I’d like to share- there are folks stepping up to the podium and gabbing in support of Clinton, including Ferraro. (WOW, what a mess she is…) But-

Where are the heavy hitters for Obama? We know they exist, but why aren’t they standing up, voicing their support loudly, and laying into the Clintons (or now, Ferraro)? We see Obama handling it well by himself- but it does make me wonder what sort of support he’ll get later on.