Fitted just for you, Michelle.
The standard argument issued by professional anti-feminists is, “There’s no such thing as sexism anymore. Not really. A couple of slurs here and there, but what really matters is that women don’t have any pressures or obstacles on them anymore.” The irony in this is that their very existence proves otherwise. Conservative women who seek roles as leaders or pundits are largely stuck in the anti-feminist ghetto. Even though female columnists at Townhall are allowed to write about other things besides the evils of feminism, it seems they’ve got a 33% minimum requirement of feminist-bashing in order to talk about other things. I often think Phyllis Schlafly would have been happier peddling her strange brand of economic theory, but telling other women to step off and get into the kitchen was her meal ticket to even being allowed to have columns, radio shows, and organizational leadership.
To be fair, there’s not a whole lot of reasons outside of professional pride to get out of the ghetto. Anti-feminism often makes feminist writers grind our teeth in jealousy as we sit around in our used clothes and cheap shoes. You don’t have to be a clever writer, or smart, or anything really. If you have a pussy and are willing to argue that misogyny is the hip new thing girls are doing these days, then prepare to start writing yourself some checks. At this point, I’m required by law to quote this screamingly funny post by Dahlia Lithwick, who is almost enough reason for me to start reading The XX Factor:
[T]he Five Universal Commandments of Writing About Women:
1. It’s not sexism if it’s women trashing women.
2. Writing by women about women need not be held to the same critical or analytical standards as writing by men because—I suppose—we really are as stupid as Allen suggests.
3. No need for originality in pieces by women about women. Oprah, Celine, and Grey’s Anatomy never get old. Good times.
4. When all else fails, say the piece was meant to be funny. Then you can say that anyone who didn’t like it has no sense of humor.
5. Laugh all the way to the bank.
To be fair, I think if you’re young and hot (or just really skinny, a la Ann Coulter), you can make a space for yourself talking about non-girly topics as a conservative woman. Outside of the anti-feminist ghetto, you have the fantasy object ghetto—women who play up their looks so that the social malcontents on the right can momentarily delude themselves about the possibilities of bagging a hot chick by impressing her with your ability to pronounce “Islamofascistjihadliberalism”. It’s not much progress, but it’s something, and even Neanderthals have to inch their way towards the 21st century.
Michelle Malkin is an interesting character in the midst of all this. She’s never really been an anti-feminist basher, from what I can tell. I mean, she takes some minor, required potshots, but I always suspected she was uncomfortable with dismissing feminism, probably in no small part because she’s been the butt of some pretty sexist abuse from critics. When she was on the witch hunt against me, the one interesting thing I noticed was that she seemed largely uninterested in trying to tear me down with the “radical feminist” crap, which was basically a misstep, because, as Bill Donohue demonstrated, it’s easy to get the mainstream media to get all excited about tearing down someone who defends women’s rights. Malkin fits more into the fantasy object category, a fact that she’s willing to exploit often enough (with the cheerleading video), but I don’t know. She’s married and has kids. It’s always made her second tier in that category. As a leader in the heavily racist branch of conservatism, she really does strike me as someone who did break out of the ghetto to a large degree. I’m not praising her disgusting, racist self, but just observing that I’ve always thought of her as a bona fide exception to the rule.
But lately, she’s been slipping. Her stock is falling. She was run off Fox News. Most people suggest that her willingness to stalk a 12-year-old after he testified about how S-CHIP helped his family cover his medical bills after an accident was what did her in. I mean, she’s probably doing just fine financially, but it’s hard to be the queen bee one day and treated like a dirty secret the next.
So what does a desperate right wing female pundit do to rise her stock? Suck it up and start ranting about how all women not yourself need to shut the fuck up and get back in the kitchen.
The piece is unreadable, to the point where I think it might be one of the purported pieces written by her husband and published under her name. (A theory concocted after it was noted that there’s a discrepancy between the literate pieces Malkin writes and the unhinged rantings that she writes in a voice so different it seems not to be hers.) But no matter. It touches on all the important parts of a rowdy bit of misogynist hate speech:
- Making up some random new slur to call women based around the idea that the worst thing you can call a woman is a woman. In this piece, Hillary Clinton is called a “gyno-candidate”.
- Rile up the fears that women’s equality will be the ruin of men, an idea which makes sense to the mediocre pieces of shit who read conservative publications and know in their heart of hearts they’re coasting on privilege.
- Throw around a lot of terms that have no modern day usage outside of misogynist rants: barren, harridan, once-ripe, desiccative. All these terms show up in the first couple of sentences.
- Accuse feminists of not caring about Muslim women, but having a secret anti-white man agenda.
- Take a potshot at feminists for having sexualities (”their favorite contraceptive pills and abortions”), as if your wife, er, yourself didn’t probably control her/your own fertility with some of those favorite contraceptions. It’s not a good anti-feminist rant unless there’s enormous hypocrisy about sex thrown in.
- Equate a rigid, soulless masculinity with morality and accuse feminists of being the rot within.
This essay has all that, plus a reference to “bra-burning”! Well done, Michelle, though this piece strikes me as too discordant and weird for even your usual fare. But let’s face it, if you took all these elements and strung them into a conspiracy theory about how feminists are in cahoots with an army of underground elves to separate men from their testicles in the middle of the night, you’d probably get published, as long as there’s a female name on the byline so the editors can hide behind the “it’s not sexism if a lady wrote it” excuse.
I’d like to believe that it’s painful for Malkin to stoop to this tactic to get her right wing reputation back. After all, her very own blog Hot Air issued a scathing denouncement of Charlotte Allen’s editorial in the Washington Post that was basically the same shit, different paper. Sure, most of Malkin’s denouncements of sexism before she embraced it so whole-heartedly to get published in National Review were self-serving denouncements, but I could swear there was a time or two when I detected an actual flicker of real resentment towards sexism in her writings.
Oh well. She had to have known it would come to this. You gotta dance with them that brought you. It was only a matter of time before her right wing lords and master extracted their payment by demanding she do the Dance of the Self-Loathing Woman. I’d say I hope she doesn’t hate herself too much, and then I remember what an asshole she’s been in the past, and to me personally no less, and I have to say, I hope she’s crying her sorry ass to sleep every night over this last bit of her soul she’s sold.
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Michelle Malkin was never in the women’s ghetto. She was in the minority ghetto the entire time.
You don’t get out of either ghetto by riding on de nile.
She used to be a local columnist (to our shame) and she never could write all that well.
That was mostly lost in the head scratching and “WTF?”-ing, but really: crap writer.
I don’t understand how men can stand to hear their significant others spoken about in this way. If someone starts insinuating that my wife is stupid, I’m going to have something to say about it, and I don’t care if it’s a man or woman doing it. And this is not chivalry. Someone says it about my male friends and they get the same.
These men who will chuckle and nod as random strangers throw insults at their wives…who the hell are these people?
…..aannnnnddd, “screamingly funny”????? So not. The proper adjectives would be “obvious” and “weak”.
–Damn, just checked to make sure I wasn’t missing anything, and make that “weak to the TENTH power.”
I’ll tell ya, I don’t know how you can bring yourself to read such schlag. I mean, I’m glad that it gets duly reported on to the rest of us and all, cause that means I don’t have to read it myself. I’d probably have high blood pressure if I exposed myself to that crap all the time.
Matthew show, think about how you smile indulgently when a pet does something that shows you’re smarter. That’s how a lot of men would like to feel about women—superior, with evidence to reinforce the notion that your spot on top is deserved.
fall asleep reading half of her article. …
my sketchy take: Malkin seems like a person trapped in her skin, between two world. She feels that she has to keep proving it to the world. (sort of like that highschool girl who everybody make to say dumb thing while pushing her weaknesses.)
I don’t think she will ever figure it out how to put all her thought together without jumping from one identity to another. Hyper patriotism/conservatism vs the fact she has to reject her background. She will go crazy losing both and be tossed in the curb when she is not hot anymore. She know she is being used and what she says is screwing her good. The angst is going to explode sooner or later.
Steinem during Clinton campaign: Dumb. I predict she will sink her.
Hillary will lost EVERY SINGLE flag waving/center right-right voters. She would need to kiss every generals behind to prove she is not a damaged good. (ie. It’s gonna be Jane Fonda)
This ain’t post structuralist lit, when the hyper patriotism crew showing up.
Here I thought I was done with this damn hangover, and then I had to go and read that nonsense from Malkin. Yech!
I’d probably have high blood pressure if I exposed myself to that crap all the time.
I rarely read the bullshit articles either. Whenever I do, even the pre-filked ones, they send me into a depressed funk for the rest of the day. I have skin sewn of gossamer.
Sorry, I meant “pre-fisked.”
I love Dahlia Lithwick (and it’s a snark-free love). Looks like I’m not the only one wondering if I should get my gender checked since I’m a woman who doesn’t like any of the above.
(For the record, it would be Olbermann, Regina Spektor, and Pushing Daisies.)
(”their favorite contraceptive pills and abortions”)
“My Favorite Abortion.” Wasn’t that an early-’60s TV sitcom?
Mnemosyne — I heart Regina Spektor so hard.
I tend to agree with you Amanda, in the overall - it’s the reason that, while I find her right wing nutiness frustrating, there’s a core element of Malkin that “gets it.” I’d also point out that there’s a post up at her group site (Hot Air) that Ed Morrissey wrote that dismisses the Allen piece, and though Malkin herself has said nothing about Allen (itself sort of telling) she’s also let the Morrissey piece stand, which I think makes a point.
I agree the column on Steinem is a hash; it’s not her strongest piece of writing - she’s better when she’s, say excoriating the Bush Administration on its weak immigration enforcement, because she knows how to talk to her own side. But I tend to think that what she’s showing is a fairly traditional “third wave” notion of feminism in the Steinem piece: she likes the advantages the women’s movement has brought, but thinks the time of a Steinem has passed (a view, I’d point out, that a number of Obama supporting feminists share). She’s not nice about it (gynocide?) but she’s also, considering how shrill right wing antifeminist women can sound, she seems more muddled than shrieky.
Anyway, just a thought. I love Lithwick. Thanks for the link
Accuse feminists of not caring about Muslim women, but having a secret anti-white man agenda.
Your anti-white man agenda is no secret.
One of the first things I read by her fit neatly into the anti-feminist category. It ends, “The era of radical feminist sexual liberation has produced a generation of shameless skanks.” I sort of enjoyed reading it, because it’s fun to watch one’s enemies shake their fists in impotent rage.
But yeah, she’s more into attacking minorities from a minority POV than attacking women from a female POV. (internment book, immigration, anti-Muslim hate)
You’re clearly a good 50 IQ points ahead of your cohorts if you’ve managed to figure that out.
“Your anti-white man agenda is no secret.”
Bismarck, why limit your fantasy idea of Amanda to just hating white men? Shoot the works - Marcotz H8tz 411 Menz!!11!!!!1!!
On Topic…
If Malkin hedges her anti-feminism, might it be because she knows her honorary-man status is in more danger than the WASP’y female-kapos that populate most of the Reichwing?…
Yeah Amanda you should be prouder of your anti-overprivileged- mediocre- whiteboy agenda.
Neil the Ethical Werewolf March 7, 2008 at 7:39 pm
But yeah, she’s more into attacking minorities from a minority POV than attacking women from a female POV. (internment book, immigration, anti-Muslim hate) ”
easy to explain.
Her background I bet is conservative filipino. (ie. she couldn’t care less about japanese american-WWII, Islam-moro/etc)
From her point of view, there is no such thing as “asian” (common culture based on shared experience) . Japanese or Chinese, Latinos or whoever else are just different ethnicity. A fair game. Of course she then fails to consider public perception that she is asian and she probably should know just about anything about other asians. (vis a vis black/white cultural category.) That’s why her japanese interment book has the air of credibility. Despite her not being a japanese american or have family from that era. She has as much credibility as second generation jamaican writing about italian american underground culture in the 50’s.
I had a discussion with a friend wondering if she really believes what she writes or just a really clever hack/attack dog. (can’t decide…)
either way the system will grind her in the end. she has no base. She and her husband is inside the wingnut welfare system. (hubby is RAND economist.)
She seems pretty comfortable dismissing political correctness and hurling slurs.
She should have no problem with her party’s candidate doing the same. I hope her sense of humor holds up.
(McCain from 2000):
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/hongop.shtml
I think those shoes in a permanent sort of red would suffice for Malkin.
Dahlia Lithwick is one of the few reasons I still bother to access Slate. She almost makes up for the unspeakable Mickey Kaus and the professional concern troll Will Saletan.
Random trivia: Dahlia Lithwick and Austan Goolsbee were teammates on the Yale Parliamentary Debate team for 3 years.
Ha. This is one of the best blogs AND the best series of messages attached that I have read in a long time. I am now happy.
Your anti-white man agenda is no secret.
“anti-white man agenda” = whah whah wahhhhhh she says we ain’t automatically superior and entitled ‘cause we gots ding-a-lings ‘tween our legs. Wahhhhh, fair is no fair. Wahhhhh.
Amanda,
I know that, it just irritates the hell out of me. I would be ashamed of myself if I married someone stupider than me. Why bother with marriage at all, unless you contrive some sort of ego boost out of marrying a clueless person (who in all likelihood is just smokescreening you to mash their actual personalities into some prescribed role)? Way more trouble than it’s worth. Probably why they marry Republicans.
However, add those 50 IQ
[uh, what happened there?? So anyway…]
However, those 50 IQ points added to the cohorts’ IQ of 60 and, well, that and a buck fifty’ll get ‘em a cuppa coffee.
Your anti-white man agenda is no secret.
Neither is your defence of racism in the post about Rush Limbaugh. What’s your point?
I don’t understand how men can stand to hear their significant others spoken about in this way. If someone starts insinuating that my wife is stupid, I’m going to have something to say about it, and I don’t care if it’s a man or woman doing it. And this is not chivalry. Someone says it about my male friends and they get the same.
These men who will chuckle and nod as random strangers throw insults at their wives…who the hell are these people?
The matthew show:
Perhaps this is a different perspective, but I consider it more of a professional thing, like facing off against an adversarial lawyer, or contract negotiation, or similar. Malkin is a pro, even if she is having a bit of career trouble (gotta watch the bottom line, and - for shame! even Serious Journalists like Imus can lose a quarter’s worth of income).
Malkin isn’t screeching about my SO. She’s screeching about an archetype that barely exists. We talked about some of these silly screeds a long time ago, and I asked if they had any impact on her. She said that when she was bored, they were mildly amusing. I asked if she was concerned about political fallout, and her take was that, if not Malkin, then someone else. Who cares? There will be someone to play the role until people stop coming to the show. In the mean time, she said, she’d prefer to continue being a successful ballbuster, work towards our goal of getting our own financial freedom, and then we can do interesting things. I’m inclined to agree.
Infiltration does wonders. I won’t apologize for this goal, and yes, it is also self serving. We haven’t had help, _at all_, don’t want kids, and think that the metaphor of fishes rotting from the head can actually be a good thing, if used correctly.
These men who will chuckle and nod as random strangers throw insults at their wives…who the hell are these people?
I don’t know but my father has always felt that it was in his interests to cut me off at the knees. It seemed to be an issue of self esteem for him — the more I had, the less he felt was available to him. It’s a strange mindset, and no doubt lurks as the very impetus for patriarchal ‘thinking’ in the first place. I have learned a lot from his inability to repress the source of his motivations. It is quite clear to me, through my experience with my father, what patriarchy means.
I don’t know but my father has always felt that it was in his interests to cut me off at the knees. It seemed to be an issue of self esteem for him — the more I had, the less he felt was available to him.
Yes. That’s very true. Many men see a zero-sum game, somehow; I’m not sure why. It is pernicious and, well, evil, even if the people who do it sometimes aren’t.
I think it is a misapprehension of the modern world to see everything as zero-sum - much of it isn’t. That isn’t to say that much more of it isn’t - there are lots of examples of where it is in someone’s best interest to beat down someone else.
You really need to get over this Donahue thing and move on with your life. Even if you hadn’t been fired, the Edwards job would have been over a few months ago and you’d be stuck in North Carolina doing nothing right now. You should really count your blessings.
It’s time to move on, get a job, and start acting like an adult.
Michelle Malkin really is a complex right wing character. She kinda “gets it” when it relates to feminism, but then again, this is the same person who built her career on the “Internment is AWESOME!” argument. The thing is, she’s not above victim blaming. Her self-loathing is entirely different, I think…she railed against so-called “anchor babies” awhile back, but honestly, the circumstances of her birth lead one to think that she was one of those babies.
She still is “For me, but not for thee” kind of people, but her focus was always different from the other ‘Nuts. She fills the “anti-immigration” slot, but she’s been usurped by others in that respect, so now she only has misogyny left - a hard lesson to learn, but really, it’s about the only thing that she has left.
Just my two cents.
Seroj,
It’s time to move on, get a job, and start acting like an adult.
It is time for you to stop telling others how to live. Trust me, wild changes can happen. I don’t know anything about political engagements, but I suspect even if our hosts and wider-hosts don’t have them, lots of interesting things might be available to them. I don’t know if you’re attempting to say that participating in politics is not an ‘adult job’, or what, but if so, that’s really amusing.
-j, building “real jobs” for 7 people, all of us Obama fans.
That Lithwick thing: really??? You guys really find it funny???
I found it tedious and obvious. (I’m only posting again because I’m flabbergasted that it’s considered good.)
Why is the slut in this picture showing her ankles and legs? Where are her petticoats??
“It’s time to move on, get a job, and start acting like an adult.”
seroj translated:
“It’s time to do what you were born to do: Get your feminazi ass married, start having white babies, and shut your commie-pinko mouth. And fix me a goddam sandwich…”
“Why is the slut in this picture showing her ankles and legs?”
Women (and furniture) do not have “legs”, they have “limbs”…
“You really need to get over this Donahue thing and move on with your life. Even if you hadn’t been fired, the Edwards job would have been over a few months ago and you’d be stuck in North Carolina doing nothing right now. You should really count your blessings.
It’s time to move on, get a job, and start acting like an adult. ”
You inspire me. Actually, you inspire me to remember fondly my dad, who passed away last year (still miss him AWFULLY!). Now, my dad was no sophisticated nor erudite dude, but he had a certain earthy wisdom that he periodically offered up to me during my growing years, which I have honestly found to be invaluable as an adult. It ain’t deep nor Freudian, but being as you clearly enjoy offering advice to others, I know you’re really interested in the advice offered by others as well to persons in life situations that they find difficult to overcome. For instance, what you really are reminding me of here is my dear dad’s advice about those who give another person unsolicited, free advice. Dad, you’re on!
“Consider the source.”
“What you get is worth about as much as what you paid for it.”
Thanks Dad! As usual, you hit the nail on the head. ‘Nuff said.
Throw around a lot of terms that have no modern day usage outside of misogynist rants: barren, harridan, once-ripe, desiccative.
Dessicate is also a really useful spell against water elementals!
D&D: increasing the use of uncommon words since 1974.
“D&D: increasing the use of uncommon words since 1974.”
http://xkcd.com/393/
Godspeed, Gary Gygax.
However, those 50 IQ points added to the cohorts’ IQ of 60 and, well, that and a buck fifty’ll get ‘em a cuppa coffee.
Pretty much, yeah.
(slaps forehead) D’oh!! Of course… Thanks for clarifying, MikeEss.
Those are really cute tap shoes. Anyone know who makes ‘em?
I have a pair just like those made by Capezio.
Eric, Rejector of Memes
March 8, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Those are really cute tap shoes. Anyone know who makes ‘em?
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http://www.jaysdancewear.com/tap.html
Your anti-white man agenda is no secret.
I enjoy telling the white man I share my life with that the internets say I hate him. His reaction is always, always stunned.
It’s time to move on, get a job, and start acting like an adult.
You’re projecting. I have moved on, I’ve been an adult, and I do have a job. But you, on the other hand, are an overgrown child who trolls blogs because he can’t find anything better to do, and has a black center of hate at his soul that keeps him alive in lieu of a real flesh-based heart.
“It’s time to do what you were born to do: Get your feminazi ass married, start having white babies, and shut your commie-pinko mouth. And fix me a goddam sandwich…”
Hey, it’s not like they were fucking with a man’s livelihood! That would be unforgivable.
Malkin is in financial trouble over at HotAir, the reason she beefed up her personal blog with all the ad clicks etc. She lost Bryon Preston, one of her lead bloogers and the one that was there with her from day 1. He left to be a producer on Laura Ingrahma’s radio show. From what we can surmise he left abruptly, never even bothered to say good bye to his readers.
What really did her in was taking out those paid Google ads attacking Geraldo, and Google pulled them down after someone over at Faux saw them. Faux was not happy about it, she was canned from Billo, which clearly paid the bills/dues at HotAir. The site has been running in the red sice it’s inception.
This is explained in detail:
http://michellemalkinisanidiot.com/?p=407
She blew it, got to big for her britches in that world she lives in and the good news is it seems to be a slow slide downward into oblivion and beyond.
Rather than psychoanalyze Michelle Malkin to discover her motives for writing what she does, maybe it should be considered that she finds the arguments that support the feminist agenda unconvincing.
“I have moved on, I’ve been an adult, and I do have a job.”
If you’ve moved on, then why are you STILL whining about Donahue on this very post even a year later? The move on part was meant kindly. It’s pointless to continue to blame others for our own failures. However, it’s completely self-defeating to hold onto that pain for this long. The Edwards job would have been over by now anyway, but you are still keeping Donahue a part of your life. It’s just not healthy.
Blogging for free is a job? For a teenager maybe.
Blogging for free is a job?
Trolling blogs apparently is, considering how much time some of you guys spend doing it. There must be some material gain.
If you’ve moved on, then why are you STILL whining about Donahue on this very post even a year later?
Because Donohue is a bad person who has yet to be punished for his evils. Amanda calling him out on this is not much different than the Brown and Goldman families continuing to go after O.J. Simpson.
Let’s hope they paid her for the article…LOL.
Why this woman gets press, I have no idea. Just goes to show how desperate the MSM really is these days.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/custom/altoday/bal-al.malkin09mar09,0,32567.story?page=1&track=rss
But then again it is the entertainment section, how ironic that she ended up there. LOL
I enjoy telling the white man I share my life with that the internets say I hate him. His reaction is always, always stunned.
And I am sure that some of your best friends are Catholics.
“And I am sure that some of your best friends are Catholics.”
…and I’m sure some of your best friends are feminists, not that they would ever tell you. It’s obvious that you don’t actually bother to READ Pandagon, because you seem just as pig ignorant as always…
Bismarck, are you not capable of recognizing the difference between The Patriarchy - a feature of the culture we all live in that systematically oppresses women, people of color, and LGBT people - and “white males”?
White males are the least oppressed of all groups of humans today. They may be feared by many, they may be hated by some, they may be despised by some, but they are certainly not oppressed.
As I reminded you above - not that it actually does any good - just because you’ve constructed a fantasy Amanda that Hates White Males that doesn’t make it true. Not any more than Bill Donohue’s fantasy Amanda who Hates All Catholics.
Bismarck, you need to actually read and understand what is written here before you comment. If not, you will continue to look like an ass to everyone else…
Not any more than Bill Donohue’s fantasy Amanda who Hates All Catholics.
Not all Catholics, only those who actually believe that stuff.
Bismarck,
“only those who actually believe that stuff”. Very interesting words. Very similar to those used to silence Galileo Galilei: “You don’t believe in geocentrism, therefore you’re not a true believer!”
OJ Simpson was INNOCENT, Ben. You racist bastard.
Ben,
Director of Research for the Catholic League, Robert Lockwood wrote in 2000:
Galileo has become an all-encompassing trump card, played whether the discussion is over science, abortion, gay rights, legalized pornography, or simply as a legitimate reason for anti-
Catholicism itself.
The Galileo controversy is too complex to address here.
I suggest that you read the entire article that can be found at: http://www.catholicleague.org/rer.php?topic=The+Crusades+and+the+Inquisition&id=83
Your intolerance is showing.
the ideas that underpin the feminist movement are called HISTORY!
Short MikeEss: Waaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh Waaaaaaaahhhhhhhh
If you only read our stuff closely enough, waaaahhhh, you’d realize what nice and wonderful people we are, waaaahhhh.
We don’t hate men, or crackers, or catholics, or fundies, or rethuglicans. We just spend 20 hours a day writing ABOUT how much we hate them. There is a HUGE difference there, Bismarck.
“Short MikeEss: Waaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh Waaaaaaaahhhhhhhh”
kevin translated: When somebody calls bullshit on my/ Bismarck’s/ seroj’s/ Bejamin’s/ anybody’s claims that Amanda knee-jerk-hates all men/ crackers/ catholics/ fundies/ rethugs then I have to stick my
noseass into the fray to defend the attacks on Amanda, or else The Patriarchy will come crashing down around us.Dudes, give it up and get a life…
Bismarck,
The Catholic League is not part of the Roman Catholic Church. It’s a rogue, far-right organization run by a megalomaniac. So, why should I pay mind to them?
Oh wait, that’s right. If I have the audacity to disagree with Mr. Donohue, that makes me “intolerant”.
“Oh wait, that’s right. If I have the audacity to disagree with Mr. Donohue, that makes me “intolerant”.”
Pretty much. But your point would be stronger if you EVER had anything positive to say about Catholics, or crackers, or Christians, or males, or Rethuglicans, or Fundies.
You see, it’s not what these groups do that bothers you. It’s what they are.
And that pretty much defines you as a bigot.
You’re projecting. I have moved on, I’ve been an adult, and I do have a job. But you, on the other hand, are an overgrown child who trolls blogs because he can’t find anything better to do, and has a black center of hate at his soul that keeps him alive in lieu of a real flesh-based heart.
This is awesome.
But your point would be stronger if you EVER had anything positive to say about Catholics, or crackers, or Christians, or males, or Rethuglicans, or Fundies.
Seriously, Amanda. Why can’t you point out that Rethuglicans sometimes kill kittens relatively painlessly before they eat them? What crass intolerance.
I know there’s no chance you’d ever say anything good about poor white people or males, so I’m not even going to bother going there.
kevin,
to be honest, I can’t tell if you’re trolling or if you’re so good at sarcasm that you fooled me…
“But your point would be stronger if you EVER had anything positive to say about Catholics, or crackers, or Christians, or males, or Rethuglicans, or Fundies.
The terms “cracker” and “Rethuglican” do not belong with the other terms.
I know many Catholics/Christians/males/Fundies who are decent, respectable (if misguided) individuals. I would guess that most Pandagonians could say the same.
“Cracker”, in any usage I’ve at Pandagon, is a specific term referring to knee-jerk racist white men. No one can credibly argue that holding such people in contempt is wrong.
Similarly, “Rethuglican” is a term referring to people who use the name “Republican” to disguise what they actually are and what they actually do. These people believe in the police state, want a
“unitary executive”king, recognize no right to privacy, believe there is no area where government may not intrude - especially in matters of sexuality, think torture is great, love government spending as long as the money ends up in cronies’ pockets - in short, they have nothing to do with any reasonable definition of “Republican” that was in use before the last 30-40 years. People like that do not deserve respect either.So kevin, if you’re a cracker and/or a Rethuglican, go straight to hell. If not, you need some serious therapy…
Your facts need work, Mike.
Mnemosyne often uses the term cracker to refer to white rural voters. I assume she uses the term because she, like many liberals, looks down on the poor white “trash” who live outside of our cities. BTW, calling people crackers is amazingly ineffective at convincing them to vote for your candidate.
MikeEss always uses the term rethuglican, to the exclusion of any other term. I assume it’s because he wants to lose every argument to Godwin’s law, and because he’s not one for the finer distinctions of meaning.
Pam always uses the term fundie, presumably because she hates them.
Long comments!
Three words: Right on, Amanda!
Mnemosyne often uses the term cracker to refer to white rural voters. I assume she uses the term because she, like many liberals, looks down on the poor white “trash” who live outside of our cities.
As a matter of fact, I’m very liberal and don’t live in a big city. I’m in a town of population 10,000, so draw your own conclusions.
BTW, calling people crackers is amazingly ineffective at convincing them to vote for your candidate.
You’re doing no better.
I have a strange doubt that you even know what Godwin’s Law is. (most people don’t, actually, they only know the implications of it and assume that it’s the same thing).
That term has been used for a while now. It’s short hand for fundamentalist. The use of the term has nothing to do with hate.
“Mnemosyne often uses the term cracker to refer to white rural voters.”
I’ll let Mnemosyne explain her use of the term, but it’s generally understood that “cracker” refers to white (usually poor) racists, not just poor white people.
MikeEss always uses the term rethuglican, to the exclusion of any other term.
Don’t really read here much, do you? If you did, you’d recognize that Reichwing is my favorite derisive term for Rightwing Authoritarian Cultists.
BTW, Godwin’s Law only refers to the probability of invoking fascism/Nazis/Hitler, not that doing so invalidates someone argument. In many cases, especially as the Reichwing has become more bolder in recent decades, the comparison is very apt.
“Pam always uses the term fundie, presumably because she hates them.”
WTF? How is “fundie” a term of hatred? I guarantee that Pam does not hate people simply because they are christian fundamentalists. (I seriously doubt she actually “hates” anyone at all). Pam, and the rest of us, is upset and disappointed that many followers of fundamentalist christianity are intolerant of other races, other religions, and especially in Pam’s case, other orientations.
Even if “hate” were involved, perveyers of intolerance need not, and should not, be tolerated…
My bad. Reichwing is what I was thinking about. Thanks. It makes you look even worse.
“Reichwing is what I was thinking about. Thanks. It makes you look even more prescient.”
Minor edit…
Isn’t kevin the one who’s in high school and thinks public school teachers get paid too much? It’s hard to tell the mouth-breathers apart sometimes.
fundie cracker rethuglicans can all go to hell.