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		<title>by: zuzu</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/24/what-does-sex-have-to-do-with-getting-married-or-making-babies/#comment-494256</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You have to wonder how many women are marrying men urging them to wear something sexy to the wedding. Me, I wouldn’t want any dudes in the fam checking out any cleavage except toe cleavage. Weirds me out to think of wearing something sexy and revealing while hugging my grandfather…. Ick. But this is definitely a taste issue, not a moral issue.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, god, that reminds me of watching my cousin's wedding video with my grandparents (none of us had made it to the wedding).  Her uncle from her mother's side shot it, and there were an awful lot of lingering shots of her cleavage.  During the cake-cutting, the camera parked itself right between her breasts the whole time.  It was... uncomfortable, to say the least. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>You have to wonder how many women are marrying men urging them to wear something sexy to the wedding. Me, I wouldn’t want any dudes in the fam checking out any cleavage except toe cleavage. Weirds me out to think of wearing something sexy and revealing while hugging my grandfather…. Ick. But this is definitely a taste issue, not a moral issue.</p></blockquote>
	<p>Oh, god, that reminds me of watching my cousin&#8217;s wedding video with my grandparents (none of us had made it to the wedding).  Her uncle from her mother&#8217;s side shot it, and there were an awful lot of lingering shots of her cleavage.  During the cake-cutting, the camera parked itself right between her breasts the whole time.  It was&#8230; uncomfortable, to say the least.
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		<title>by: Erika</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/24/what-does-sex-have-to-do-with-getting-married-or-making-babies/#comment-494196</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'd also like to express my aversion to tramp stamps and ass cleavage.  It's more of an objection to trashiness vs. sluttiness.

That said.  I love the dress on the left.  Take the frills off, put it in any other color than white, and I'd have that hanging in my closet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;d also like to express my aversion to tramp stamps and ass cleavage.  It&#8217;s more of an objection to trashiness vs. sluttiness.</p>
	<p>That said.  I love the dress on the left.  Take the frills off, put it in any other color than white, and I&#8217;d have that hanging in my closet.
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		<title>by: vitaminC</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/24/what-does-sex-have-to-do-with-getting-married-or-making-babies/#comment-494188</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;Is it okay to think that a dress that dips down below the buttcrack sounds really trashy, wedding or not?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I think this gets at the heart of the NYT style critique in general--it's as much about class as it is about gender. NYT style readers and writers are just as likely to sneer at the lack of old-fashioned upper-crust styling on these dresses as their sexiness. Not totally disagreeing with y'all, just saying there's more to it than sexism...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote cite=""><p>Is it okay to think that a dress that dips down below the buttcrack sounds really trashy, wedding or not?</p></blockquote>
	<p>I think this gets at the heart of the NYT style critique in general&#8211;it&#8217;s as much about class as it is about gender. NYT style readers and writers are just as likely to sneer at the lack of old-fashioned upper-crust styling on these dresses as their sexiness. Not totally disagreeing with y&#8217;all, just saying there&#8217;s more to it than sexism&#8230;
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		<title>by: Phoenician in a time of Romans</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/24/what-does-sex-have-to-do-with-getting-married-or-making-babies/#comment-494179</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;More than 2/3rds of Puritans were pregnant at the wedding, if our historical records are to be believed.&lt;/i&gt;

My God - that's horrendous.  How on earth did they fit them all into the reception?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>More than 2/3rds of Puritans were pregnant at the wedding, if our historical records are to be believed.</i></p>
	<p>My God - that&#8217;s horrendous.  How on earth did they fit them all into the reception?
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		<title>by: deep6</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/24/what-does-sex-have-to-do-with-getting-married-or-making-babies/#comment-494171</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>#1 is beautiful, but seems more Arwen-Lord-of-the-Rings than modern wedding.  #2 scares me.  I bet it's much worse straight on than from the side.  You don't really need a bouquet with that one.... Just cup your hands under the satin explosion and you're all set.  #3 is fabulous for the International Latin Ballroom Dancing competition, though that hat is a major faux pas.

You have to wonder how many women are marrying men urging them to wear something sexy to the wedding.  Me, I wouldn't want any dudes in the fam checking out any cleavage except toe cleavage.  Weirds me out to think of wearing something sexy and revealing while hugging my grandfather....  Ick.  But this is definitely a taste issue, not a moral issue.

Diane Sawyer's a tool.  It amazes me that she graduated from Wellesley.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>#1 is beautiful, but seems more Arwen-Lord-of-the-Rings than modern wedding.  #2 scares me.  I bet it&#8217;s much worse straight on than from the side.  You don&#8217;t really need a bouquet with that one&#8230;. Just cup your hands under the satin explosion and you&#8217;re all set.  #3 is fabulous for the International Latin Ballroom Dancing competition, though that hat is a major faux pas.</p>
	<p>You have to wonder how many women are marrying men urging them to wear something sexy to the wedding.  Me, I wouldn&#8217;t want any dudes in the fam checking out any cleavage except toe cleavage.  Weirds me out to think of wearing something sexy and revealing while hugging my grandfather&#8230;.  Ick.  But this is definitely a taste issue, not a moral issue.</p>
	<p>Diane Sawyer&#8217;s a tool.  It amazes me that she graduated from Wellesley.
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		<title>by: Demirep</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/24/what-does-sex-have-to-do-with-getting-married-or-making-babies/#comment-494157</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I have no problem with more fashion-forward wedding dresses.  I can see that if I planned on having a religious rather than civil ceremony where that might be a problem.     

(I notice that lalouve has just made a similar comment, and others probably.)

Since when do authors require moral authority to write anything?  How is sex immoral?  I would like to know why Diane Sawyer seems to think she has the moral authority to make such inquiries.  Fuck her indeed.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I have no problem with more fashion-forward wedding dresses.  I can see that if I planned on having a religious rather than civil ceremony where that might be a problem.     </p>
	<p>(I notice that lalouve has just made a similar comment, and others probably.)</p>
	<p>Since when do authors require moral authority to write anything?  How is sex immoral?  I would like to know why Diane Sawyer seems to think she has the moral authority to make such inquiries.  Fuck her indeed.
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		<title>by: lalouve</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/24/what-does-sex-have-to-do-with-getting-married-or-making-babies/#comment-494115</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Personally, I like wedding dresses to be, well, modest, because I like clothing worn in a church to be modest. If they're not marrying in church, I really don't care.
I'm getting married in a few months, and i'll be wearing a particularly weird shade of green. It suits me much better than white, and why would I want to pay for a dress I can only wear once anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Personally, I like wedding dresses to be, well, modest, because I like clothing worn in a church to be modest. If they&#8217;re not marrying in church, I really don&#8217;t care.<br />
I&#8217;m getting married in a few months, and i&#8217;ll be wearing a particularly weird shade of green. It suits me much better than white, and why would I want to pay for a dress I can only wear once anyway?
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		<title>by: mnemosyne</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/24/what-does-sex-have-to-do-with-getting-married-or-making-babies/#comment-494113</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>As usual, Rod is misinterpreting the purpose of the white dress in the modern American wedding.  It's about conspicuous consumption, and God forbid you should try to opt out of that.  Some people were indignant that I bought my very nice silk organza dress on the internet for $300 from someone who bought it and changed her mind.  Didn't I &lt;i&gt;know&lt;/i&gt; that I was supposed to spend more on my gown than on anything else in the whole wedding?

One acquaintance of mine not only bought the insanely expensive wedding dress, she bought a pair of Jimmy Choo shoes with the express intention of never wearing them again.  WTF is up with that?  I may not have worn my wedding dress a third time (yet), but I've worn my bustier and shoes several times since the wedding, because they're comfortable and I like them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>As usual, Rod is misinterpreting the purpose of the white dress in the modern American wedding.  It&#8217;s about conspicuous consumption, and God forbid you should try to opt out of that.  Some people were indignant that I bought my very nice silk organza dress on the internet for $300 from someone who bought it and changed her mind.  Didn&#8217;t I <i>know</i> that I was supposed to spend more on my gown than on anything else in the whole wedding?</p>
	<p>One acquaintance of mine not only bought the insanely expensive wedding dress, she bought a pair of Jimmy Choo shoes with the express intention of never wearing them again.  WTF is up with that?  I may not have worn my wedding dress a third time (yet), but I&#8217;ve worn my bustier and shoes several times since the wedding, because they&#8217;re comfortable and I like them.
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		<title>by: Caren, Creator of Animorphic Pancakes</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/24/what-does-sex-have-to-do-with-getting-married-or-making-babies/#comment-494109</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The first dress reminds me of one of the choices from &quot;Four Weddings and a Funeral&quot;, the sexy one where Hugh Grant says &quot;You're not serious&quot; and Andie McDowell replies &quot;No. But maybe next time!&quot;

As for tattoos...I could never imagine something I'd want on my body for the rest of my life.  And the armbands are going to look so funny when folks are in their 70s and wrinkly.

Worst of all, in the medical establishment's ever-widening &quot;things to punish pregnant women for b/c they are the only ones who still listen to us&quot; tramp stamps are a 'reason' to refuse to give epidurals.  heaven forbid some of that ink get into the spinal fluid.

Has that ever happened?

But it could!  So if you were a slut in your 20s and got a stamp, you can just SUFFER through the delivery.  Although I bet they still give you an epidural should things go bad, and you need an emergency C-section.

But maybe not.  Maybe anesthetic-free surgery is the proper punishment for slut.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>The first dress reminds me of one of the choices from &#8220;Four Weddings and a Funeral&#8221;, the sexy one where Hugh Grant says &#8220;You&#8217;re not serious&#8221; and Andie McDowell replies &#8220;No. But maybe next time!&#8221;</p>
	<p>As for tattoos&#8230;I could never imagine something I&#8217;d want on my body for the rest of my life.  And the armbands are going to look so funny when folks are in their 70s and wrinkly.</p>
	<p>Worst of all, in the medical establishment&#8217;s ever-widening &#8220;things to punish pregnant women for b/c they are the only ones who still listen to us&#8221; tramp stamps are a &#8216;reason&#8217; to refuse to give epidurals.  heaven forbid some of that ink get into the spinal fluid.</p>
	<p>Has that ever happened?</p>
	<p>But it could!  So if you were a slut in your 20s and got a stamp, you can just SUFFER through the delivery.  Although I bet they still give you an epidural should things go bad, and you need an emergency C-section.</p>
	<p>But maybe not.  Maybe anesthetic-free surgery is the proper punishment for slut.
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		<title>by: Antahkarana</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>This officially makes *most* Hindu wedding dresses slutty.  Is that stomach I see? Woo hoo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>This officially makes *most* Hindu wedding dresses slutty.  Is that stomach I see? Woo hoo!
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