Comments on: ‘Bidenizing’ Obama, health care — and whopper of a laughfest at WND http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/19/bidenizing-obama-health-care-and-whopper-of-a-laughfest-at-wnd/ Just another WordPress weblog Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:49:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: Mnemosyne http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/19/bidenizing-obama-health-care-and-whopper-of-a-laughfest-at-wnd/#comment-492528 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:24:31 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/19/bidenizing-obama-health-care-and-whopper-of-a-laughfest-at-wnd/#comment-492528 <i>I highly doubt the Republicans need to search the comments of this blog to come up with attacks on Obama.</i> And yet the "Obama as cult leader" meme that started on the liberal blogs <a href="http://mediamatters.org/items/200802150018?f=h_latest" rel="nofollow">is now in the MSM</a>. You'd almost think they picked it up from somewhere, wouldn't you? I highly doubt the Republicans need to search the comments of this blog to come up with attacks on Obama.

And yet the “Obama as cult leader” meme that started on the liberal blogs is now in the MSM. You’d almost think they picked it up from somewhere, wouldn’t you?

]]> by: Hector B. http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/19/bidenizing-obama-health-care-and-whopper-of-a-laughfest-at-wnd/#comment-492522 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:11:45 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/19/bidenizing-obama-health-care-and-whopper-of-a-laughfest-at-wnd/#comment-492522 I can't remember now; did patrick footnote his JFK, FDR, MLK, and TJ quotes? How about that "Where's the Beef" guy -- did he credit J. Walter Thompson or whoever came up with that Wendy's campaign? I can’t remember now; did patrick footnote his JFK, FDR, MLK, and TJ quotes? How about that “Where’s the Beef” guy — did he credit J. Walter Thompson or whoever came up with that Wendy’s campaign?

]]> by: MikeEss http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/19/bidenizing-obama-health-care-and-whopper-of-a-laughfest-at-wnd/#comment-492510 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:28:24 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/19/bidenizing-obama-health-care-and-whopper-of-a-laughfest-at-wnd/#comment-492510 <i>"(exception given to MikeEss, who is a friend; he can use E’s in all of his speeches…)"</i> Thanks, louise. I was getting worried there for a second... :) “(exception given to MikeEss, who is a friend; he can use E’s in all of his speeches…)”

Thanks, louise. I was getting worried there for a second… :)

]]> by: louise http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/19/bidenizing-obama-health-care-and-whopper-of-a-laughfest-at-wnd/#comment-492508 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:21:54 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/19/bidenizing-obama-health-care-and-whopper-of-a-laughfest-at-wnd/#comment-492508 lou, my teachers years ago would have said that stringing a bunch of quotes from history to make a report was a form of plagerism! Was credit to the correct authors given?? That's it- I now declare ownership of every word with an E in it and anyone who uses a word with an E in it w/o my expressed written consent has stolen from me. So there! :) (exception given to MikeEss, who is a friend; he can use E's in all of his speeches...) Hey, very similar to what Duval said regarding Obama! Neat how this sort of lunacy comes around full-circle some days. Is there any real news out there today, like the Obama/McCain "pride in America" brouhaha? lou, my teachers years ago would have said that stringing a bunch of quotes from history to make a report was a form of plagerism! Was credit to the correct authors given??

That’s it- I now declare ownership of every word with an E in it and anyone who uses a word with an E in it w/o my expressed written consent has stolen from me. So there! :)

(exception given to MikeEss, who is a friend; he can use E’s in all of his speeches…) Hey, very similar to what Duval said regarding Obama! Neat how this sort of lunacy comes around full-circle some days.

Is there any real news out there today, like the Obama/McCain “pride in America” brouhaha?

]]> by: lou http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/19/bidenizing-obama-health-care-and-whopper-of-a-laughfest-at-wnd/#comment-492501 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:55:04 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/19/bidenizing-obama-health-care-and-whopper-of-a-laughfest-at-wnd/#comment-492501 <i>I don’t have to think Obama is the enemy to know that this sort of intellectual laziness is a boon to Republicans.</i> Ah yes, the "intellectually lazy" accusation, generally brought against black politicians of all stripes. Code word much, Columbia? Speech writers recycle lines all the time when they move from political job to political job so I guess politicians who've shared speech writers better watch out! And stringing a bunch of quotes from history with the catch phrase 'just words' is not unique thoughts written on paper, but rhetorical flourishes, imo. How do you attribute rhetorical flourishes? About the dialogue on Tucker Carlson, I watched Clinton do the same thing with George Stephanopoulos. He asked her the question about garnishing wages three times and she kept deflecting the question instead of giving a yes or no. It was frustrating to watch. I don’t have to think Obama is the enemy to know that this sort of intellectual laziness is a boon to Republicans.
Ah yes, the “intellectually lazy” accusation, generally brought against black politicians of all stripes. Code word much, Columbia? Speech writers recycle lines all the time when they move from political job to political job so I guess politicians who’ve shared speech writers better watch out!

And stringing a bunch of quotes from history with the catch phrase ‘just words’ is not unique thoughts written on paper, but rhetorical flourishes, imo. How do you attribute rhetorical flourishes?

About the dialogue on Tucker Carlson, I watched Clinton do the same thing with George Stephanopoulos. He asked her the question about garnishing wages three times and she kept deflecting the question instead of giving a yes or no. It was frustrating to watch.

]]> by: MikeEss http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/19/bidenizing-obama-health-care-and-whopper-of-a-laughfest-at-wnd/#comment-492474 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:51:07 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/19/bidenizing-obama-health-care-and-whopper-of-a-laughfest-at-wnd/#comment-492474 <i>"They love the military. They’re constantly going on about how we’ve got the best military in the world."</i> I think the incredible increase in the use of mercenaries, um sorry, "private military contractors" is an indication that even the pass the military has gotten in the past may be over. Ultimately, the whole thing is a way to extract money from us and give it to defense industries. But some of the money is still going to troops - so if they eliminate that, it'll be perfect!... Now if they can just contract out cops and firemen... “They love the military. They’re constantly going on about how we’ve got the best military in the world.”

I think the incredible increase in the use of mercenaries, um sorry, “private military contractors” is an indication that even the pass the military has gotten in the past may be over.

Ultimately, the whole thing is a way to extract money from us and give it to defense industries. But some of the money is still going to troops - so if they eliminate that, it’ll be perfect!…

Now if they can just contract out cops and firemen…

]]> by: libdevil http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/19/bidenizing-obama-health-care-and-whopper-of-a-laughfest-at-wnd/#comment-492469 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:45:27 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/19/bidenizing-obama-health-care-and-whopper-of-a-laughfest-at-wnd/#comment-492469 Here's the thing - if government can't do anything (healthcare, for example) right, how do Republicans justify their wargasms? They love the military. They're constantly going on about how we've got the best military in the world. What circuit is missing in their brains such that they can't recognize that the military is a) run by the government, and b) successful because it is lavishly funded? It's even overfunded, and could complete any reasonable mission for a fraction of its current cost. Here’s the thing - if government can’t do anything (healthcare, for example) right, how do Republicans justify their wargasms? They love the military. They’re constantly going on about how we’ve got the best military in the world. What circuit is missing in their brains such that they can’t recognize that the military is a) run by the government, and b) successful because it is lavishly funded? It’s even overfunded, and could complete any reasonable mission for a fraction of its current cost.

]]> by: louise http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/19/bidenizing-obama-health-care-and-whopper-of-a-laughfest-at-wnd/#comment-492449 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:01:44 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/19/bidenizing-obama-health-care-and-whopper-of-a-laughfest-at-wnd/#comment-492449 <blockquote>It just means we put forward an untested candidate - and that worked so well for us in 2004.</blockquote> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kerry "Untested"? Are you kidding or just numb?

It just means we put forward an untested candidate - and that worked so well for us in 2004.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kerry

“Untested”? Are you kidding or just numb?

]]> by: gwangung http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/19/bidenizing-obama-health-care-and-whopper-of-a-laughfest-at-wnd/#comment-492444 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:54:06 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/19/bidenizing-obama-health-care-and-whopper-of-a-laughfest-at-wnd/#comment-492444 <blockquote> I highly doubt the Republicans need to search the comments of this blog to come up with attacks on Obama. This is an attack that Obama brought on himself. It wasn’t made up - he didn’t credit the guy. Shielding Obama from legit criticism on this (or other) issues doesn’t help the democrats </blockquote> This isn't a legit criticism. And it doesn't help the Democrats to pose as if this WAS a legit criticism

I highly doubt the Republicans need to search the comments of this blog to come up with attacks on Obama. This is an attack that Obama brought on himself. It wasn’t made up - he didn’t credit the guy. Shielding Obama from legit criticism on this (or other) issues doesn’t help the democrats

This isn’t a legit criticism.

And it doesn’t help the Democrats to pose as if this WAS a legit criticism

]]> by: Columbia http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/19/bidenizing-obama-health-care-and-whopper-of-a-laughfest-at-wnd/#comment-492430 Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:22:52 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/19/bidenizing-obama-health-care-and-whopper-of-a-laughfest-at-wnd/#comment-492430 I highly doubt the Republicans need to search the comments of this blog to come up with attacks on Obama. This is an attack that Obama brought on himself. It wasn't made up - he didn't credit the guy. Shielding Obama from legit criticism on this (or other) issues doesn't help the democrats. It just means we put forward an untested candidate - and that worked so well for us in 2004. And Pam - by repeating the insultiningly lame "a three word slogan is practically copy righted" defense, you are attacking Clinton. Apples and oranges. I highly doubt the Republicans need to search the comments of this blog to come up with attacks on Obama. This is an attack that Obama brought on himself. It wasn’t made up - he didn’t credit the guy. Shielding Obama from legit criticism on this (or other) issues doesn’t help the democrats. It just means we put forward an untested candidate - and that worked so well for us in 2004.

And Pam - by repeating the insultiningly lame “a three word slogan is practically copy righted” defense, you are attacking Clinton. Apples and oranges.

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