Comments on: Jane Fonda offends by saying something inoffensive

by: Dremarr

Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:13:16 +0000

Isn’t this the same show that concealed the cover of the book “She Comes First” when the author was promoting it on the air a few years back? It had a suggestive picture of a papaya–cut in half. They didn’t say the title to that one either!! Break it down–how could it possibly offend? She - Comes - First. Why even bother giving the airtime if they’re going to take a faux-shame stance?

by: sophonisba

Sat, 16 Feb 2008 20:54:10 +0000

And people call men cunts too, not just women (Americans prefer “pussies,” but it’s the same thing). Nobody calls women pricks, because it’s women and their bodies who are the source of contempt and disgust, not men. Obviously, the insults are not analogous.

by: Samantha Vimes

Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:59:37 +0000

The difference between calling a woman a cunt and a man a prick seems to me that men don’t freeze in terror at “prick” wondering if they are about to be raped or beaten. Rather much like a black person faced with the hostile use of the “n word”, a woman hearing such hate directed at herself has good reason to wonder if violence is coming.

by: phylosopher

Sat, 16 Feb 2008 01:48:24 +0000

Hey Gdad:

For the record: Not all homeschoolers are fundies or even theists.

Most homeschoolers I know would have used it as a science lesson - anatomy 101

or,
Language arts - use/referenve

or,
art - Georgia O’Keefe

or
foregin language - Latin

or
political science - Vietnam protestors

Real homeschoolers, who see edcuation as braodening the mind , would appreciate the opportunity to teach - its only the fundies - who see education as indoctrination who would freak.

Please - do not generalize!!!!

by: paul

Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:54:54 +0000

Exactly, TR. This is like someone complaining about a documentary on freud’s theory of the phallus where someone mentions that the penis is something referred to as a prick.

by: H.

Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:51:34 +0000

John Lydon said ‘cunt’ (ok, ‘oh, you fucking cunts’) live on TV here a year or two ago:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2004/feb/04/realitytv.broadcasting

Fewer than 100 complaints flooded in.

by: James Moar

Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:22:30 +0000

Almost exactly the same thing happened once on British daytime TV, down to it being the same monologue. It passed pretty much entirely without comment — well, the context where I saw it was a ‘history of censorship’ show, but it seems to have gotten in there through the belated realisation that, oh yeah, she did say “cunt”.

by: TR

Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:21:54 +0000

Which is not to say I think it’s wrong for a woman to use the word “cunt” when discussing the word “cunt.”

So, yeah, the scrabbling about after this is silly. If they didn’t want people to use words for vagina on the segment, they probably shouldn’t have been talking about The Vagina Monlogues.

by: TR

Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:13:09 +0000

re: calling a woman a cunt

It’s no different than calling a guy a prick, which is also rude and immature

Not really. I’d say calling a guy a prick is no different than calling a white person a honky–which, yeah, I’m going to say is not a big deal, even if it’s not very nice.

In other words, insulting someone based on an intrinsic traits when those traits carry institutional privilege is really fucking different from insulting them based on traits that are the target of institutional oppression.

by: preznit giv me turkee

Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:16:01 +0000

damn, sorry about the multiple posts, didn’t realise moderation was on