Comments on: Horse race politics and ‘Company Town’ agita http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/10/horse-race-politics-and-company-town-agita/ Just another WordPress weblog Sun, 12 Feb 2012 12:47:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: Helen H http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/10/horse-race-politics-and-company-town-agita/#comment-490107 Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:28:36 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/10/horse-race-politics-and-company-town-agita/#comment-490107 No one even remotely sane is ever run by the Republican party nor a younger Democratic challenger against Kennedy. I would vote for a semi-sane Republican just to get rid of him. Yes, I live in MA. No, I have never and will never vote for old Ted. He and the rest of the truly messed up local/regional politicains are why I am no longer a Democrat, but classified as unenrolled. No one even remotely sane is ever run by the Republican party nor a younger Democratic challenger against Kennedy. I would vote for a semi-sane Republican just to get rid of him. Yes, I live in MA. No, I have never and will never vote for old Ted. He and the rest of the truly messed up local/regional politicains are why I am no longer a Democrat, but classified as unenrolled.

]]> by: Lemon Twist http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/10/horse-race-politics-and-company-town-agita/#comment-489931 Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:58:32 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/10/horse-race-politics-and-company-town-agita/#comment-489931 <i>Bill Clinton has enthusiastically said he’d campaign for Obama, should Obama be the nominee. The fact that Michelle Obama has to “think about” supporting Hillary says more about her than it does about the Clintons.</i> I call bullshit on this. Bill Clinton is the last democratically elected president. Michelle Obama is a smart, successful woman, but she isn't an elected official or a former elected official. She doesn't even campaign full time for her own husband. Should Sen. Clinton secure the nomination I would expect Sen. Obama to work to support her, but his wife can do whatever the hell she wants. Plus, in the next breath Michelle Obama said "You know, everyone in this party is going to work hard for whoever the nominee is." Way to leave that part out. Bill Clinton has enthusiastically said he’d campaign for Obama, should Obama be the nominee. The fact that Michelle Obama has to “think about” supporting Hillary says more about her than it does about the Clintons.

I call bullshit on this. Bill Clinton is the last democratically elected president. Michelle Obama is a smart, successful woman, but she isn’t an elected official or a former elected official. She doesn’t even campaign full time for her own husband. Should Sen. Clinton secure the nomination I would expect Sen. Obama to work to support her, but his wife can do whatever the hell she wants.

Plus, in the next breath Michelle Obama said “You know, everyone in this party is going to work hard for whoever the nominee is.” Way to leave that part out.

]]> by: cminus, dark lord of castle nutella http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/10/horse-race-politics-and-company-town-agita/#comment-489845 Sun, 10 Feb 2008 22:08:23 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/10/horse-race-politics-and-company-town-agita/#comment-489845 Obama is going to win DC in a landslide. Not because the Village hates the Clintons -- the Village <i>does</i> hate the Clintons, which is one of the best things about the Clintons, but the Village will be voting for John McCain in the GOP primary and probably the general election too -- but rather for the reasons Roadrunner gives. Remember, there's a world of difference between "Washington," home of the professional political class, and "DC," which is basically Baltimore with better sports teams. "DC" may not get the press, but it outnumbers "Washington" handily. Obama is going to win DC in a landslide. Not because the Village hates the Clintons — the Village does hate the Clintons, which is one of the best things about the Clintons, but the Village will be voting for John McCain in the GOP primary and probably the general election too — but rather for the reasons Roadrunner gives.

Remember, there’s a world of difference between “Washington,” home of the professional political class, and “DC,” which is basically Baltimore with better sports teams. “DC” may not get the press, but it outnumbers “Washington” handily.

]]> by: Isopluvial http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/10/horse-race-politics-and-company-town-agita/#comment-489831 Sun, 10 Feb 2008 20:38:17 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/10/horse-race-politics-and-company-town-agita/#comment-489831 Throw applies to LARGE numbers of current Republicans as well as Democrats, and their staffs. I believe in equal opportunity disposal! Throw applies to LARGE numbers of current Republicans as well as Democrats, and their staffs.
I believe in equal opportunity disposal!

]]> by: Blue Jean http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/10/horse-race-politics-and-company-town-agita/#comment-489818 Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:51:02 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/10/horse-race-politics-and-company-town-agita/#comment-489818 &amp;*^%$! "Throw" not "through." &*^%$! “Throw” not “through.”

]]> by: Blue Jean http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/10/horse-race-politics-and-company-town-agita/#comment-489815 Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:49:38 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/10/horse-race-politics-and-company-town-agita/#comment-489815 Bill Clinton has enthusiastically said he'd campaign for Obama, should Obama be the nominee. The fact that Michelle Obama has to "think about" supporting Hillary says more about her than it does about the Clintons. Isopluvial, Interesting, though I believe Ted's part in keeping Bork off the high court has earned him the Senator's seat as long as he wants it. If that dangerous fruitcake had joined the Supremes, we would have lost <i>Roe</i> twenty years ago. We may still lose it, if another Republican wins this time. If Hillary goes back to Senate (as seems increasingly likely) then it will be up to the NY voters to see if they want to keep her there or not. One could say that her diplomatic language was a way of keeping her options open, in case she has to work with McCain when (hopefully) he gets sent back to Senate too. BTW, does this "through out the old stuff" philosophy apply to Republicans too? Or just to Democrats? Bill Clinton has enthusiastically said he’d campaign for Obama, should Obama be the nominee. The fact that Michelle Obama has to “think about” supporting Hillary says more about her than it does about the Clintons.

Isopluvial,

Interesting, though I believe Ted’s part in keeping Bork off the high court has earned him the Senator’s seat as long as he wants it. If that dangerous fruitcake had joined the Supremes, we would have lost Roe twenty years ago. We may still lose it, if another Republican wins this time.

If Hillary goes back to Senate (as seems increasingly likely) then it will be up to the NY voters to see if they want to keep her there or not. One could say that her diplomatic language was a way of keeping her options open, in case she has to work with McCain when (hopefully) he gets sent back to Senate too.

BTW, does this “through out the old stuff” philosophy apply to Republicans too? Or just to Democrats?

]]> by: Hector B. http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/10/horse-race-politics-and-company-town-agita/#comment-489809 Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:41:27 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/10/horse-race-politics-and-company-town-agita/#comment-489809 <i>Don’t worry about me; worry about her: Michelle Obama </i> Just because the Clintons made the Obamas eat shit doesn't mean they have to like the taste. Don’t worry about me; worry about her:

Michelle Obama

Just because the Clintons made the Obamas eat shit doesn’t mean they have to like the taste.

]]> by: oceankat http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/10/horse-race-politics-and-company-town-agita/#comment-489788 Sun, 10 Feb 2008 18:41:48 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/10/horse-race-politics-and-company-town-agita/#comment-489788 Granted, we didn’t take the state, but does HRC deserve to win if she needs to pay phonebankers and Obama gets enthusiastic volunteers coming out of the wazoo? ==================================== My unenthusiastic vote counts exactly the same as your enthusiastic vote when we step into the voter booth. A lot more people with less enthusiasm than you will come out for the GE than came out to vote in the primaries. Their votes will count the same as your's too. Granted, we didn’t take the state, but does HRC deserve to win if she needs to pay phonebankers and Obama gets enthusiastic volunteers coming out of the wazoo?
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My unenthusiastic vote counts exactly the same as your enthusiastic vote when we step into the voter booth. A lot more people with less enthusiasm than you will come out for the GE than came out to vote in the primaries. Their votes will count the same as your’s too.

]]> by: soopermouse http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/10/horse-race-politics-and-company-town-agita/#comment-489759 Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:20:40 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/10/horse-race-politics-and-company-town-agita/#comment-489759 Gayle is spot on. As usual. And funny enough we just see wishful thinking treated as reality. Yes Amanda, get yourself to a campaign office. All that ass kissing has to pay off somehow. Gayle is spot on. As usual. And funny enough we just see wishful thinking treated as reality.

Yes Amanda, get yourself to a campaign office. All that ass kissing has to pay off somehow.

]]> by: loneoak http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/10/horse-race-politics-and-company-town-agita/#comment-489694 Sun, 10 Feb 2008 13:56:52 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/02/10/horse-race-politics-and-company-town-agita/#comment-489694 What I found most surprising here is that HRC is paying people to make phone calls for her. WTF? I worked the Obama campaign in my little Northern California hamlet and we had tens of thousands of volunteer callers across the state. Hell, almost 1% of the residents in our county volunteered for the campaign. Granted, we didn't take the state, but does HRC deserve to win if she needs to pay phonebankers and Obama gets enthusiastic volunteers coming out of the wazoo? And gets far, far, more small donors? Amanda, get yourself down to a campaign office! What I found most surprising here is that HRC is paying people to make phone calls for her. WTF? I worked the Obama campaign in my little Northern California hamlet and we had tens of thousands of volunteer callers across the state. Hell, almost 1% of the residents in our county volunteered for the campaign. Granted, we didn’t take the state, but does HRC deserve to win if she needs to pay phonebankers and Obama gets enthusiastic volunteers coming out of the wazoo? And gets far, far, more small donors?

Amanda, get yourself down to a campaign office!

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