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		<title>by: PhysioProf</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/29/6648/#comment-485673</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Dreher admires the certainty that he thinks that fundamentalist Muslims have, but I think it’s weird to admire certainty in a belief you think is false.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Amanda, you're just soo post-feudal. Get over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>Dreher admires the certainty that he thinks that fundamentalist Muslims have, but I think it’s weird to admire certainty in a belief you think is false.</p></blockquote>
	<p>Amanda, you&#8217;re just soo post-feudal. Get over it.
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		<title>by: Dunc</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/29/6648/#comment-485396</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, dude - at least it's an ethos.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I can’t count the times I’ve had the annoying idiot vs. evil fuck argument. I’m firmly in the evil fuck camp, myself.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I thought this was a &quot;both / and&quot; blog?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, dude - at least it&#8217;s an ethos.</p>
	<blockquote><p>I can’t count the times I’ve had the annoying idiot vs. evil fuck argument. I’m firmly in the evil fuck camp, myself.</p></blockquote>
	<p>I thought this was a &#8220;both / and&#8221; blog?
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		<title>by: wayward</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/29/6648/#comment-485392</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>In other words, Dreher wishes westerners were more likely to &quot;Believe, obey, fight!&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>In other words, Dreher wishes westerners were more likely to &#8220;Believe, obey, fight!&#8221;
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		<title>by: Male Authority Figure</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/29/6648/#comment-485381</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Sniper, the problem with you and really your whole generation is that you lack respect.  God, sometimes I feel like the world is just going to hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Sniper, the problem with you and really your whole generation is that you lack respect.  God, sometimes I feel like the world is just going to hell.
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		<title>by: Sniper</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/29/6648/#comment-485264</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I can't count the times I've had the annoying idiot vs. evil fuck argument. I'm firmly in the evil fuck camp, myself.

One of the few things that really sticks with me years after majoring in history is that there is always, &lt;i&gt; somebody - usually a male authority figure - complaining that the world is going to hell and that the new generation lacks respect.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I can&#8217;t count the times I&#8217;ve had the annoying idiot vs. evil fuck argument. I&#8217;m firmly in the evil fuck camp, myself.</p>
	<p>One of the few things that really sticks with me years after majoring in history is that there is always, <i> somebody - usually a male authority figure - complaining that the world is going to hell and that the new generation lacks respect.</i>
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		<title>by: felagund</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/29/6648/#comment-485228</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Having lived in both West Africa and Cairo, I can assure you that Dreher is completely full of shit. Cairo is a total clusterfuck by almost any reasonable standard of judgment. West Africa is generally worse, but it's not because of religion: most West Africans are quite devout, though it's often to more than one religion at once.

The reason WA is more of a clusterfuck than Cairo has nothing to do with religion. Go read about the history of French and British colonialism in Africa: one thing that will stand out is that when the colonists had to let go of their colonies in the 50s and 60s, they purposefully drew the borders so that the newly independent states would be as dysfunctional as possible. In WA, the ethnic, cultural and linguistic similarities tend to run east-west: people along the coast are pretty similar to one another, but different from the people 100km inland, who tend to be pretty similar to one another, etc. So the French drew the boundaries north-south, thus ensuring that each country would have a problematic mix of people. This kept them financially and culturally dependent upon France.

You can look at the history of Iraq and see the same phenomenon writ large.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Having lived in both West Africa and Cairo, I can assure you that Dreher is completely full of shit. Cairo is a total clusterfuck by almost any reasonable standard of judgment. West Africa is generally worse, but it&#8217;s not because of religion: most West Africans are quite devout, though it&#8217;s often to more than one religion at once.</p>
	<p>The reason WA is more of a clusterfuck than Cairo has nothing to do with religion. Go read about the history of French and British colonialism in Africa: one thing that will stand out is that when the colonists had to let go of their colonies in the 50s and 60s, they purposefully drew the borders so that the newly independent states would be as dysfunctional as possible. In WA, the ethnic, cultural and linguistic similarities tend to run east-west: people along the coast are pretty similar to one another, but different from the people 100km inland, who tend to be pretty similar to one another, etc. So the French drew the boundaries north-south, thus ensuring that each country would have a problematic mix of people. This kept them financially and culturally dependent upon France.</p>
	<p>You can look at the history of Iraq and see the same phenomenon writ large.
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		<title>by: Erika</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/29/6648/#comment-485223</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I think of the world as decaying, but that's related to my fear of environmental degradation, peak energy, and scarcity of basic resources (fresh water in particular).  Is this all the fault of my narcissism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I think of the world as decaying, but that&#8217;s related to my fear of environmental degradation, peak energy, and scarcity of basic resources (fresh water in particular).  Is this all the fault of my narcissism?
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		<title>by: Grammar RWA</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/29/6648/#comment-485216</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I wonder if Dreher has been reading Sayyid Qutb and Leo Strauss.

Anyone who can find The Power of Nightmares on youtube or bittorrent is encouraged to do so.

On another note, I do feel like I am surrounded by the decay of democracy and the environment. I do have a sizable ego, but I don't think these are related.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I wonder if Dreher has been reading Sayyid Qutb and Leo Strauss.</p>
	<p>Anyone who can find The Power of Nightmares on youtube or bittorrent is encouraged to do so.</p>
	<p>On another note, I do feel like I am surrounded by the decay of democracy and the environment. I do have a sizable ego, but I don&#8217;t think these are related.
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		<title>by: Godmonkey</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/29/6648/#comment-485210</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Move to a cool city, or even visit locals, and you'll &lt;b&gt;invariably&lt;/b&gt; hear how much cooler it was in the Golden Age. The Golden Age was always just after the correspondent got there, but just before you did. 

I'm not sure that The Fear of End Days and the Reverence of the Golden Age don't spring from separate impulses (though if you buy them both today, they'll throw in Dismissal of Present Trends, your treasure to keep, for absolutely nothing).

Hard to say.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Move to a cool city, or even visit locals, and you&#8217;ll <b>invariably</b> hear how much cooler it was in the Golden Age. The Golden Age was always just after the correspondent got there, but just before you did. </p>
	<p>I&#8217;m not sure that The Fear of End Days and the Reverence of the Golden Age don&#8217;t spring from separate impulses (though if you buy them both today, they&#8217;ll throw in Dismissal of Present Trends, your treasure to keep, for absolutely nothing).</p>
	<p>Hard to say.
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		<title>by: tps12</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/29/6648/#comment-485205</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I don't agree with this guy that society needs order and repression, but at least he's honest about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I don&#8217;t agree with this guy that society needs order and repression, but at least he&#8217;s honest about it.
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