Comments on: PTSD-fueled murders in the wake of the return home http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/15/6569/ Just another WordPress weblog Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:35:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: Khankrumthebulgar http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/15/6569/#comment-483659 Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:52:19 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/15/6569/#comment-483659 Maybe then you can ask Marine Sgt. Michael McNulty who had his car keyed by Liberal Lawyer Jay R. Grodner about his Anti Military comments. Who laughed he would get away with it. Because McNulty was shipping out to Iraq. His license plate fees go to a scholarship fund for the Children of Marines killed in Action. Yet this was the reason that Lawyer Grodner keyed the auto. He was late twice to court. And just sentenced for his crime. He pled guilty in a plea agreement. And like the Coward he is he ran to France on Vacation rather than own up to his actions. He should have offered to Fix the Marine's car. Don't lecture me you pompous ass. I have two family members in the Military. One who fought in Fallujah. With the Third Fifth Regiment. You are certainly entitlted to your opinion. I am calling you on your attitude. Maybe then you can ask Marine Sgt. Michael McNulty who had his car keyed by Liberal Lawyer Jay R. Grodner about his Anti Military comments. Who laughed he would get away with it. Because McNulty was shipping out to Iraq. His license plate fees go to a scholarship fund for the Children of Marines killed in Action. Yet this was the reason that Lawyer Grodner keyed the auto. He was late twice to court.

And just sentenced for his crime. He pled guilty in a plea agreement. And like the Coward he is he ran to France on Vacation rather than own up to his actions. He should have offered to Fix the Marine’s car.

Don’t lecture me you pompous ass. I have two family members in the Military. One who fought in Fallujah. With the Third Fifth Regiment. You are certainly entitlted to your opinion. I am calling you on your attitude.

]]> by: ginmar http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/15/6569/#comment-482578 Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:23:58 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/15/6569/#comment-482578 You don't get out much then, dude. You have what? Three anecdotes and bullshit. Try reading "The Spitting Image" about what <i>actually </i> happened during the Viet Nam war. Many veterans were anti-war themselves and the people spitting on them were conservative white males. None of your vague anecdotes stands up against this well-researched book, or against my own experience. Oh, yeah, and I was in combat myself. Conservative males are the worst possible creatures for a female soldier to deal with and until you have a sex change and join up you're out of line telling me what it's like. You don’t get out much then, dude. You have what? Three anecdotes and bullshit. Try reading “The Spitting Image” about what actually happened during the Viet Nam war. Many veterans were anti-war themselves and the people spitting on them were conservative white males. None of your vague anecdotes stands up against this well-researched book, or against my own experience. Oh, yeah, and I was in combat myself. Conservative males are the worst possible creatures for a female soldier to deal with and until you have a sex change and join up you’re out of line telling me what it’s like.

]]> by: Khankrumthebulgar http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/15/6569/#comment-482448 Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:59:46 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/15/6569/#comment-482448 Sorry Ginmar. It was Leftist Groups who promoted the Liess of Jesse McBeth the Poser or Phony Army Ranger. And had his web cast put on until legit members of the 75th Ranger Regiment noted the way he wore his uniform. And all the other lies unraveled. He was later denounced by the Iraqi Veterans Against the War. Who initially accepted him without checking him out. It was Anti Iraq War leftists who sent hate mail to a US Soldier a Paratrooper. Again the same playbook from VietNam blame the Troops, call them Baby Killers. An Anti War Democratic Friend of mine in the Bay Area. Who served in Viet Nam was spit on when he came home. Is opposed to the War in Iraq. But he draws the distinction which many on the left cannot between those who serve and the Politicians who send them off to War. You served yourself. My Son and Step Son have been in Ground Combat. Most Americans have been respectful but all are not. I have seen No Conservatives who have impugned the Service of our Military in either AO. Sorry Ginmar. It was Leftist Groups who promoted the Liess of Jesse McBeth the Poser or Phony Army Ranger. And had his web cast put on until legit members of the 75th Ranger Regiment noted the way he wore his uniform. And all the other lies unraveled. He was later denounced by the Iraqi Veterans Against the War. Who initially accepted him without checking him out.

It was Anti Iraq War leftists who sent hate mail to a US Soldier a Paratrooper. Again the same playbook from VietNam blame the Troops, call them Baby Killers. An Anti War Democratic Friend of mine in the Bay Area. Who served in Viet Nam was spit on when he came home. Is opposed to the War in Iraq. But he draws the distinction which many on the left cannot between those who serve and the Politicians who send them off to War.

You served yourself. My Son and Step Son have been in Ground Combat. Most Americans have been respectful but all are not. I have seen No Conservatives who have impugned the Service of our Military in either AO.

]]> by: ginmar http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/15/6569/#comment-482293 Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:08:39 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/15/6569/#comment-482293 Sorry, bulgar, but you're wrong about the left regarding soldiers as killers and so forth. It's the conservobots who are truly horrible to soldiers, dismissing them as if they were defective once they're broken. I can count on the fingers of one hand the leftists who've been extreme enough to have the attitude you describe. Meanwhile, conservatives jeer at any soldier who doesn't kiss their ass. Sorry, bulgar, but you’re wrong about the left regarding soldiers as killers and so forth. It’s the conservobots who are truly horrible to soldiers, dismissing them as if they were defective once they’re broken. I can count on the fingers of one hand the leftists who’ve been extreme enough to have the attitude you describe. Meanwhile, conservatives jeer at any soldier who doesn’t kiss their ass.

]]> by: khankrumthebulgar http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/15/6569/#comment-482226 Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:29:30 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/15/6569/#comment-482226 The War in Iraq and Afghanistan have no front. By now that should be obvious. So anybody over there is subject to hostile fire, including the Women. The DOD has not been honest about Women being subject to hostile fire. Sadly the Troops who are doing the bleeding and dying are being ignored mostly by their Countrymen. Who on the Left see them as Sub Human Killers and Monsters. And on the Right as dutiful Drones who are not very bright doing their Patriotic Duty. Who should just serve and not complain about the rotten Medical and mental Health treatment they do not get. Benefits denied them from an uncaring Veterans system. Hospitals and clinics underfunded. And few advocates who care about their problems. We sent them after all into this Firestorm. This nation owes those who faced death with better treatment. Regardless of their Gender. Whenever this Nation truly feels threatened we ignore the Sexual Preferences of those who serve. When not it becomes an issue of Unit Cohesion, or a discipline problem or other excuse to Kick Gays and Lesbians to the curb. Their lives are equally threatened by Islamic Radicalism. Gays are being tortured and murdered in Iraq. If Sharia comes to the US, gays and lesbians will be among those first targeted. Iran is hanging Teenagers who are Gay. I agree we are hypocrites in how we treat Gays and Lesbians on this issue. Two of my Family members have served in both Wars. The War in Iraq and Afghanistan have no front. By now that should be obvious. So anybody over there is subject to hostile fire, including the Women. The DOD has not been honest about Women being subject to hostile fire.

Sadly the Troops who are doing the bleeding and dying are being ignored mostly by their Countrymen. Who on the Left see them as Sub Human Killers and Monsters. And on the Right as dutiful Drones who are not very bright doing their Patriotic Duty. Who should just serve and not complain about the rotten Medical and mental Health treatment they do not get.

Benefits denied them from an uncaring Veterans system. Hospitals and clinics underfunded. And few advocates who care about their problems. We sent them after all into this Firestorm. This nation owes those who faced death with better treatment. Regardless of their Gender.

Whenever this Nation truly feels threatened we ignore the Sexual Preferences of those who serve. When not it becomes an issue of Unit Cohesion, or a discipline problem or other excuse to Kick Gays and Lesbians to the curb.

Their lives are equally threatened by Islamic Radicalism. Gays are being tortured and murdered in Iraq. If Sharia comes to the US, gays and lesbians will be among those first targeted. Iran is hanging Teenagers who are Gay. I agree we are hypocrites in how we treat Gays and Lesbians on this issue.

Two of my Family members have served in both Wars.

]]> by: khankrumthebulgar http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/15/6569/#comment-482167 Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:04:43 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/15/6569/#comment-482167 I will go on record and agree with Ginmar on a number of the points she has raised. With a Volunteer Military rather than a Drafted one. It appears to the US Citizens that all those who go are happy about being there. Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, and Marines have always been disposable. That is the nature of War. Those who see it as a glorious exercise have not lost family members in war. We lost three in WW2 in our Family. One a decorated Paratrooper with the 507th Regiment died an early death due to his injuries. The American Citizenry and Politicians pay lip service to the mental health issues of our Military folks. And sadly it is easier to learn to kill than to turn off the killing instinct and violence once it is required of you to survive. Many of our Veterans can never fully reintegrate into society and cannot relate to civilian life again. Those who are the biggest cheerleaders for war are often very far from the fighting and its horrors. We will be dealing with the fall out from the Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan for many decades. War should be the last resort, the very last resort. I will go on record and agree with Ginmar on a number of the points she has raised. With a Volunteer Military rather than a Drafted one. It appears to the US Citizens that all those who go are happy about being there.

Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, and Marines have always been disposable. That is the nature of War. Those who see it as a glorious exercise have not lost family members in war. We lost three in WW2 in our Family. One a decorated Paratrooper with the 507th Regiment died an early death due to his injuries.

The American Citizenry and Politicians pay lip service to the mental health issues of our Military folks. And sadly it is easier to learn to kill than to turn off the killing instinct and violence once it is required of you to survive.

Many of our Veterans can never fully reintegrate into society and cannot relate to civilian life again. Those who are the biggest cheerleaders for war are often very far from the fighting and its horrors.

We will be dealing with the fall out from the Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan for many decades. War should be the last resort, the very last resort.

]]> by: balom http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/15/6569/#comment-482151 Wed, 16 Jan 2008 08:15:52 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/15/6569/#comment-482151 Have you heard about the Pentagon's plan to use drugs to eliminate PTSD (the so called Psychological Kevlar Act) http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/29990 Have you heard about the Pentagon’s plan to use drugs to eliminate PTSD (the so called Psychological Kevlar Act)

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/29990

]]> by: Lorelei http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/15/6569/#comment-482095 Tue, 15 Jan 2008 23:31:00 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/15/6569/#comment-482095 Amanda, where is the troll? i don't see one. or did you mod their comment? Amanda, where is the troll? i don’t see one. or did you mod their comment?

]]> by: ginmar http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/15/6569/#comment-482042 Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:34:49 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/15/6569/#comment-482042 And shockingly he denies that women are combat. Probably because all those male soldiers protect them, you know. And shockingly he denies that women are combat. Probably because all those male soldiers protect them, you know.

]]> by: ginmar http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/15/6569/#comment-482041 Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:33:40 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/15/6569/#comment-482041 I'm really surprised to find that only seven percent of women in the military in combat. So would be the other women in my company, too. Where did you get those figures from, Dr. T? The whole of Iraq is a combat zone and I've yet to meet a woman who served there who didn't have at least some engagement with the enemy. Your figures are seriously off. I’m really surprised to find that only seven percent of women in the military in combat. So would be the other women in my company, too. Where did you get those figures from, Dr. T?

The whole of Iraq is a combat zone and I’ve yet to meet a woman who served there who didn’t have at least some engagement with the enemy. Your figures are seriously off.

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