Comments on: Out of control tasing continues http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/12/out-of-control-tasing-continues/ Just another WordPress weblog Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:24:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: odanu http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/12/out-of-control-tasing-continues/#comment-481834 Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:17:18 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/12/out-of-control-tasing-continues/#comment-481834 Eric, ROM. Just so you know, the last time I was in a physical confrontation was Friday morning. I had a client punch me in the face. This client was having a psychotic break and was also quite drunk. Another client came to my aid by restraining her until our security guards could arrive, and the security guards restrained her (without cuffs or weapons) until the police could arrive. She was escorted out of the building without further incident. I have been extensively trained in violence prevention and management, and the situation above is the one situation that can never be prevented -- someone suffering a full blown psychotic break doing random violence -- but it can (and should) be handled without harming the perpetrator in any way. So take your testosterone soaked balls away and go play with them somewhere else. Eric, ROM. Just so you know, the last time I was in a physical confrontation was Friday morning. I had a client punch me in the face. This client was having a psychotic break and was also quite drunk. Another client came to my aid by restraining her until our security guards could arrive, and the security guards restrained her (without cuffs or weapons) until the police could arrive. She was escorted out of the building without further incident.

I have been extensively trained in violence prevention and management, and the situation above is the one situation that can never be prevented — someone suffering a full blown psychotic break doing random violence — but it can (and should) be handled without harming the perpetrator in any way.

So take your testosterone soaked balls away and go play with them somewhere else.

]]> by: sara http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/12/out-of-control-tasing-continues/#comment-481594 Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:34:59 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/12/out-of-control-tasing-continues/#comment-481594 How many white people have been tased? Interesting statistic, that. Attests the latent racism and de facto apartheid that persist in American society. How many white people have been tased?

Interesting statistic, that. Attests the latent racism and de facto apartheid that persist in American society.

]]> by: witless chum http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/12/out-of-control-tasing-continues/#comment-481467 Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:42:32 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/12/out-of-control-tasing-continues/#comment-481467 "It’s not “out of control tasing”, it’s “out of control policing”. The taser isn’t the problem, it’s the assholes who use it when it’s uncalled for." Indeed. I've looked into some situations where they absolutely did save lives, such as a case where a the cops pull up to find a guy going after his wife with a butcher knife in the front yard. No taser, they shot him. But they were able to shock him and he lived through it. Now, he (at least claims) lingering health problems from it, but better for everyone in that situation that the cops had tasers, knew how to use them and did so correctly. “It’s not “out of control tasing”, it’s “out of control policing”. The taser isn’t the problem, it’s the assholes who use it when it’s uncalled for.”

Indeed. I’ve looked into some situations where they absolutely did save lives, such as a case where a the cops pull up to find a guy going after his wife with a butcher knife in the front yard. No taser, they shot him. But they were able to shock him and he lived through it. Now, he (at least claims) lingering health problems from it, but better for everyone in that situation that the cops had tasers, knew how to use them and did so correctly.

]]> by: louise http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/12/out-of-control-tasing-continues/#comment-481443 Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:34:18 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/12/out-of-control-tasing-continues/#comment-481443 Damn, I miss the bunnies- can we have one for old time's sake? It's been awhile... Damn, I miss the bunnies- can we have one for old time’s sake? It’s been awhile…

]]> by: gnaddrig http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/12/out-of-control-tasing-continues/#comment-481439 Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:04:41 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/12/out-of-control-tasing-continues/#comment-481439 Skullhunter, Russia would be an excellent move full of opportunity, too. None of this silly fussing over human rights and stuff. Check out how you can expect officers to treat you in the police station <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8g07i1WgEM" rel="nofollow">if they don't like you</a>. Or what happens if some bored <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omon" rel="nofollow">OMON</a> officers feel like <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw2_Zs140lg" rel="nofollow">a bit of fun</a> (the voice at the end of the clip says to the man stumbling away <i>Now say "I love the special forces"!</i> cookie, is that the way you think the U.S. (or, for that matter, any civilized country) should be heading? Skullhunter, Russia would be an excellent move full of opportunity, too. None of this silly fussing over human rights and stuff.

Check out how you can expect officers to treat you in the police station if they don’t like you. Or what happens if some bored OMON officers feel like a bit of fun (the voice at the end of the clip says to the man stumbling away Now say “I love the special forces”!

cookie, is that the way you think the U.S. (or, for that matter, any civilized country) should be heading?

]]> by: Samantha Vimes http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/12/out-of-control-tasing-continues/#comment-481437 Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:54:31 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/12/out-of-control-tasing-continues/#comment-481437 Cookie, I not only think you are lying about being police, I most frevrently hope you are. You seem the antithesis of everything an officer should be. I even remember you implying a rape threat in one of the first threads I saw you in, and wondered why you hadn't been bunnied on the spot. *sigh* Cookie, I not only think you are lying about being police, I most frevrently hope you are. You seem the antithesis of everything an officer should be. I even remember you implying a rape threat in one of the first threads I saw you in, and wondered why you hadn’t been bunnied on the spot.
*sigh*

]]> by: MikeEss http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/12/out-of-control-tasing-continues/#comment-481435 Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:36:30 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/12/out-of-control-tasing-continues/#comment-481435 Skullhunter, thank you for saying that so well... :) Skullhunter, thank you for saying that so well… :)

]]> by: Skullhunter, Archdemon of Coffee Beverages http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/12/out-of-control-tasing-continues/#comment-481425 Mon, 14 Jan 2008 05:13:37 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/12/out-of-control-tasing-continues/#comment-481425 cookie, here's an idea. If you can't hack the job, if the stress of dealing with "dumbasses" is too much, if you can't handle the idea that the people you're supposed to serve and protect might actually want you held to a high standard of conduct, if you think you can pick and choose who among us are worthy of serving and protecting, <i>find another fucking job</i>. You and the rest of your comrades who think it's a trial and a hardship to actually be expected to do your job without acting like you're the knights of some landed noble, free to do as you will to those beneath you in station can quit fucking whining all the time and either find something less taxing to do with your time or perhaps move to another country where your enthusiasm for bullying ordinary citizens who don't meet the status quo's standards and your contempt for same will be more appreciated. Perhaps China or Saudi Arabia would be more to your liking, you can rest assured there's not a lot of criminal-coddling there. cookie, here’s an idea. If you can’t hack the job, if the stress of dealing with “dumbasses” is too much, if you can’t handle the idea that the people you’re supposed to serve and protect might actually want you held to a high standard of conduct, if you think you can pick and choose who among us are worthy of serving and protecting, find another fucking job. You and the rest of your comrades who think it’s a trial and a hardship to actually be expected to do your job without acting like you’re the knights of some landed noble, free to do as you will to those beneath you in station can quit fucking whining all the time and either find something less taxing to do with your time or perhaps move to another country where your enthusiasm for bullying ordinary citizens who don’t meet the status quo’s standards and your contempt for same will be more appreciated. Perhaps China or Saudi Arabia would be more to your liking, you can rest assured there’s not a lot of criminal-coddling there.

]]> by: cookie http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/12/out-of-control-tasing-continues/#comment-481391 Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:35:56 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/12/out-of-control-tasing-continues/#comment-481391 Kiernan, I have been putting on a uniform and badge for 14 years and putting up with dumbasses like you! Kiernan, I have been putting on a uniform and badge for 14 years and putting up with dumbasses like you!

]]> by: Melanie http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/12/out-of-control-tasing-continues/#comment-481375 Sun, 13 Jan 2008 18:39:06 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/12/out-of-control-tasing-continues/#comment-481375 Clearly Tasers aren't being used to subdue people who are resisting arrest or are a danger to the officer; they are being used as a means of control and abuse of power. Like the woman who was given 2 seconds to get out of her car before being Tased. Clearly Tasers aren’t being used to subdue people who are resisting arrest or are a danger to the officer; they are being used as a means of control and abuse of power. Like the woman who was given 2 seconds to get out of her car before being Tased.

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