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	<title>Comments on: Abandon ship: Benny Hinn, other televangelists resign posts at Oral Roberts U.</title>
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		<title>by: bernarda</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>There are some good videos of Marjoe Gortner on youtube where he explains how the scam works. You might want to post one sometime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>There are some good videos of Marjoe Gortner on youtube where he explains how the scam works. You might want to post one sometime.
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		<title>by: mnemosyne</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/11/abandon-ship-benny-hinn-other-televangelists-resign-posts-at-oral-roberts-u/#comment-481037</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 10:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;But I’m trying to think of any of the televangelists who actually have been thrown to the wolves, rather than spirited off to quietly subsidized retirement or plans for a comeback…&lt;/i&gt;

Though he subsequently made a comeback, Jim Bakker did get thrown to the wolves and went to jail.  That's what happens when Jerry Falwell wants all of your TV stations but doesn't want to have to pay top dollar for them.  Bakker worked his way back up to TV, but he doesn't have anything resembling the prominence he once had.

Tammy Faye never went back to televangelizing, but she was too gay-friendly to go back to that world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>But I’m trying to think of any of the televangelists who actually have been thrown to the wolves, rather than spirited off to quietly subsidized retirement or plans for a comeback…</i></p>
	<p>Though he subsequently made a comeback, Jim Bakker did get thrown to the wolves and went to jail.  That&#8217;s what happens when Jerry Falwell wants all of your TV stations but doesn&#8217;t want to have to pay top dollar for them.  Bakker worked his way back up to TV, but he doesn&#8217;t have anything resembling the prominence he once had.</p>
	<p>Tammy Faye never went back to televangelizing, but she was too gay-friendly to go back to that world.
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		<title>by: paul</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/11/abandon-ship-benny-hinn-other-televangelists-resign-posts-at-oral-roberts-u/#comment-480963</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 21:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Petey:

if they stayed and let the corruption continue, darn right. 

But I'm trying to think of any of the televangelists who actually have been thrown to the wolves, rather than spirited off to  quietly subsidized retirement or plans for a comeback...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Petey:</p>
	<p>if they stayed and let the corruption continue, darn right. </p>
	<p>But I&#8217;m trying to think of any of the televangelists who actually have been thrown to the wolves, rather than spirited off to  quietly subsidized retirement or plans for a comeback&#8230;
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		<title>by: Mnemosyne</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/11/abandon-ship-benny-hinn-other-televangelists-resign-posts-at-oral-roberts-u/#comment-480940</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;I had completely forgotten about that dick…&lt;/i&gt;

Now, I can't guarantee it, but I think that if you watch the extremely bad movie &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074540/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Food of the Gods&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, you may be able to see Marjoe get eaten by giant rats.  It was MST3K'd at one point, but I don't know if that episode is on video.

Barring that, try &lt;i&gt;Earthquake&lt;/i&gt;.  Almost everyone dies in that movie, so you've got a good shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>I had completely forgotten about that dick…</i></p>
	<p>Now, I can&#8217;t guarantee it, but I think that if you watch the extremely bad movie <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074540/" rel="nofollow"><i>The Food of the Gods</i></a>, you may be able to see Marjoe get eaten by giant rats.  It was MST3K&#8217;d at one point, but I don&#8217;t know if that episode is on video.</p>
	<p>Barring that, try <i>Earthquake</i>.  Almost everyone dies in that movie, so you&#8217;ve got a good shot.
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		<title>by: Shayne</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Creflo Dollar? *blinks* Oh, yeah, verily the good Lord gives mightily to those who believe. Rolls Royces, jets and all.

I guess he gives to those who help themselves to funds they aren't entitled to as well.  Sheesh, that's cheating, I say. Cheating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Creflo Dollar? *blinks* Oh, yeah, verily the good Lord gives mightily to those who believe. Rolls Royces, jets and all.</p>
	<p>I guess he gives to those who help themselves to funds they aren&#8217;t entitled to as well.  Sheesh, that&#8217;s cheating, I say. Cheating.
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		<title>by: MikeEss</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;There’s also Marjoe&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I had completely forgotten about that dick...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>&#8220;There’s also Marjoe&#8221;</i></p>
	<p>I had completely forgotten about that dick&#8230;
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		<title>by: MAJeff, the God of Biscuits</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2008/01/11/abandon-ship-benny-hinn-other-televangelists-resign-posts-at-oral-roberts-u/#comment-480932</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>There's also &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068924/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Marjoe&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>There&#8217;s also <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068924/" rel="nofollow">Marjoe</a>
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		<title>by: smartalek</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>That Benny Hinn video is brilliance personified.
There was a great movie about a character like that with Steve Martin (not a comedy -- but totally mis-marketed as though it had been, which was probably why it's totally underrated and under-remembered).
Details, if anyone cares:
http://imdb.com/title/tt0104695/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>That Benny Hinn video is brilliance personified.<br />
There was a great movie about a character like that with Steve Martin (not a comedy &#8212; but totally mis-marketed as though it had been, which was probably why it&#8217;s totally underrated and under-remembered).<br />
Details, if anyone cares:<br />
<a href='http://imdb.com/title/tt0104695/' rel='nofollow'>http://imdb.com/title/tt0104695/</a>
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		<title>by: Petey Wheatstraw</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Of course, if none of them left, then people would be muttering about how they are guilty of something by proxy, or that they still &quot;support&quot;...something...um, bad.  I dunno.

Fundies have this corporate purity thing going on.  If a fundie preacher screws up, they just toss him to the wolves and get another one.  Somethin' doesn't sit right with me about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Of course, if none of them left, then people would be muttering about how they are guilty of something by proxy, or that they still &#8220;support&#8221;&#8230;something&#8230;um, bad.  I dunno.</p>
	<p>Fundies have this corporate purity thing going on.  If a fundie preacher screws up, they just toss him to the wolves and get another one.  Somethin&#8217; doesn&#8217;t sit right with me about that.
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		<title>by: paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I wouldn't be surprised if the university's regents, who are nominally at the top of its governance structure, are in a position to bear liability for bad governance in the same way that directors of a fraudulently-managed corporation can be sued for failing in their fiduciary duty. That would be a much more important reason for getting out than any kind of moral outrage. (Indeed, their christian duty would be to try and right what's gone wrong at ORU -- even from its own crazy point of view -- and suffer the tribulations after living so well during the good times.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if the university&#8217;s regents, who are nominally at the top of its governance structure, are in a position to bear liability for bad governance in the same way that directors of a fraudulently-managed corporation can be sued for failing in their fiduciary duty. That would be a much more important reason for getting out than any kind of moral outrage. (Indeed, their christian duty would be to try and right what&#8217;s gone wrong at ORU &#8212; even from its own crazy point of view &#8212; and suffer the tribulations after living so well during the good times.)
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