Holy Joe to endorse McCain.
So we’ll officially find out tomorrow whether the senator from Connecticut’s assimilation is now complete:
Democratic and Republican sources say that Sen. Joe Lieberman, the independent Democrat from Connecticut and fierce supporter of the war in Iraq, will formally endorse Sen. John McCain tomorrow in New Hampshire.More from CNN:A McCain spokesperson declined to comment.
A source familiar with the endorsement said that the two will appear of NBC’s Today Show tomorrow morning and at a town hall meeting in New Hampshire.
…The move will heighten speculation that McCain might ask Lieberman to join his ticket.
Lieberman had not planned to endorse anyone until after the primary season, but McCain asked Lieberman for his endorsement a few days after the two men returned from a Thanksgiving trip to Iraq together, and Lieberman decided to do it, according to the same Lieberman aide.Mitt ‘wept with relief’ when Mormons ended discrimination…Lieberman will continue to caucus with the Democrats. [And the point is…?]
…”I have the greatest respect for Joe, but I simply have to disagree with his decision to endorse Senator McCain,” Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said in a statement to CNN.
…against blacks being denied the opportunity to serve as priests in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. He recounted his response on Meet the Press this morning. (The Politico):
“I can remember when I heard about the change being made. I was driving home from — I think it was law school, but I was driving home — going through the Fresh Pond rotary in Cambridge, Massachusetts. I heard it on the radio and I pulled over and literally wept.Unfortunately no such revelation was forthcoming about LGBT citizens and whether they are worthy of “the fullest degree of happiness in the hereafter.” That would have been my follow up question, but alas, Tim Russert didn’t think about Multiple Choice Mitt’s views on that particular kind of discrimination.“Even to this day, it’s emotional,” Romney went on.
“And so it’s very deep and fundamental in my life and my most core beliefs that all people are children of God. My faith has always told me that. My faith has also always told me that in the eyes of God, every individual was merited the fullest degree of happiness in the hereafter and I had no question that African Americans and blacks generally would have every right and every benefit in the hereafter that anyone else had and that God is no respecter of persons.”
Watch the video here.
Perrspectives: Top 10 Moments in Mike Huckabee’s Extremism
Ah, what a load of fun. Jon Perr has compiled Huck’s Greatest Fundie Hits for your entertainment.
- Huckabee Calls for the Quarantine of AIDS Victims
- Huckabee Enables the Politically-Motivated Parole of Repeat Rapist/Murderer
- Huckabee Offers Faith-Based Pardons
- Huckabee Undermines the Teaching of Evolution
- Huckabee Speaks for God
- Huckabee Speaks to God
- Huckabee Claims God Behind His Rise in the Polls
- Huckabee Proclaims His Theology Degree a Unique Qualification to Fight Terrorism
- Huckabee Flip-Flops, Calls for Federal Abortion Ban
- Huckabee Calls for Consumption Tax, Abolition of the IRS
A little follow up to Jon’s Number 8:8. Huckabee Proclaims His Theology Degree a Unique Qualification to Fight Terrorism
Minister Huckabee is quick to champion his degree from tiny Ouachita Baptist University as uniquely qualifying him for the White House. His faith-based presidency would fight the dual threats from Charles Darwin and Osama Bin Laden. In November, Huckabee tried to claim the mantle of the GOP’s leading terror fighter, arguing:
Apparently, Mike Huckabee knows a theocrat when he sees one. Well, unfortunately Huck’s campaign had to do some backpedaling because the rapist/murderer-releasing Baptist minister and former Arkansas governor doesn’t have a theology degree — he only spent a year in seminary.“I think I’m stronger than most people because I truly understand the nature of the war that we are in with Islamo fascism. These are people that want to kill us. It’s a theocratic war. And I don’t know if anybody fully understands that. I’m the only guy on that stage with a theology degree.”
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Oh, I forgot to let you all know in advance that I was going to be on CNN Sunday night. I was on the Blog Buzz segment at 7:30. Joe Sudbay of Americablog was kind enough to snare the video. Argh, I can’t watch myself. I was sitting in a very cold studio in Raleigh, listening to host Tony Harris and my foil on the right, Amanda Carpenter of Town Hall through a very trebly, almost painful earpiece. We discussed the Des Moines Register endorsements — Hillary Clinton and John McCain, as well as the Boston Globe nods to Obama and McCain.
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I call bullshit. It didn’t centrally involve Willard, so he had no response. This is lie produced for effect. Pure Willard.
“that God is no respecter of persons”
Wow, that language is old school. It’s sort of like when I go to Quaker Friend’s Meeting and someone insists on using the word “Thee”.
Who still listens to Lieberman?
Who still listens to Lieberman?
Villagers.
“And so it’s very deep and fundamental in my life and my most core beliefs that all people are children of God. My faith has always told me that.”
…but until 1978, some “children of god” were more equal than others…
“My faith has also always told me that in the eyes of God, every individual was merited the fullest degree of happiness in the hereafter and I had no question that African Americans and blacks generally would have every right and every benefit in the hereafter that anyone else had and that God is no respecter of persons.”
So Willard was a heretic before the LDS church changed “its” mind? Naughty, naughty…
So, what I want to know is: Are there actually any Black mormons? And what kind of a self-hating person would join a church that
hates youthinks you are less because of your race?Black mormons are probably a lot like catholic women - they’ve been deluded into embracing their oppressors…
Thank you so much for the list of Huckabee extremism.
I was beginning to think I was taking crazy pills, when even my way liberal friends were saying stuff like, “Huckabee seems like such a nice guy.” Check out this conversation with one of my gay friends:
“I wish Huckabee wasn’t a Republican ‘cause I really like him.”
“You do realize that if Huckabee had his way, you’d be in a Baptist hetero-re-education camp right now?”
“Yeah, but all Republicans are like that. There’s just something about him that seems so nice.”
“So basically you’re saying that you like him except for everything he believes in?”
“Yeah, I do.”
UGGHHH!!! Where is this Kool-Aid and can I get a drink? They all seem so pleasantly brain-washed.
“Who still listens to Lieberman?
Villagers. “
Having just watched The Village again yesterday, I want to say that calling the DC crowd “villagers” is an even bigger insult than I remembered…
In the movie, the villagers are kept isolated from the rest of the world for their protection. The villagers in DC need to be locked away for OUR protection. The problem is they’ve got the levers of power inside with them…
well, Lieberman and McCain can form a “we hatz teh bitchez” club and invite all the little men with passive aggressive anger issues to join to bitcz about the womenz, that uppity, competent Clinton and that irritating black man running for office. Maybe Lieberman makes McCain look attractive and taller in comparison and can be his wing man when they cruze for campaign tail. Sorry. a bit of silliness. I was developing a script for the next TV Funhouse on Saturday Night Live.
Wow, that was a lot more civil than I expected. You came off as very serious (in a good way!); your foil was a bit too perky to be taken seriously in my opinion.
As for Holy Joe? Totally not a shocker, but it really pisses me off.
Somegirls, remember when people were like that about Dubya? That’s what scares the crap out of me about Huckabee: it’d be like Bush only far more fundie.
I think you know very well why Joe “caucuses with the Democrats”: so everyone can pretend that the McCain/Lieberman thing is “bipartisan” and therefore Honest and True.
“Who still listens to Lieberman?”
Villagers.
The media line on this seems to be that an endorsement from Lieberman will help McCain among “independents”. The word “independents” seems to be used in an unusually contrived way here.
Then, before driving home to celebrate, he got out of the car and double-checked that the bungie-cords holding his dog to the roof were secure.
I don’t know about Black Mormons, but the religion has made very successful inroads amongst Pacific Islanders, specifically Samoans and Hawaiians. Honolulu Mayor Mufi Hannemann is Mormon, and it was considered no big deal in these parts.
Full disclosure: I come from Mormons on my mom’s side of the family, but we’re all good atheists now.
I made a prediction months ago that Lieberman would be speaking at the RNC Convention next year and got no takers on a bet. I’ll certainly not be getting any now.
Wow, that was a lot more civil than I expected. You came off as very serious (in a good way!); your foil was a bit too perky to be taken seriously in my opinion.
Tony Harris tried to goad me into being more animated, but there was no way I was going to sit on national TV and give the impression that bloggers are insane.
Pandagonians, please give me feedback. I still can’t bring myself to watch it yet!
“generally”?
I think “generally” means, “persons of dark skin color with historical roots in sub-Saharan Africa who are not part of the ethnic group “African-Americans”
Arrrgh! Joe Lieberman is NOT an Independent Democrat. There’s no such animal and naming a party such is illegal in Connecticut.
He’s a Connecticut for Lieberman party member. Notice it isn’t Lieberman for Connecticut?
I guess he’s just making his campaign lies overt now. He stole Lamont’s campaign and claimed he wanted the war to be over. When he went independent, it gave the Republicans a decent candidate as opposed to the flunky they were running on the real ticket.
Endorsing McCain is just proof that Lieberman is a Republican in Dem clothing.
And what is up with all the McCain endorsements? I know the media and Beltway folk have always liked him, but he was polling so badly. Don’t the opinions of the people even matter anymore? I can’t imagine a paper endorsing anyone other than Clinton or Obama, their selected winners.
Does someone at Diebold owe McCain a favor?
“Does someone at Diebold owe McCain a favor?”
Fortunately, it’s too late for shenanigans not to be obvious.
The only reason Cheney/Bush got away with it was because the results were close. If McCain surges 50% the day of the primary, it will stick out like a soar thumb.
I have no idea what Lie-Berman’s game is, but even he can’t be deluded enough to think this will do anything more than piss off more real Democrats…
I wonder about women that belong to the catholic ‘church’ or the orthodox ‘church’.
How can a woman join in a ‘church’ that finds your entire gender disgusting and not of value except for cleaning and bearing children? It’s one of life’s oddities…
Lieberman is the choice of the Israeli branch of the American government.
He is also an incredible jerk.
One thing that I thank the flying spaghetti monster for is that Gore didn’t win because of the bag of filth that he choose for his veep.
I can only imagine that Lieberman as veep likely would and could have been worse than Darth Cheney… Maybe in different ways but I doubt that he would be as loved as Oil Slick Dick is.
I wonder about women that belong to the catholic ‘church’ or the orthodox ‘church’.
Or queer folks?
But aren’t gays important to the catholic cult? If they purged the ‘church’ of all gays there’d be like what, no popes or bishops and like 5 priests?
There are a number of things that bear repeating.
First: Lieberman is a Democrat in exactly the same way that Kim Philby was an SIS agent.
Second: For all those out there salivating for the possibility that Gore should run for President again, kindly just repeat “Vice President Lieberman” over and over again until you get over it.
Third: Pinky is spot-on. Lieberman is one of the many Israeli ambassadors to the United States, only one of which is an accredited diplomat; the rest are in government. (Cue Dershowitz to accuse me of being an anti-Semite in 3, 2, 1 …)
Lieberman is pretty close to Democrats on domestic policy. Well, except for some moralizing stuff about violent video games (remember the Night Trap hearings)? But Dems seemed to be doing that in the 90s–v-chip, etc.
On foreign policy yeah, hes a hawkish Republican.
And all around hes a sanctimonious prick.
You were fine, but you might want to inject a bit more energy into your presentation. Yes, you don’t want to look insane, but you don’t want to look humorless and condescending, either.
Not that it matters, AtomicFruitbat. He can be “for” something all he wants. But if he ideologically and personally (if not formally) belongs to the GOP and works to ensure their permanent control over the levers of power and debate then that “close” is worth nothing: he will vote for something positive as long as he works avidly to ensure that such votes always lose.
I am both cynical and experienced enough to wonder whether that problem was one of those “accidents” that come with their own evilly smiling quotation marks.Unless you’re female, of course. Then, if you’re raped, you can just walk from hospital to hospital to see if you can find one that will give you EC. Cause heaven forbid we force hospitals to provide proper medical care for women.
Those Catholic hospital officials should be allowed to observe their consciences and refuse to provide contraception if they want. Especially if it only conveniences a rape victim by a few hours/days/years.
I would call bullshit on Mitt as well, but MaJeff beat me to it. Of course he’s okay with black people now, the same way that Jerry Falwell became “okay” with desegregation after the fact.
I don’t know about Black Mormons, but the religion has made very successful inroads amongst Pacific Islanders, specifically Samoans and Hawaiians.
Now, I have absolutely no authority on this but from what other Mormons and people knowing Mormons have told me, but it was explained to me that the “lighter” you are, the closer to “white” you are, and are thus fine.
So, what I want to know is: Are there actually any Black mormons?
Gladys Knight converted and is fairly devout.
(Don’t ask me why I know this - I have no idea. My brain is a veritable font of mostly useless information.)
Okay, tell me this is not an Onion article:
Mormon Church Dissolves Black Bias
Citing new revelation from God, the president of the Mormon Church decreed that for the first time black males could fully participate in church rites.
(that’s from the Romney video, btw. not just a total non sequitur. and forgive me for forgetting block quotes.)
The Democratic party is Joe’s bitch and he knows it. They desperately need him to maintain a majority in the Senate. If he decided to conference with the Republicans I think that would tie it at 50-50, and because Dubya’s a freeper, that’d throw the majority to the GOP, making who - McConnell? - majority leader and giving them all the committee chairmanships. He needs to ride his CfL ticket to maintain enough support among his old dance-with-the-devil-you-know allies in CT to maintain some level of progressive credibility, while he continues to support the war and make love to AIPAC.
I wonder if Joe is going to run again in ‘12. Supporting a Republican for president seems like something even his oldest supporters wouldn’t like. I hope Lamont runs again. It would be nice to have a Humanist in the Senate. Finally.
“The Democratic party is Joe’s bitch and he knows it. They desperately need him to maintain a majority in the Senate.”
Considering all the fine and progressive legislation passed by this congress, and his unwillingness to use his committee chairmanships to investigate his friends in the current mis-administration, It’s not like Lie-Berman is bringing a whole lot to the party.
They should have kicked his ass out immediately after the “Connecticut for Lie-Berman” bullshit. Make him join his favorite party right up front. Let his constituents see the kind of guy he really is.
As far as the Democrats in congress go, better to be an honorable minority party, standing on the courage of their convictions, rather than a “majority” party that stands for nothing more than merely a rubber stamp of a different color for the same Bushite crap that has been rammed through congress since January 2001.
Stand for something, or cower before everything…
But aren’t gays important to the catholic cult? If they purged the ‘church’ of all gays there’d be like what, no popes or bishops and like 5 priests?
Don’t be snarky. Judging by the number of kids they had, some of the popes were real lady-killers.
But that’s just the thing: there’s no cohesion to the party. There are lots of genuinely “Liberal” Dems who vote against torture, against war funding, against telecom immunity, against abortion bans, against discrimination based on sexual orientation, against crony judicial appointments, etc. who are consistently outmaneuvered and rendered impotent by the leadership of our own party. The party as a whole is seen as rubber stamping the Bush post-9/11 agenda because the presidential candidates are catering to centrist voters, our majority leader is a conservative whose only claim to real liberalism is that he will assert the power of the Senate when it’s absolutely necessary, and in the case of the most important issue we’re not doing anything about, impeachment, the Speaker of the House is feeding people the seemingly undisputed line that we can either get business done, OR impeach. As if they can’t be done simultaneously.
The party itself still stands for liberal values. It’s the leadership that’s preventing good committee chairs from pursuing the kind of progressive remedies we need.
Lieberman benefitted from cronyism and the numbers game. The Dems couldn’t alienate him if they wanted the Senate majority. That’s why they gave him all of these cushy jobs:
Armed Services, Member
Environment & Public Works, Member
Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, Chair
Small Business and Entrepreneurship, Member
Subcommittee On Personnel, Member
Subcommittee On Seapower, Member
Subcommittee on Airland, Chair
Subcommittee on Clean Air and Nuclear Safety, Member
Subcommittee on Private Sector and Consumer Solutions to Global Warming and Wildlife Protection, Chair
Subcommittee on Public Sector Solutions to Global Warming, Oversight, and Children’s Health Protection, Member
Fucker milked it, big time. I would love to say the Dems should have just ditched him, but think of the alternative: more Republican committee chairmanships.
deep6, I hear what you’re saying, but I have to ask: If getting half a loaf (which is being VERY generous to the Democrats) means the rest of the country looks at you as if you stole it, maybe it’s better to not accept that particular Devil’s bargain.
“Fucker milked it, big time. I would love to say the Dems should have just ditched him, but think of the alternative: more Republican committee chairmanships.”
The level of respect for the Democrats in congress is already small. How much worse could it have been if they’d kept their pride, jettisoned Traiter Joe, and worked as diligently at being a real party as the evil Rethuglicans have? When they had their asses handed to them in ‘06, the Rethugs just switched gears and continued the fight. Are the Democrats just gutless, or stupid, or both?…
Well, given Holy Joe’s beliefs of convenience, any bets on how long before he becomes one of the “Jews for Jesus”?
Minimum wage increase. No James Inhofe chairing the Environment and Public Works Committee anymore. Social Security is safe from privatization a little longer.
These things, to me, are worth it. But yeah, I know: majority held with no party cohesion, appear weak and spineless, everybody attacks the party; some shit gets done; credibility to get more shit done is weakened by appearance of spinelessness and lack of values definition. Minority held with no party cohesion, still attacked as weak and spineless, just by Republicans and by elected Democrats themselves, no shit gets done, control of agenda means stronger GOP PR and ability to influence propaganda + gerrymandering, making it harder to get Dems elected. Cycle continues.
The Dems aren’t stupid or gutless. They’re owned by somebody other than voters. And they have to serve that corporate constituency with much more care than they serve us. Until we get private money out of the election system, or create a publicly funded election alternative that can beat private funding under the Supreme Court money = free speech precedent, we’re terminally screwed. And so long as the “big tent” strategy is still standing we’re going to keep getting moderate Dems in the midwest who just want farm subsidies and an increase in the minimum wage - to hell with social progressivism - and conservative WHITE Dems in the south who just want greater federal funding for education and some kind of health care - again, to hell with social progressivism. The party establishment is selecting candidates to run who are electable and can bankroll a good portion of their own campaign, even if it means they’re not supporting someone who agrees in any major way with the party platform. On top of that, there’s no organized party to the left of the Dems that can challenge them in federal elections in any meaningful way. Get public funding into the game across the nation, get a functional and credible Green Party… THEN you might see some changes.
The Dems sold their soul to the Evil Cousin of the Flying Spaghetti Monster when they supported Bob Casey over Chuck Penacchio. I knew then, Rahm Emmanuel and Chuck Schumer can suck it.
Leaving on a midnight train… to Utah?
Minimum wage increase. No James Inhofe chairing the Environment and Public Works Committee anymore. Social Security is safe from privatization a little longer.
Well, entry #2 is a definite improvement, but I can’t really say I see anything noteworthy about the other two. Please correct me if I’m wrong, but the minimum wage increase last I checked was small enough that it only applies to a smallish number of states– since the state minimum wages tend to be already higher than the new federal minimum. Meanwhile I don’t think social security was ever really at risk, considering that the Republicans have shown incredible inefficacy at taking on social security even when at the very height of their power.
I guess in the “progress” column we can put better fuel economy standards, and the resumption of congressional oversight leading to, if not public accountability and the rule of law, at least some personnel changes. But the latter’s reach has been a bit less than we might have hoped for, and the former’s reach is a lot less than we might have hoped for…
The Dems coming into office scared Rumsfeld out of the Pentagon. They pressured Gonzales out of office. Definitely excellent personnel changes, not that Gates and Mukasey are on my executive dream team.
I think the minimum wage increase is a very big deal if you live in one of the states that didn’t have a higher minimum wage law. For people who live in poverty, every penny counts. I’d love to see it higher; the legislation wasn’t nearly progressive enough IMO, and even three years out won’t equal the buying power of the minimum wage since its highest point, I think in the sixties, but it’s a good start toward the yearly increases and reasserting that congress does have a responsibility to manage corporate exploitation of workers. Here’s the DOL map of minimum wage laws by state.