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		<title>by: history_mom</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/15/6445/#comment-475075</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Alice:  Please sell your bullshit elsewhere. Most of the posters here are socialist to some degree, so your Libertarian-inspired crap about &quot;why should I have to pay taxes that benefit anybody but me&quot; is pretty much unwelcome. You can pretend that it is because you are an environmentalist, but it's thinly veiled crap we've seen in a dozen other packages.  

Republicans=friends of the environment?  Not in this reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Alice:  Please sell your bullshit elsewhere. Most of the posters here are socialist to some degree, so your Libertarian-inspired crap about &#8220;why should I have to pay taxes that benefit anybody but me&#8221; is pretty much unwelcome. You can pretend that it is because you are an environmentalist, but it&#8217;s thinly veiled crap we&#8217;ve seen in a dozen other packages.  </p>
	<p>Republicans=friends of the environment?  Not in this reality.
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		<title>by: Alice</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/15/6445/#comment-474978</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description> I came accross a shocking statistic. In America, and by
inference in Buncombe County, 2 out of 3 parents are so environmentally
callous that they would turn down even subsidized contraception and
squeeze out babies anyway; which calls into question the ability of local
contraception funding to save the planet from overpopulation. 

But in that case there is something else a county can do and that is to
stop susidizing parenthood. It is fundamental that the responsibility to
fund schools, childcare, playgrounds and ballfields lies exclusively with
parents. 

So how is it fair that I, as a taxpaying nonparent, should be subsidizing
such reproductive activities? There is no ethical construct by which that
is fair. So since none of you seem to be funding contraception anyway, I
might as well vote for those who would defund parenthood, while
contraception and abortion are so cost effective that funds can be raised
privately. And of course that would, and does, switch me to the true
party of the environment, affordable housing and direct democracy, the
Republicans. 

The Republicans help the environment by cutting or attempting to cut
parental subsidies like playgrounds, childcare, ballfields and public
schools, which is effective against overpopulation in a society in which
most babies are planned. 

Local Republicans oppose zoning which is bad for affordable housing, and
Nathan Ramsey alone proposed a direct democratic referndum on zoning,
which makes the Republicans the party of direct democracy. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I came accross a shocking statistic. In America, and by<br />
inference in Buncombe County, 2 out of 3 parents are so environmentally<br />
callous that they would turn down even subsidized contraception and<br />
squeeze out babies anyway; which calls into question the ability of local<br />
contraception funding to save the planet from overpopulation. </p>
	<p>But in that case there is something else a county can do and that is to<br />
stop susidizing parenthood. It is fundamental that the responsibility to<br />
fund schools, childcare, playgrounds and ballfields lies exclusively with<br />
parents. </p>
	<p>So how is it fair that I, as a taxpaying nonparent, should be subsidizing<br />
such reproductive activities? There is no ethical construct by which that<br />
is fair. So since none of you seem to be funding contraception anyway, I<br />
might as well vote for those who would defund parenthood, while<br />
contraception and abortion are so cost effective that funds can be raised<br />
privately. And of course that would, and does, switch me to the true<br />
party of the environment, affordable housing and direct democracy, the<br />
Republicans. </p>
	<p>The Republicans help the environment by cutting or attempting to cut<br />
parental subsidies like playgrounds, childcare, ballfields and public<br />
schools, which is effective against overpopulation in a society in which<br />
most babies are planned. </p>
	<p>Local Republicans oppose zoning which is bad for affordable housing, and<br />
Nathan Ramsey alone proposed a direct democratic referndum on zoning,<br />
which makes the Republicans the party of direct democracy.
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		<title>by: Alice</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/15/6445/#comment-474976</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/15/6445/#comment-474976</guid>
					<description>
Meet the women who won't have babies - because they're not eco friendly
By NATASHA COURTENAY-SMITH and MORAG TURNER - More by this author »
Last updated at 22:05pm on 21st November 2007

 Comments (30) 
Had Toni Vernelli gone ahead with her pregnancy ten years ago, she would
know at first hand what it is like to cradle her own baby, to have a pair
of innocent eyes gazing up at her with unconditional love, to feel a
little hand slipping into hers - and a voice calling her Mummy. 


But the very thought makes her shudder with horror. 

Because when Toni terminated her pregnancy, she did so in the firm belief
she was helping to save the planet. 

Scroll down for more... 


Desperate measures: Toni Vernelli was steralised at age 27 to reduce her
carbon footprint


Incredibly, so determined was she that the terrible &quot;mistake&quot; of
pregnancy should never happen again, that she begged the doctor who
performed the abortion to sterilise her at the same time. 


He refused, but Toni - who works for an environmental charity -
&quot;relentlessly hunted down a doctor who would perform the irreversible
surgery. 


Finally, eight years ago, Toni got her way. 

At the age of 27 this young woman at the height of her reproductive years
was sterilised to &quot;protect the planet&quot;. 

Incredibly, instead of mourning the loss of a family that never was, her
boyfriend (now husband) presented her with a congratulations card. 


While some might think it strange to celebrate the reversal of nature and
denial of motherhood, Toni relishes her decision with an almost religious
zeal. 


&quot;Having children is selfish. It's all about maintaining your genetic line
at the expense of the planet,&quot; says Toni, 35. 

&quot;Every person who is born uses more food, more water, more land, more
fossil fuels, more trees and produces more rubbish, more pollution, more
greenhouse gases, and adds to the problem of over-population.&quot; 

While most parents view their children as the ultimate miracle of nature,
Toni seems to see them as a sinister threat to the future.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=495495&amp;amp;in_page_id=1&amp;amp;in_page_id=1&amp;amp;expand=true

http://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/68190-political-towns-extreme-places-political-relocation.html 

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.childfree/browse_thread/thread/433390c60614cc23/442c33182294bb85?hl=en
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/TurningPoints/story?id=3747045&amp;amp;page=1
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Why_breed/
http://freetownproject.com/ 
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=2140483&amp;amp;page=1 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascadia 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Exodus 
http://christianexodus.org 
http://news.scotsman.com/opinion.cfm?id=1918592007
http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3401106 
http://www.projectprevention.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Meet the women who won&#8217;t have babies - because they&#8217;re not eco friendly<br />
By NATASHA COURTENAY-SMITH and MORAG TURNER - More by this author »<br />
Last updated at 22:05pm on 21st November 2007</p>
	<p> Comments (30)<br />
Had Toni Vernelli gone ahead with her pregnancy ten years ago, she would<br />
know at first hand what it is like to cradle her own baby, to have a pair<br />
of innocent eyes gazing up at her with unconditional love, to feel a<br />
little hand slipping into hers - and a voice calling her Mummy. </p>
	<p>But the very thought makes her shudder with horror. </p>
	<p>Because when Toni terminated her pregnancy, she did so in the firm belief<br />
she was helping to save the planet. </p>
	<p>Scroll down for more&#8230; </p>
	<p>Desperate measures: Toni Vernelli was steralised at age 27 to reduce her<br />
carbon footprint</p>
	<p>Incredibly, so determined was she that the terrible &#8220;mistake&#8221; of<br />
pregnancy should never happen again, that she begged the doctor who<br />
performed the abortion to sterilise her at the same time. </p>
	<p>He refused, but Toni - who works for an environmental charity -<br />
&#8220;relentlessly hunted down a doctor who would perform the irreversible<br />
surgery. </p>
	<p>Finally, eight years ago, Toni got her way. </p>
	<p>At the age of 27 this young woman at the height of her reproductive years<br />
was sterilised to &#8220;protect the planet&#8221;. </p>
	<p>Incredibly, instead of mourning the loss of a family that never was, her<br />
boyfriend (now husband) presented her with a congratulations card. </p>
	<p>While some might think it strange to celebrate the reversal of nature and<br />
denial of motherhood, Toni relishes her decision with an almost religious<br />
zeal. </p>
	<p>&#8220;Having children is selfish. It&#8217;s all about maintaining your genetic line<br />
at the expense of the planet,&#8221; says Toni, 35. </p>
	<p>&#8220;Every person who is born uses more food, more water, more land, more<br />
fossil fuels, more trees and produces more rubbish, more pollution, more<br />
greenhouse gases, and adds to the problem of over-population.&#8221; </p>
	<p>While most parents view their children as the ultimate miracle of nature,<br />
Toni seems to see them as a sinister threat to the future.</p>
	<p><a href='http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=495495&amp;in_page_id=1&amp;in_page_id=1&amp;expand=true' rel='nofollow'>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=495495&amp;in_page_id=1&amp;in_page_id=1&amp;expand=true</a></p>
	<p><a href='http://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/68190-political-towns-extreme-places-political-relocation.html' rel='nofollow'>http://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/68190-political-towns-extreme-places-political-relocation.html</a> </p>
	<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.childfree/browse_thread/thread/433390c60614cc23/442c33182294bb85?hl=en' rel='nofollow'>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.childfree/browse_thread/thread/433390c60614cc23/442c33182294bb85?hl=en</a><br />
<a href='http://abcnews.go.com/Health/TurningPoints/story?id=3747045&amp;page=1' rel='nofollow'>http://abcnews.go.com/Health/TurningPoints/story?id=3747045&amp;page=1</a><br />
<a href='http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Why_breed/' rel='nofollow'>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Why_breed/</a><br />
<a href='http://freetownproject.com/' rel='nofollow'>http://freetownproject.com/</a><br />
<a href='http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=2140483&amp;page=1' rel='nofollow'>http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=2140483&amp;page=1</a><br />
<a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascadia' rel='nofollow'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascadia</a><br />
<a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Exodus' rel='nofollow'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Exodus</a><br />
<a href='http://christianexodus.org' rel='nofollow'>http://christianexodus.org</a><br />
<a href='http://news.scotsman.com/opinion.cfm?id=1918592007' rel='nofollow'>http://news.scotsman.com/opinion.cfm?id=1918592007</a><br />
<a href='http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3401106' rel='nofollow'>http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3401106</a><br />
<a href='http://www.projectprevention.org' rel='nofollow'>http://www.projectprevention.org</a>
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		<title>by: P-hideous</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/15/6445/#comment-474973</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Sorry for the double post, and I also spelled Fascist. I need to not post at 2am :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Sorry for the double post, and I also spelled Fascist. I need to not post at 2am <img src='http://pandagon.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: P-hideous</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/15/6445/#comment-474780</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>elizabeth, America itself is not overpopulated as a whole, if you want overpopulation look at India or China. 

As far as a tax on people for having children that is utter rubbish. I will have made under 25k this year I have a wife that stays at home and is a college student and a son who is just over one year old. We paid cash for his entire birth from the OB, to the hospital an over 12k expense and ohh yeah we have no health insurance because rates for the selfemployed are insane. Are you saying that only the rich should be able to &quot;Breed&quot;? The result would be violent revolution. 

Entitlement Moocow? What is she acting entitled to? Having a child? At least she isn't proposing a Procreation Gestapo. With your &quot;tax&quot; America would become a Facist state! How else would you enforce it? There are too many who couldn't afford to pay it.

To the main subject, I am sad to admit I am guilty of undervaluing my wife in many ways, she is a SAHM/WAHM, I say WAHM because she is working on her thesis. I have degraded her about her school goals because unfortunatly even with a degree she will not have great earning power. I have openly begrudged having to give her money, and done many of the typical &quot;sexist husband&quot; things that have been mentioned. However I do not think I am a misogynist by nature, just an idiot. My wife is horribly unhappy and I cannot blame her, after we got a hairsbreath away from divorce I finally saw what she was dealing with and I am now trying to open myself to the difficulties that she has to deal with on a day to day basis I am here to confront my own personal demons and to remind myself that she is my equal in every way and that she has a much harder job than I do. 

I don't know if I could be a full time SAHD. It is incredibly difficult to take care of a child for one day much less everyday.
From my personal experience I belive the study is valid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>elizabeth, America itself is not overpopulated as a whole, if you want overpopulation look at India or China. </p>
	<p>As far as a tax on people for having children that is utter rubbish. I will have made under 25k this year I have a wife that stays at home and is a college student and a son who is just over one year old. We paid cash for his entire birth from the OB, to the hospital an over 12k expense and ohh yeah we have no health insurance because rates for the selfemployed are insane. Are you saying that only the rich should be able to &#8220;Breed&#8221;? The result would be violent revolution. </p>
	<p>Entitlement Moocow? What is she acting entitled to? Having a child? At least she isn&#8217;t proposing a Procreation Gestapo. With your &#8220;tax&#8221; America would become a Facist state! How else would you enforce it? There are too many who couldn&#8217;t afford to pay it.</p>
	<p>To the main subject, I am sad to admit I am guilty of undervaluing my wife in many ways, she is a SAHM/WAHM, I say WAHM because she is working on her thesis. I have degraded her about her school goals because unfortunatly even with a degree she will not have great earning power. I have openly begrudged having to give her money, and done many of the typical &#8220;sexist husband&#8221; things that have been mentioned. However I do not think I am a misogynist by nature, just an idiot. My wife is horribly unhappy and I cannot blame her, after we got a hairsbreath away from divorce I finally saw what she was dealing with and I am now trying to open myself to the difficulties that she has to deal with on a day to day basis I am here to confront my own personal demons and to remind myself that she is my equal in every way and that she has a much harder job than I do. </p>
	<p>I don&#8217;t know if I could be a full time SAHD. It is incredibly difficult to take care of a child for one day much less everyday.<br />
From my personal experience I belive the study is valid.
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		<title>by: P-hideous</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/15/6445/#comment-474779</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>elizabeth, America itself is not overpopulated as a whole, if you want overpopulation look at India or China. 

As far as a tax on people for having children that is utter rubbish. I will have made under 25k this year I have a wife that stays at home and is a college student and a son who is just over one year old. We paid cash for his entire birth from the OB, to the hospital an over 12k expense and ohh yeah we have no health insurance because rates for the selfemployed are insane. Are you saying that only the rich should be able to &quot;Breed&quot;? The result would be violent revolution. 

Entitlement Moocow? What is she acting entitled to? Having a child? At least she isn't proposing a Procreation Gestapo. With your &quot;tax&quot; America would become a Facist state! How else would you enforce it? There are too many who couldn't afford to pay it.

To the main subject, I am sad to admit I am guilty of undervaluing my wife in many ways, she is a SAHM/WAHM, I say WAHM because she is working on her thesis. I have degraded her about her school goals because unfortunatly even with a degree she will not have great earning power. I have openly begrudged having to give her money, and done many of the typical &quot;sexist husband&quot; things that have been mentioned. However I do not think I am a misogynist by nature, just an idiot. My wife is horribly unhappy and I cannot blame her, after we got a hairsbreath away from divorce I finally saw what she was dealing with and I am now trying to open myself to the difficulties that she has to deal with on a day to day basis I am here to confront my own personal demons and to remind myself that she is my equal in every way and that she has a much harder job than I do. 

I don't know if I could be a full time SAHD. It is incredibly difficult to take care of a child for one day much less everyday.
From my personal experience I belive the study is valid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>elizabeth, America itself is not overpopulated as a whole, if you want overpopulation look at India or China. </p>
	<p>As far as a tax on people for having children that is utter rubbish. I will have made under 25k this year I have a wife that stays at home and is a college student and a son who is just over one year old. We paid cash for his entire birth from the OB, to the hospital an over 12k expense and ohh yeah we have no health insurance because rates for the selfemployed are insane. Are you saying that only the rich should be able to &#8220;Breed&#8221;? The result would be violent revolution. </p>
	<p>Entitlement Moocow? What is she acting entitled to? Having a child? At least she isn&#8217;t proposing a Procreation Gestapo. With your &#8220;tax&#8221; America would become a Facist state! How else would you enforce it? There are too many who couldn&#8217;t afford to pay it.</p>
	<p>To the main subject, I am sad to admit I am guilty of undervaluing my wife in many ways, she is a SAHM/WAHM, I say WAHM because she is working on her thesis. I have degraded her about her school goals because unfortunatly even with a degree she will not have great earning power. I have openly begrudged having to give her money, and done many of the typical &#8220;sexist husband&#8221; things that have been mentioned. However I do not think I am a misogynist by nature, just an idiot. My wife is horribly unhappy and I cannot blame her, after we got a hairsbreath away from divorce I finally saw what she was dealing with and I am now trying to open myself to the difficulties that she has to deal with on a day to day basis I am here to confront my own personal demons and to remind myself that she is my equal in every way and that she has a much harder job than I do. </p>
	<p>I don&#8217;t know if I could be a full time SAHD. It is incredibly difficult to take care of a child for one day much less everyday.<br />
From my personal experience I belive the study is valid.
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		<title>by: mythago</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/15/6445/#comment-474773</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;You are the sort of Entitlement Moocow&lt;/i&gt;

Proof that for some women, the label &quot;childfree&quot; is just one more way to be an exceptionalist.

&lt;i&gt;I suspect that the other side of that coin is true too, men who are SAHDs are perceived as less than manly.&lt;/i&gt;

By other men? Sure, they're making the team look bad. By other women? There's probably a local shrine somewhere. And don't get started on how breadwinner wives are regarded. I've had to get more than a little shirty at school officials who can't figure out that they should call home, not my work, if they need to reach a parent immediately, or who make comments about how nice it is to &lt;i&gt;finally&lt;/i&gt; meet me at a parent conference. Because, you know, that's a mommy's job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>You are the sort of Entitlement Moocow</i></p>
	<p>Proof that for some women, the label &#8220;childfree&#8221; is just one more way to be an exceptionalist.</p>
	<p><i>I suspect that the other side of that coin is true too, men who are SAHDs are perceived as less than manly.</i></p>
	<p>By other men? Sure, they&#8217;re making the team look bad. By other women? There&#8217;s probably a local shrine somewhere. And don&#8217;t get started on how breadwinner wives are regarded. I&#8217;ve had to get more than a little shirty at school officials who can&#8217;t figure out that they should call home, not my work, if they need to reach a parent immediately, or who make comments about how nice it is to <i>finally</i> meet me at a parent conference. Because, you know, that&#8217;s a mommy&#8217;s job.
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		<title>by: history_mom</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/15/6445/#comment-474769</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Elizabeth: With your asinine comments, it is you who should be concerned about a lack of brain power.  And don't patronize me with the &quot;dearie&quot; crap, you misanthropic fucktard.

Given that reproduction is the default for the majority of people, your comments don't even merit discussion. But if you want to have an actual discussion about overpopulation, instead of going on batshit insane rants, why don't you address these issues:

1) Instead of taxing people for having children, make contraception and comprehensive sex education more widely accessible to the masses.  Both have been shown to reduce unwanted pregnancies.

2) Provide a social support system that would increase the standards of living for the poorest in our society; improve the educational system so that more people can obtain work as skilled labor.

3) Figure out a way to resolve the extreme levels of poverty globally-- y'know, the places where the birthrate is actually significantly higher than here.

4) Teach children the importance of green living.

5) Get your head out of your ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Elizabeth: With your asinine comments, it is you who should be concerned about a lack of brain power.  And don&#8217;t patronize me with the &#8220;dearie&#8221; crap, you misanthropic fucktard.</p>
	<p>Given that reproduction is the default for the majority of people, your comments don&#8217;t even merit discussion. But if you want to have an actual discussion about overpopulation, instead of going on batshit insane rants, why don&#8217;t you address these issues:</p>
	<p>1) Instead of taxing people for having children, make contraception and comprehensive sex education more widely accessible to the masses.  Both have been shown to reduce unwanted pregnancies.</p>
	<p>2) Provide a social support system that would increase the standards of living for the poorest in our society; improve the educational system so that more people can obtain work as skilled labor.</p>
	<p>3) Figure out a way to resolve the extreme levels of poverty globally&#8211; y&#8217;know, the places where the birthrate is actually significantly higher than here.</p>
	<p>4) Teach children the importance of green living.</p>
	<p>5) Get your head out of your ass.
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		<title>by: chingona</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/15/6445/#comment-474755</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Can I get a t-shirt that says Entitlement Moocow?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Can I get a t-shirt that says Entitlement Moocow?
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		<title>by: Av0gadro</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/15/6445/#comment-474681</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/15/6445/#comment-474681</guid>
					<description>Elizabeth, you can't possibly think (I hope) that &lt;i&gt;everyone&lt;/i&gt; should stop breeding and the species should die out, right? And if some people have to breed, wouldn't you rather that some of those people be the liberal, well-educated people who care about the environment? I mean, we could leave all the breeding to the Quiverfull movement and they could raise kids who think it's their job to have as many of their own kids as possible and use up as many resources as they want with no consesquences. Or some of us could breed children who will understand that the environment is fragile and that we need problem-solvers.

I agree that overpopulation is a problem, but I reject the idea that anyone who has a child is irresponsible. People can be horribly destructive, but they can be pretty inventive and awesome too. I'm sorry that you only see the bad. It must be sad to hate yourself so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Elizabeth, you can&#8217;t possibly think (I hope) that <i>everyone</i> should stop breeding and the species should die out, right? And if some people have to breed, wouldn&#8217;t you rather that some of those people be the liberal, well-educated people who care about the environment? I mean, we could leave all the breeding to the Quiverfull movement and they could raise kids who think it&#8217;s their job to have as many of their own kids as possible and use up as many resources as they want with no consesquences. Or some of us could breed children who will understand that the environment is fragile and that we need problem-solvers.</p>
	<p>I agree that overpopulation is a problem, but I reject the idea that anyone who has a child is irresponsible. People can be horribly destructive, but they can be pretty inventive and awesome too. I&#8217;m sorry that you only see the bad. It must be sad to hate yourself so much.
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