Comments on: More men come forward with allegations about sex encounters with Larry Craig http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/02/more-men-come-forward-with-about-sex-with-larry-craig/ Just another WordPress weblog Wed, 08 Feb 2012 21:20:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: Henry Holland http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/02/more-men-come-forward-with-about-sex-with-larry-craig/#comment-471050 Mon, 03 Dec 2007 20:19:59 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/02/more-men-come-forward-with-about-sex-with-larry-craig/#comment-471050 <i>Craig isn’t gay. He just has sex with men now and again. Totally different</i> True. I mean, if he's * getting blown, not giving the BJ * the top, not the bottom * doesn't kiss the guy he's having sex with * doesn't engage in cuddling or extended foreplay he's straight, that's obvious. Right? [the * are just some of the rationalizations I've heard over the years] Craig isn’t gay. He just has sex with men now and again. Totally different

True. I mean, if he’s

* getting blown, not giving the BJ
* the top, not the bottom
* doesn’t kiss the guy he’s having sex with
* doesn’t engage in cuddling or extended foreplay

he’s straight, that’s obvious.

Right?

[the * are just some of the rationalizations I’ve heard over the years]

]]> by: Frederick http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/02/more-men-come-forward-with-about-sex-with-larry-craig/#comment-470960 Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:48:25 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/02/more-men-come-forward-with-about-sex-with-larry-craig/#comment-470960 Craig isn't gay. He just has sex with men now and again. <i>Totally</i> different. Craig's much like the guy who wrote to Dan Savage, signing his name "200% Straight," who wondered whether it was at all problematic that he'd been going to a male masseuse every week for the last six months, and the masseuse blew him at the end of each session. (Maybe one has to be 400% Straight to not get blown by a male masseuse weekly?) The human capacity for rationalization knows no bounds. Craig isn’t gay. He just has sex with men now and again. Totally different. Craig’s much like the guy who wrote to Dan Savage, signing his name “200% Straight,” who wondered whether it was at all problematic that he’d been going to a male masseuse every week for the last six months, and the masseuse blew him at the end of each session. (Maybe one has to be 400% Straight to not get blown by a male masseuse weekly?) The human capacity for rationalization knows no bounds.

]]> by: Godmonkey http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/02/more-men-come-forward-with-about-sex-with-larry-craig/#comment-470956 Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:39:04 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/02/more-men-come-forward-with-about-sex-with-larry-craig/#comment-470956 Oops, girlfriend. I swear it wasn't a Freudian slip. Oops, girlfriend. I swear it wasn’t a Freudian slip.

]]> by: Godmonkey http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/02/more-men-come-forward-with-about-sex-with-larry-craig/#comment-470955 Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:37:44 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/02/more-men-come-forward-with-about-sex-with-larry-craig/#comment-470955 Bush is a shape-shifting lizard from a race of reptiles that lives behind the moon. They are originally from a nother galaxy, but are infiltrating human affairs. I would provide the link, but it's hard to link to "The One-Half Cherokee Speed Freak Biker Dude I Met at a Dallas Dive Bar Called the Goat in 2002." Most ominous thing, he assured me that my (not-there-at-the-time) girlfiend would know exactly what he meant, as she was nominally Sufi and this was the fulfillment of an arcane Sufi prophecy. (When I mentioned it, all she said was, <i>Don't take your shirt off in the bedroom, it stinks like 300 ashtrays.</i>) Well, link or no link, methinks Amanda has some serious splainin' to do. Bush is a shape-shifting lizard from a race of reptiles that lives behind the moon. They are originally from a nother galaxy, but are infiltrating human affairs. I would provide the link, but it’s hard to link to “The One-Half Cherokee Speed Freak Biker Dude I Met at a Dallas Dive Bar Called the Goat in 2002.” Most ominous thing, he assured me that my (not-there-at-the-time) girlfiend would know exactly what he meant, as she was nominally Sufi and this was the fulfillment of an arcane Sufi prophecy. (When I mentioned it, all she said was, Don’t take your shirt off in the bedroom, it stinks like 300 ashtrays.)

Well, link or no link, methinks Amanda has some serious splainin’ to do.

]]> by: deep6 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/02/more-men-come-forward-with-about-sex-with-larry-craig/#comment-470868 Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:47:04 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/02/more-men-come-forward-with-about-sex-with-larry-craig/#comment-470868 Dana, the purpose of the article was expressed entirely in the title, "More men come forward with allegations about sex encounters with Larry Craig". Even you should be able to figure that one out. Why do you feel so defensive about the Craig scandal that you would circulate links to *a different site* to discuss its passing of rumors about a completely different person unrelated to this story? Thanks for letting me know about the Rice sexuality issue though. Last I heard she thought Bush was her husband. Dana, the purpose of the article was expressed entirely in the title, “More men come forward with allegations about sex encounters with Larry Craig”. Even you should be able to figure that one out.

Why do you feel so defensive about the Craig scandal that you would circulate links to *a different site* to discuss its passing of rumors about a completely different person unrelated to this story?

Thanks for letting me know about the Rice sexuality issue though. Last I heard she thought Bush was her husband.

]]> by: Rob, (verb)er of (noun)s http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/02/more-men-come-forward-with-about-sex-with-larry-craig/#comment-470772 Mon, 03 Dec 2007 09:29:13 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/02/more-men-come-forward-with-about-sex-with-larry-craig/#comment-470772 Dana, if somebody <i>unaffiliated with Pandagon</i> is insinuating or flat out stating that Condi is gay on Democratic Underground, and this bothers you, it would seem to make sense for you to take it up with them on Democratic Underground. This particular thread is about Larry Craig, specifically the new information that's come to light, and you've got a forum (literally) to talk about the Condi thing elsewhere. Dana, if somebody unaffiliated with Pandagon is insinuating or flat out stating that Condi is gay on Democratic Underground, and this bothers you, it would seem to make sense for you to take it up with them on Democratic Underground.

This particular thread is about Larry Craig, specifically the new information that’s come to light, and you’ve got a forum (literally) to talk about the Condi thing elsewhere.

]]> by: Jesurgislac http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/02/more-men-come-forward-with-about-sex-with-larry-craig/#comment-470769 Mon, 03 Dec 2007 08:51:19 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/02/more-men-come-forward-with-about-sex-with-larry-craig/#comment-470769 Samantha: <i>In short, Dana is accusing *us* of having a reaction none of us had, simply because someone elsewhere is treating her rather ordinary private life as scandalous, which it isn’t.</i> Yep. And of course Dana isn't going to respond to <i>that</i> point, being just bright enough to see he'd better not. Samantha: In short, Dana is accusing *us* of having a reaction none of us had, simply because someone elsewhere is treating her rather ordinary private life as scandalous, which it isn’t.

Yep. And of course Dana isn’t going to respond to that point, being just bright enough to see he’d better not.

]]> by: Jesurgislac http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/02/more-men-come-forward-with-about-sex-with-larry-craig/#comment-470768 Mon, 03 Dec 2007 08:50:27 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/02/more-men-come-forward-with-about-sex-with-larry-craig/#comment-470768 Dana: <i>, the Hillary Clinton and her aide story wasn’t one I ever addressed. </i> Wow, you've got chutzpah! <i>Obviously</i> you've never addressed it - it's a story about conservatives spreading what they think of as a damaging rumor about the front-runner Presidential candidate. But the hell. You bloviate about how you're "waiting on Amanda" to "explain why" - irrelevantly, double-irrelevantly, yet for some reason this doesn't apply to you? Why Amanda hasn't banned you from trolling Pandagon yet is a mystery: I suppose you provide amusement value, at least. Dana: , the Hillary Clinton and her aide story wasn’t one I ever addressed.

Wow, you’ve got chutzpah! Obviously you’ve never addressed it - it’s a story about conservatives spreading what they think of as a damaging rumor about the front-runner Presidential candidate.

But the hell. You bloviate about how you’re “waiting on Amanda” to “explain why” - irrelevantly, double-irrelevantly, yet for some reason this doesn’t apply to you? Why Amanda hasn’t banned you from trolling Pandagon yet is a mystery: I suppose you provide amusement value, at least.

]]> by: Dana http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/02/more-men-come-forward-with-about-sex-with-larry-craig/#comment-470766 Mon, 03 Dec 2007 08:42:55 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/02/more-men-come-forward-with-about-sex-with-larry-craig/#comment-470766 J, the Hillary Clinton and her aide story wasn't one I ever addressed. Last I heard it was probably faked. J, the Hillary Clinton and her aide story wasn’t one I ever addressed. Last I heard it was probably faked.

]]> by: Arun http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/02/more-men-come-forward-with-about-sex-with-larry-craig/#comment-470765 Mon, 03 Dec 2007 08:40:07 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/02/more-men-come-forward-with-about-sex-with-larry-craig/#comment-470765 What concerns me about Condi Rice is the narrowness of her expertise in foreign policy, and her dismal performance as National Security Adviser. To make allegations about her sex life, or to make allegations about alleged smears of Ms Rice, is, IMO, a convenient red herring so that the real problems of Ms Rice are not discussed. Ms Rice's job performance, btw, is infinitely more crucial to the country than one Sen. Craig. What concerns me about Condi Rice is the narrowness of her expertise in foreign policy, and her dismal performance as National Security Adviser.

To make allegations about her sex life, or to make allegations about alleged smears of Ms Rice, is, IMO, a convenient red herring so that the real problems of Ms Rice are not discussed.

Ms Rice’s job performance, btw, is infinitely more crucial to the country than one Sen. Craig.

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