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		<title>by: Erika</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/01/what-middle-class/#comment-471764</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Rent costs have stayed the same over the past few years.  It's only the cost of buying a home that has gotten out of control and the market is currently bringing those costs down to a more reasonable level.

I'd also like to note that, in the long run, pensions are extremely unstable.  They are predicated on the assumption of population growth/an ever-increasing pool of workers entering the workforce.  That's unsustainable and just simply isn't going to happen.  Over the next several decades, the U.S. is going to be looking at population decline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Rent costs have stayed the same over the past few years.  It&#8217;s only the cost of buying a home that has gotten out of control and the market is currently bringing those costs down to a more reasonable level.</p>
	<p>I&#8217;d also like to note that, in the long run, pensions are extremely unstable.  They are predicated on the assumption of population growth/an ever-increasing pool of workers entering the workforce.  That&#8217;s unsustainable and just simply isn&#8217;t going to happen.  Over the next several decades, the U.S. is going to be looking at population decline.
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		<title>by: octogalore</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/01/what-middle-class/#comment-471698</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 12:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>NOOQ -- Why do you think I ignored the word?  In fact, I didn't.

Phoenician -- I didn't think you were either of those.  It still told me all I needed to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>NOOQ &#8212; Why do you think I ignored the word?  In fact, I didn&#8217;t.</p>
	<p>Phoenician &#8212; I didn&#8217;t think you were either of those.  It still told me all I needed to know.
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		<title>by: No One of Consequence</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/01/what-middle-class/#comment-471519</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 19:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;octogalore
December 4, 2007 at 10:04 am

NOOQ: you accused me of missing a word which, in fact, I didn’t miss. That is a false claim, or at minimum a false suggestion.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You didn't miss the word. You ignored it -- see post #129. And this is not the first time I have pointed out your deliberate obfuscations. If you had simply acknowledged your error, you would have at least seemed worth respecting. Instead, you pick an nonexistant nit. . . and we are still left with the conclusion that you cannot recognize absurdity when it occurs. You must be the death knell of every party that you happen to wander into. Your stupidity has ceased to amuse, I'm afraid. Twits get boring after awhile.

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;Phoenician in a time of Romans
December 4, 2007 at 4:18 pm 
This would be my example which was a clearly joking remark made by someone else completely, would it?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thank GOD someone still recognizes humor.

I actually have this reoccuring nightmare that there will be a nuclear war but most of humanity survives but everyone loses their sense of humor except me and I, in insane frustration, resort to using a shotgun to mow down the last remnants of humanity collecting health packs and quad damage along the --

-- Wait, that might be my marathon game of quake I played a few years back. Either way it's pretty fucked up and I probably shouldn't have been able to get a gun license so easily, but hey, the state says it's cool for me to have semiautos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote cite=""><p>octogalore<br />
December 4, 2007 at 10:04 am</p>
	<p>NOOQ: you accused me of missing a word which, in fact, I didn’t miss. That is a false claim, or at minimum a false suggestion.</p></blockquote>
	<p>You didn&#8217;t miss the word. You ignored it &#8212; see post #129. And this is not the first time I have pointed out your deliberate obfuscations. If you had simply acknowledged your error, you would have at least seemed worth respecting. Instead, you pick an nonexistant nit. . . and we are still left with the conclusion that you cannot recognize absurdity when it occurs. You must be the death knell of every party that you happen to wander into. Your stupidity has ceased to amuse, I&#8217;m afraid. Twits get boring after awhile.</p>
	<blockquote cite=""><p>Phoenician in a time of Romans<br />
December 4, 2007 at 4:18 pm<br />
This would be my example which was a clearly joking remark made by someone else completely, would it?</p></blockquote>
	<p>Thank GOD someone still recognizes humor.</p>
	<p>I actually have this reoccuring nightmare that there will be a nuclear war but most of humanity survives but everyone loses their sense of humor except me and I, in insane frustration, resort to using a shotgun to mow down the last remnants of humanity collecting health packs and quad damage along the &#8212;</p>
	<p>&#8212; Wait, that might be my marathon game of quake I played a few years back. Either way it&#8217;s pretty fucked up and I probably shouldn&#8217;t have been able to get a gun license so easily, but hey, the state says it&#8217;s cool for me to have semiautos.
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		<title>by: Phoenician in a time of Romans</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/01/what-middle-class/#comment-471497</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 18:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;Net usage stats? That explains a lot. Thanks for the clarification.&lt;/i&gt;

And what do you believe it explains?  Clue: I'm not tech support or a systems operator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Net usage stats? That explains a lot. Thanks for the clarification.</i></p>
	<p>And what do you believe it explains?  Clue: I&#8217;m not tech support or a systems operator.
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		<title>by: octogalore</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/01/what-middle-class/#comment-471483</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/01/what-middle-class/#comment-471483</guid>
					<description>Net usage stats?  That explains a lot.   Thanks for the clarification.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Net usage stats?  That explains a lot.   Thanks for the clarification.
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		<title>by: Phoenician in a time of Romans</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/01/what-middle-class/#comment-471456</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;Phoenician: whether or not you are paid to write precisely, you clearly are not paid for anything involving mathematics.&lt;/i&gt;

Drat - I have to do the end-of-month net usage statistics for the unit too.  Thanks for reminding me.

&lt;i&gt;Your time/money example was incorrect, and you haven’t been able to justify it.&lt;/i&gt;

This would be my example which was a clearly joking remark made by &lt;a href=&quot;http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/01/what-middle-class/#comment-470617&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;someone else completely&lt;/a&gt;, would it?

Your powers of observation are exceeded only by your magnificent grasp of the complexities of human communication.

&lt;i&gt;Please accept that I did, in fact, earn a degree in a technical field in which this stuff was a prerequisite.&lt;/i&gt;

Given the stuff I've seen on the state of American education, it wouldn't surprise me at all...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Phoenician: whether or not you are paid to write precisely, you clearly are not paid for anything involving mathematics.</i></p>
	<p>Drat - I have to do the end-of-month net usage statistics for the unit too.  Thanks for reminding me.</p>
	<p><i>Your time/money example was incorrect, and you haven’t been able to justify it.</i></p>
	<p>This would be my example which was a clearly joking remark made by <a href="http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/01/what-middle-class/#comment-470617" rel="nofollow">someone else completely</a>, would it?</p>
	<p>Your powers of observation are exceeded only by your magnificent grasp of the complexities of human communication.</p>
	<p><i>Please accept that I did, in fact, earn a degree in a technical field in which this stuff was a prerequisite.</i></p>
	<p>Given the stuff I&#8217;ve seen on the state of American education, it wouldn&#8217;t surprise me at all&#8230;
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		<title>by: Raine</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/01/what-middle-class/#comment-471221</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 10:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Grendelkahn: &quot;I fill in the blanks by faintly remembering something I heard once and Googling it up to see if I’m right, which is what I assume everyone else does.&quot;

Indeed!  Thanks!  I'll take a look at those links...good reading for the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Grendelkahn: &#8220;I fill in the blanks by faintly remembering something I heard once and Googling it up to see if I’m right, which is what I assume everyone else does.&#8221;</p>
	<p>Indeed!  Thanks!  I&#8217;ll take a look at those links&#8230;good reading for the day.
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		<title>by: octogalore</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/01/what-middle-class/#comment-471220</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 10:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/01/what-middle-class/#comment-471220</guid>
					<description>NOOQ: you accused me of missing a word which, in fact, I didn't miss.  That is a false claim, or at minimum a false suggestion.

Phoenician: whether or not you are paid to write precisely, you clearly are not paid for anything involving mathematics.  Your time/money example was incorrect, and you haven't been able to justify it.  Please accept that I did, in fact, earn a degree in a technical field in which this stuff was a prerequisite.

Further, why would you ask me what I am paid for?  Clearly my comments here are in part motivated by self interest, admittedly, so you should have already concluded that entering into a &quot;getting paid&quot;-related &quot;mine is bigger than yours&quot; situation with me would likely not be a smart move on your part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>NOOQ: you accused me of missing a word which, in fact, I didn&#8217;t miss.  That is a false claim, or at minimum a false suggestion.</p>
	<p>Phoenician: whether or not you are paid to write precisely, you clearly are not paid for anything involving mathematics.  Your time/money example was incorrect, and you haven&#8217;t been able to justify it.  Please accept that I did, in fact, earn a degree in a technical field in which this stuff was a prerequisite.</p>
	<p>Further, why would you ask me what I am paid for?  Clearly my comments here are in part motivated by self interest, admittedly, so you should have already concluded that entering into a &#8220;getting paid&#8221;-related &#8220;mine is bigger than yours&#8221; situation with me would likely not be a smart move on your part.
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		<title>by: inge</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/01/what-middle-class/#comment-471187</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 07:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>NoOC: &lt;i&gt;Our woulrd is bass-ackwards and many people (including several on this thread) are confused by it. Amazing luxuries are cheap, while necessities are overwhelmingly expensive.&lt;/i&gt;

This seems to have been around since (at least) the beginning of the age of mass production. And it wouldn't surprise me to find a Roman quote on the subject matter how supposedly poor folks can all be found at the circus these days munching salted otter noses or something. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>NoOC: <i>Our woulrd is bass-ackwards and many people (including several on this thread) are confused by it. Amazing luxuries are cheap, while necessities are overwhelmingly expensive.</i></p>
	<p>This seems to have been around since (at least) the beginning of the age of mass production. And it wouldn&#8217;t surprise me to find a Roman quote on the subject matter how supposedly poor folks can all be found at the circus these days munching salted otter noses or something.
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		<title>by: inge</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/12/01/what-middle-class/#comment-471185</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 07:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Should have been: If you &lt;i&gt;can not&lt;/i&gt; pay the rent,...

sorry. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Should have been: If you <i>can not</i> pay the rent,&#8230;</p>
	<p>sorry.
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