Something to think about, from the “let’s listen to men” features on anal sex, sent to me by reader Anne.

“Part of the fun is trying to convince her why she should at least try it. If she’s too willing, though, then she’s probably not the type of girl you want to meet your mom.”
- Jon, 42, Woodinville, Wash.

How can he be so sure his mom isn’t that type of girl?

Ten songs at random. Leave ‘em in comments. Click the links on mine to hear the songs.

  1. “Ooh Poo Pah Doo”—The Elegants
  2. “The Shape Is In A Trance”—Thurston Moore
  3. “Lizard Brain”—Darcy James Argue’s Secret Society
  4. “Rockin’ Bandit”—Ray Smith
  5. “Want”—Jawbreaker
  6. “Lord Don’t Move The Mountain”—Neko Case & Her Boyfriends
  7. “Love Is My Life”—The Golden Cups
  8. “Punk Rock Girl”—The Dead Milkmen
  9. “Funky Fever”—Jay Mitchell
  10. “Upgrade Your Chassis (It’s a Pythagorean Party)”—So So Modern

The favorites to play on Rock Band around this house:


(This one makes me giddy like “Killing In The Name” did on Guitar Hero II.)


(This one is just really satisfying to play for some reason.)


74 Responses to “Friday Random Ten “Indeed” Edition”  

  1. 10. Soul Sanctuary–Prince
    9. Lullaby–Dixie Chicks
    8. Put Your Hands Up–Terry Moran
    7. So Nice (Samba De Verao)–Astrud Gilberto
    6. Symph 2, Mvmt 3 (Mendelssohn)–Gewandhaus Orchestra, Masur
    5. All of My Heart–ABC
    4. Nowhere to Stand–k.d. lang
    3. Where is the Love–Black Eyed Peas and Justin Timberlake
    2. If Madonna Calls–Junior Vasquez
    1. An Anna I (Schumman)–Thomas Hampson, Geoffry Parsons

    And Harriet


  2. I have to admit, I finally played one of those Rock Band things over Thanksgiving, and found it hella-boring (even with Wave of Mutilation and Mississippi Queen in the rotation). I see that somebody we both respect kind of got the same feeling. However, I discovered I have a Houston-area cousin who works at a discount-granting video game store, so…. well, who am I kidding? My Xbox 360 is busted anyway. Back to the Sega Genesis.

    All-Stereolab Random 10 because that’s my playlist right now: (1) Iron Man (2) Crest (3) Pop Quiz (4) Allures (5) Emperor Tomato Ketchup (6) Puncture in the Radak Permutation (7) Bop Scotch (8) St. Elmo’s Fire [Snow] (9) Excursions into “Oh, A-Oh” (10) Jaunty Monty and the Bubbles of Silence.


  3. ron

    “Living In The Material World” - George Harrison
    “Back In The USSR” - The Beatles
    “I’m Naive” - The Swells
    “Wisky Tango” - Tanya Donelly
    “So What” - Miles Davis
    “Mea Culpa” - David Byrne & Brian Eno
    “Triangular Objects” - Tabla Beat Science
    “The Earth” - Lisa Germano
    “Dogs Were Barking” - Gogol Bordello
    “Sacramento & Polk” - Alejandro Escovedo


  4. Sarcastro

    You can see my junk through my jumpsuit edition.

    1. “Mercedes Benz” - Uncle Tupelo
    2. “Sophisticated Bitch” - Public Enemy
    3. “Shout At The Devil” - Motley Crüe
    4. “All Day And All Of The Night” - The Kinks
    5. “Crazy” - Patsy Cline
    6. “In ‘n’ Out Of Grace” - Mudhoney
    7. “San Francisco Fran” - Cab Calloway
    8. “Dixie-Doodle” - Link Wray & The Wraymen
    9. “I Only Want You” - Eagles Of Death Metal
    10. “Deutscher Girls” - Adam & The Ants

    bonus: “My Evil Plan To Save The World” - Five Iron Frenzy


  5. mothworm

    1.Ramones - Blitzkrieg Bop
    2. Areil Pink’s Haunted Graffit - Jules Lost His Jewels
    3. Flaming Lips - The Switch That Turns Off The Universe
    4. T. Rex - Cosmic Dancer
    5. Deerhoof - Believe E.S.P.
    6. Andrew Bird - Fake Palindromes
    7. Cats on Fire - Higher Grounds
    8. Add N to (X) - Revenge of the Black Regent
    9. The Loft - Up Hill and Down the Slope
    10. Munk & James Murphy - Kick out the Chairs (WhoMadeWho remix)


  6. We finally got the Playstation III. Now, all that there is missing is Rock Band. But, we won’t be able to try it out until December 25. :(

    Anyways, My Random Ten:

    01. The Necromancer [12:31] — Rush
    02. Whammer Jammer/Looking for a Love [live][07:40] — J. Geils Band
    03. Disappear [04:12] — INXS
    04. Devil With the Blue Dress On/Good Golly Miss Molly [03:02] — Mitch Ryder
    05. Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad? [03:49] — Prince
    06. A Woman in Love [04:24] — Tom Petty
    07. I’d Do Anything for Love [12:00] — Meat Loaf
    08. Old Medley [live] [19:30] — Genesis
    09. Iron Man [05:50] — Black Sabbath
    10. Hots on for Nowhere [04:43] — Led Zeppelin

    Bonus:

    11. Midnight Rider [02:55] — Allman Brothers Band
    12. The Voice [05:13] — Moody Blues
    13. After Midnight [02:52] — Eric Clapton
    14. I Know What I Like [03:52] — Huey Lewis & the News
    15. Don’t Stop [03:12] — Fleetwood Mac
    16. Feeling that Way/Anytime [06:56] — Journey
    17. Ramblin’ Gamblin’ Man/Heavy Music/Katmandu [17:38] — Bob Seger
    18. Suzie Q [08:47] — Creedence Clearwater Revival
    19. Rocks Off [04:33] — Rolling Stones


  7. mothworm

    “Part of the fun is trying to convince her why she should at least try it. If she’s too willing, though, then she’s probably not the type of girl you want to meet your mom.”

    Because, god forbid a woman enjoyed having sex. Those women are sluts.

    I will never understand this type of person, or the twisted idea that you wouldn’t want to be with a partner who wants to do the same things you do. Clearly this guy just gets off on coercion. It has nothing to with sex (anal or otherwise).



  8. Dr. Locrian

    1. Someday Soon — Wilco
    2. Path of Glory — The Plasmatics
    3. Satori Pt. I — Flower Travellin’ Band
    4. She’s Lost Control — Joy Division
    5. Haunted When the Minutes Drag — Love & Rockets
    6. Child of Darkness II — Bedemon
    7. Centralia — Jucifer
    8. Balalaika Gap — Camper Van Beethoven
    9. Caucasian Walk — Virgin Prunes


  9. How can he be so sure his mom isn’t that type of girl?

    Because even if mom is that type of girl, she wants better for her son. She’s internalize the slut shaming and doesn’t want her future daughter-in-law to be a nasty ho too.

    But there’s more to it than just that. Why the hell is anyone still interested in finding a partner mom and dad approve of rather than a partner they love? I thought we didn’t do arranged marriages in this country anymore.

    The quote isn’t just anti-women and anti-consentual-sex, it’s also anti-love.


  10. Scott from Baltimore

    Right now and most of the time, that’s my favorite Who song. Something to aspire to.

    There was a Van Hagar live version where Eddie Van Halen did the keyboard part on guitar.



  11. 1. “You Spin Me Round” - Dope
    2. “Word Up” - Korn
    3. “Happy Birthday” - The Birthday Massacre
    4. “Zerospace” - Kidneythieves
    5. “Christiansands” - Tricky
    6. “The Outsider” - A Perfect Circle
    7. “Legion” - Vnv Nation
    8. “Technologic” - Daft Punk
    9. “My Violent Heart” - Nine Inch Nails
    10.”Gold Dust Woman” - Sheryl Crow

    My sons haven’t started dating yet, but I am completely positive that once they do, I will not even once for even a tiny portion of a second, ever wonder if (a) they are having anal sex with the girl they are introducing me to or (b) how enthusiastic she was to try it when they first suggested it to her. Just, I’m really Completely 100% Sure about this.


  12. rowmyboat

    “So It Goes”-Chris Pureka
    “As Cool as I Am”-Dar Williams
    “Girl from the North Country”-Bob Dylan
    “The Wild Goose”-Kate Rusby
    “Fall Stories”-Girlyman
    “Coming into Los Angeles”-Arlo Guthrie
    “Sally Ann”-Natalie Merchant
    “Alone on the Homestead”-The Mammals
    “In or Out (Live)”-Ani DiFranco
    “The Crane Wife 3″-The Decemberists


  13. 1. Fingerbib - Aphex Twin
    2. Herido De Sombras - Ibrahim Ferrer
    3. Give Peace a Chance - John Lennon
    4. It Takes Two - Rob Base and DJ EZ Rock
    5. Happy House - Shuggie Otis
    6. Failures - Joy Division
    7. Frosti - Bjork
    8. Roi - The Breeders
    9. Noisy Summer - The Raveonettes
    10. Secrets - Mission of Burma

    And the bonus: Nocturne for Piano no. 11 - Chopin


  14. I wonder what this guy would think of a woman who’s not only very willing to receive anal, but also has an 8-inch strap-on waiting for you in her closet that she’s just dying to use on him.


  15. haydn60

    A Cowboy For Jesus - Aunt Bertha Presents Singtime with Tiny Tot Calvin
    Rowche rumble - The Fall
    Pompilio Papa - Thurl Ravenscroft
    With Me Tonight [ascrodin edit] - The Beach Boys
    HAYDN: Symphony Nº 39 in g, (i, Allegro assai) - The Esterhazy Orchestra/David Blum
    Metropolis Suite [fragment] - Brian Bennett
    SMiLE - Jerod Freitag
    Supercalafajalistickespeealadojus (The Super Song) - Alan Holmes & his New Tones
    SHOSTAKOVICH: Piano Trio Nº 2, Op. 67 (iv) - The Eroica Trio
    Auto-Lite: Sta-Ful [instrumental] - Raymond Scott


  16. Richard

    1. Hasten Down The Wind - Warren Zevon
    2. Little Bird - Jerry Jeff Walker and the Lost Gonzo Band
    3. It Takes A Lot To Laugh, It Takes A Train To Cry - Bob Dylan
    4. On The Road Again - Willie Nelson & Johnny Cash
    5. Now She’s Gone - The Marshall Tucker Band
    6. Crazy - Atlanta Rhythm Section
    7. Coming Home To You Baby - Sonny Boy Wiliamson
    8. Electric Church Red House - Jimi Hendrix
    9. Never Kill Another Man - Steve Miller Band
    10. Girl With No Eyes - It’s A Beautiful Day
    Bonus: Trenchtown Rock (Live) - Bob Marley


  17. Magis

    *hangdog expression*
    Where katz?

    Gimme Some Lovin’: Spencer Davis Group
    Neon Rose: Mel Tillis
    Summer Wine: Nancy Sinatra & Lee Hazlewood
    Green Eyed Lady: Jerry Corbetta
    My Head Hurts, My Feet Stink and I Don’t Love Jesus: Jimmy Buffett
    Hot Rod Lincoln: Asleep at the Wheel
    Beethoven Symphony No. 8 in F Major, III. Royal Philharmonic Orchestra
    Make the World Go Away: Ray Price
    Take Me Home, Country Roads: John Denver
    Dreaming of You: Selena


  18. “Right now and most of the time, that’s my favorite Who song. Something to aspire to.”

    Definite favorite of mine, always kept on my MP3 player (only 2GB so sometimes old stuff gets displaced by new).

    It’s really impressive how many classic Vietnam-era songs about the inhumanity, cruelty, and evil of war and government oppression are still valid under our Reichwing overlords. A few other favorites of mine:

    The Who - “Baba O’Reilly”

    Buffalo Springfield - “For What It’s Worth”

    Creedence Clearwater Revival - “Run Through The Jungle”
    “Fortunate Son”
    “Who’ll Stop The Rain”

    Black Sabbath - “War Pigs”

    More recently (post-Vietnam):

    Dead Kennedy’s - “California Über Alles” (despite dated references to Jerry Brown…)
    “Holiday In Cambodia”
    “Kill The Poor”
    “Chemical Warfare”

    Megadeth - too numerous to name

    Rush - many songs with dystopian themes that have thoughtful lyrics…


  19. Magis

    10. Girl With No Eyes - It’s A Beautiful Day

    Richard:

    Obviously you a person of rare and exquisite taste and possible a chequered background


  20. Rob, (verb)er of (noun)s

    Thought it was time to get myself a title, but was too lazy to come up with specifics, thus the result.

    Here’s my list:

    Runnin - Tupac Shakur f. Notorious B.I.G.
    Pretend We’re Dead - L7
    She’s So Cold - Rolling Stones
    Say Yeah - Motley Crue
    Gone Away - Offspring
    Alive - Edwin & the Pressure
    Get On Top - Red Hot Chili Peppers
    Oh L’Amour - Erasure
    It’s Tricky - Run DMC
    Trampled Under Foot - Led Zeppelin


  21. holly. r.

    ew, “Jon” is gross, and I have way too much tx plans to write, and grants, and just fucking finals spin:

    1.The Lucksmiths- “Camera-Shy”
    2. Minor Threat- “Minor Threat”
    3. Rival Schools- “High Acetate”
    4. +/- - “Yo Yo Yo (Please Don’t Fall in Love)”
    5. Julie Ruin- “On Language”
    6. Versus (aw, yeah…)- “Santa Maria”
    7. Pet Shop Boys- “Opportunities”
    8. Mason Proper- “I Spy”
    9. Blonde Redhead- “Eqvvs”
    10. Minus Story- “The Way Beyond”
    Bonus: Architecture in Helsinki- “In Case We Die”


  22. holly. r.

    huh. I already wanted to marry Carrie Brownstein…
    and, it doesn’t matter if my boyfriend sees this- he’ll just laugh- at me. “Oh, yeah…just because that one time in Lawrence back in the nineties, she locked eyes with you… ha, whatever- no chance”.

    he probably wants a life-commitment from her, as well, for all I know…


  23. Sheesh

    I’m tempted to give this a shot, but as usual I’m listening to game soundtracks and don’t want to deal with the ridicule on a Friday. So…


  24. Rob, (verb)er of (noun)s

    Thought it was time to get myslf a title, but why tax myself trying to come up with specifics? This is the result.

    And now, the list…

    Runnin - Tupac Shakur f. Notorious B.I.G.
    Pretend We’re Dead - L7
    She’s So Cold - Rolling Stones
    Say Yeah - Motley Crue
    Gone Away - Offspring
    Alive - Edwin & the Pressure
    Get On Top - Red Hot Chili Peppers
    Oh L’Amour - Erasure
    It’s Tricky - Run DMC
    Trampled Under Foot - Led Zeppelin


  25. bekitty

    The “oh-so-Happy” edition…

    Scott Matthew - Upside Down
    Jane Siberry - The Walking (and constantly)
    They Might Be Giants - We Want A Rock
    Happy Rhodes - Murder
    Ani Difranco - Coming Down
    Happy Rhodes - Just Like Tivoli
    Spice Girls - Spice Up Your Life
    Crowded House - Better Be Home Soon
    Happy Rhodes - When the Rain Came Down
    Afro Celt Sound System - Inion (Daughter)

    And the special bonus track: Lore Sjoberg - Nine Inch Noels, NIN lyrics set to Christmas music.


  26. Rob, (verb)er of (noun)s

    Nine Inch Noels, NIN lyrics set to Christmas music.

    I’m honestly afraid to click…


  27. Eric, rejector of memes

    “Clearly this guy just gets off on coercion.”

    So, persuasion is coercion.

    Is up down? White black? What was the ceremony like when you burned your dictionary?


  28. V. Bacfarc

    The “I-Don’t-Wanna-Make-Final-Exams” Edition

    1. “Chickamauga” — Uncle Tupelo
    2. “Not Dark Yet” — Bob Dylan
    3. “Summertime” — John Coltrane Quartet
    4. “On a Foggy Night” — Tom Waits
    5. “Around the Sun” — REM
    6. “Cuyahoga” — REM
    7. “Dust 2…” — Elvis Costello
    8. “The Playboy Mansion” — U2
    9. “The Engine Driver” — The Decemberists
    10. “Jesus, Etc.” — Wilco

    Bonus Track: “The Earle of Oxford’s Marche” — William Byrd (performed by the Philip Jones Brass Ensemble)
    I’m listening to this one on repeat, since my brass ensemble is performing it soon….


  29. badpoetry

    OK, the Nine Inch Noels is hilarious and disturbing…. always a good combination. Especially “Closer” lyrics set to “Jingle Bells”.

    And it finally happened- Amanda has song on her random 10 that I have in my collection (”Punk Rock Girl”). Hooray.

    10. “Never Any Good” Leonard Cohen
    09. “Small Black Box” Michael Penn
    08. “Falls To Climb” REM
    07. “Hold Her Down” Toad The Wet Sprocket
    06. “To Make You Feel My Love” Billy Joel
    05. “New Boy” The Connells
    04. “The Painted Desert” 10,000 Maniacs
    03. “Problems” The Sex Pistols
    02. “Yes I Won’t” Scott Miller and the Commonwealth
    01. “What It’s Like” Everlast


  30. Mighty & Nor: Yeah, I saw that. I can’t blame her for finding it boring, since she’s in, you know, an actual famous rock band. She has no cause to fantasize about what she can get by picking up the phone and booking a show.


  31. Eric, he made his feelings clear—anal is only fun if the woman under you is miserable. It might not be legal coercion, but if someone is performing a sexual act they hate, a level of coercion is in play. He might have threatened her to get her technical consent, or mocked her, but he made it clear—the woman who wants it ruins the fun for him, which is the getting her to do it against her will. Also, women who want sex are not fit for polite company. Interestingly, he claims that he wants anal sex, but is not afraid to present himself to his mother, which is a standard issue double standard. Also, he’s made it clear that nothing a woman can do will be right by him. Don’t have it? He’ll badger and mock you until you give in. Love it? You ruin it for him. Give in to his demands reluctantly? Well, he might feel you’re suitable for mama, but you’ve just sacrificed your dignity, which is what I suspect is the point.


  32. Dr. Hermione Granger, PhD

    i miss the cat picture! i also have a cat question: anyone have a kitten who’s fascinated by water, to that point that she plays with her water dish and eventually breaks it? That’s what mine did this morning. *sigh* i don’t get it.

    Anyway, “Celebrity Skin” is Awesomeness on Rock Band.

    1. “Whirlwind” -Dispacth
    2. “Motto”- Less Than Jake
    3. “Stand By Me”- Benny King (?)
    4. “Cupid”- Jack Johnson
    5. “i Won’t Back Down”- Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers
    6. “These Days”- Gregg Allman
    7. “Shy”- Ani DiFranco
    8. “i Believe in a Thing Called Love”- The Darkness
    9. “Suerte”-Shakira
    10. “Angry Anymore”- Ani DiFranco

    Bonus Fun:”Regret”- The Get-up Kids


  33. Dr. Hermione Granger, PhD

    Rowmyboat- LOVE the live version of “In or Out!”


  34. rowmyboat

    Hermoine — me too, it’s got way more teeth than the studio version.


  35. Re the top patagraph Amanda, as a man who has been round the block more times than the paperboy’s bike, I look at it this way.

    If I wanted my girlfriends to act like a gay man I would just admit I was homosexual.


  36. Letty

    Very random (including the folk collection):

    1. Charlie - Split Enz
    2. Tried To Be - Room 11
    3. Hand in My Pocket - Alanis Morissette
    4. Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy - Andrews Sisters
    5. Until I’m Fine - K’s Choice
    6. Mood Swinging Man - Finn Brothers
    7.Laoi Fhearchair Eoghainn - Karen Matheson
    8. Hold me, thrill me, kiss me, kill me - U2
    9. Sleep in Late - Molly Johnson
    10. Bursting Through - Bic Runga


  37. To be fair, I spent so much time looking at my corner of the screen that I didn’t get much of an appreciation for the interaction with whatever grungy audiences they conjured up. Are there any stage divers or people doing the Skinhead Stomp?


  38. Eh, Ian, anal sex is a lot of fun if you’re doing it for the right reasons. For people who don’t hate women, anal play is popular because—hold onto your hat—women like it. Lots of nerves back there, etc.


  39. I wonder, Ian, do you expect your partner to perform oral sex? There was a time when that was considered an act only gay male prostitutes would perform. Enjoying acting gay?


  40. annejumps

    I should add that this was in the “Do’s and Don’ts of Sex”http://www.glamour.com/sexmen/articles/2007/11/dosdontsofsex”>from the November issue of Glamour (that’s the online outtakes version). No commentary was provided to accompany the quote.


  41. annejumps

    …Dammit. The link.


  42. annejumps

    Eric, you should really take a look at this post for the context here.


  43. Karenia Brevis

    1) Arcade Fire, “Neighborhood #1 (Tunnels)”
    2) 10,000 Maniacs, “Among the Americans”
    3) The Mountain Goats, “Going to Hungary”
    4) Mirah, “Credo Cigalia”
    5) Beatles, “That’ll Be the Day”
    6) Avey Tare, “Judy Biworker”
    7) Home, “Industry 2000″
    8) Courtney Love, “Disappearing Lessons”
    9) Fleetwood Mac, “Save Me a Place”
    10) Sleater-Kinney, “Sold Out”


  44. mothworm

    Ian, please disabuse yourself of the notion that anal play is strictly a “gay” activity. It’s a universal bit of anatomy. Some people find it pleasurable, while others don’t, and that division doesn’t break down along gay/straight lines. There are plenty of gay people who don’t have anal sex, and plenty of straight people who do. There are plenty of both varieties who enjoy playful stimulation without penetrative sex. It has nothing to do with sexual orientation.


  45. Matt, Viceroy of Spareribs and Pez

    1. “Grieg: Lyric Pieces, Op. 68 – At Your Feet” – Emil Gilels
    2. “Solitaire Gets Her Cards” – George Martin
    3. “Main Title & First Victim” – John Williams
    4. “Enter Darth Maul” – John Williams; LSO
    5. “Piano Concerto #21 in C, K 467 – 3. Allegro Vivace Assai” – Mozart
    6. “The garage” – John Ottman
    7. “Rodgers: Victory at Sea – Mare Nostrum” – Kunzel; CPO
    8. “Tears” – Joe Craven
    9. “Grieg: Peer Gynt, Op. 23 – Halling” – Barbara Bonney, etc.
    10. “Oh! nicht einmal die Gnade” – Berg/Dohnanyi


  46. Richard

    Dr. Hermione Granger, PhD,
    Don’t know the age of your cat or how long you’ve had it but when I first got my current companion, he would pat the water in the bowl to “break it up.” I figured it was something he had done as a stray to puddles before drinking out of them.

    Magis,
    I do have a somewhat chequered background (but never got caught). One of the best concerts I ever attended was It’s A Beautiful Day opening for Free when I was in college. But I’ve been listening to their music since they first came out


  47. Lawyerbob

    Taking no position on anal sex random ten:

    1. Der Vogelfanger bin ich ja, The Magic Flute–Mozart, conducted by Herbert von Karajan
    2. Don’t Forget to Mess Around–Louis Armstrong and His Hot Fives
    3. Take Me Right Back to the Track, Jack–Louis Jordan (I think is also known as “Choo Choo, Ch-Boogie”)
    4. Rosie–Joan Armatrading
    5. Time Has Told Me–Nick Drake
    6. Little Fishes–Brian Eno
    7. My Melancholy Baby–Ella Fitzgerald
    8. Reels–MacIsaac & MacIsaac
    9. That’s All Right–Elvis
    10. What Becomes of the Broken-Hearted–Jimmy Ruffin

    “Little Fishes” is from my favorite album ever–Another Green World. I loved it 32 years ago when I bought it, and I still love it.

    And the Reels are by the greatest Cape Breton fiddler ever (with all due respect to the McMaster family)–Ashley MacIsaac, with his brother Dave on guitar.


  48. mothworm

    “Clearly this guy just gets off on coercion.”

    So, persuasion is coercion.

    Is up down? White black? What was the ceremony like when you burned your dictionary?

    Oh please. Amanda already smacked you down quite nicely, but I can’t let this pass without comment. It’s obvious from the guy’s statement that a woman actually being interested in having (anal) sex with him ruins the experience for him (or at least ruins the woman in his eyes). He’s not interested in anal sex, he’s interested in dominating a woman and getting her to do things she isn’t interested in doing. That has nothing to do with persuasion.

    There are a number of reasons I would want to have anal (or any type of) sex with my girlfriend, chief among them because it would be exciting, erotic and pleasurable for her. There’s nothing wrong with asking your partner to try something new, but, if you actually like your partner, you’re asking because you want to learn a new way of pleasuring them. The only outcome you could possibly be hoping for would be an enthusiastic response from your paramour. If you’re hoping for begrudging acquiescence with an admission that your partner isn’t really interested/doesn’t find said act pleasurable, then you weren’t realy interested in that act in the first place. You were interested in coercing/hurting someone to prove your dominance.


  49. i miss the cat picture! i also have a cat question: anyone have a kitten who’s fascinated by water, to that point that she plays with her water dish and eventually breaks it? That’s what mine did this morning. *sigh* i don’t get it.

    Our cat, Moo, seems sort of afraid of the water dish. I’ve never seen her pat at it, but she usually snaeks up on it and stares into it for a long time before drinking from it. I don’t know if she sees her reflection, or what. I’ve also turned around in the shower a number of times to see her peeking around the curtain with a look of utter confusion on her face.


  50. wedeman

    Man, seeing that Courtney Love/Hole video again makes me realize: is there anyone out there at all who DOESN”T think this song was written by Kurt? Sheesh, it’s practically a Nirvana cover…

    1) Crash Landing - The Catheads
    2) Salome Dances for Peace - Kronos Quartet
    3) Opened - The Breeders
    4) Powderfinger - Neil Young
    5) Counting Out Time - Genesis
    6) Feel Alright - The Damned
    7) Marker In the Sand - Pearl Jam
    8) Astronaut - Luna
    9) Save Me (Part 1) - Julie Driscoll, Brian Auger & The Trinity
    10) All the World Loves Lovers - Prefab Sprout
    Kick-Ass Grrrl Trio Rock Bonus:
    Combat Rock - Sleater-Kinney


  51. Dr. Caligari

    “Part of the fun is trying to convince her why she should at least try it. If she’s too willing, though, then she’s probably not the type of girl you want to meet your mom.”
    - Jon, 42, Woodinville, Wash.

    What an ASSHOLE!!! (Pun intended.)


  52. Dr. Hermione Granger, PhD

    Richard,
    My cat (Luna) is 6 mths. I have seen her pat the water, but usually she pushes the dish across the kitchen floor inches at a time, spilling the contents and not drinking any water. Sometimes i think it’s just a “water phase” since she also drinks from the shower floor, plays with dishes in the sink, and naps in the sink when it’s empty.
    i’m experimenting with tupperware water dishes now to see if she just had a thing for the sound of the ceramic bowl. I told her she’ll get a real dish when she’s old enough and responsible enough not to play with it. And then Mr. Granger laughed at my trying to reason with a cat.


  53. other orange

    “Part of the fun is trying to convince her why she should at least try it. If she’s too willing, though, then she’s probably not the type of girl you want to meet your mom.”

    See, I find this nuts. Aside from the disgustingly misogynist tone about coercing your partner into the deed; I simply don’t understand the sentiment that a person who is enthusiastic about participating in sex isn’t a good choice of partner, and therefore someone to meet your parents.

    Like, is this guy afraid that a girl like that and his mom would hook up, or what ?

    What relevance does a happy sexual relationship with one’s partner have to do with them being suitable for meeting your folks ? I personally wouldn’t have brought a woman-belittling asshole home to my folks- they’d have hit the roof and asked me what I was doing with my life. As long as your parents aren’t going to check her hymen (in which case, you all have bigger problems), you’d think an ideal partner would be somebody who actually wants to have sex with you.

    Nutty.


  54. Foxfire

    “I’ve also turned around in the shower a number of times to see her peeking around the curtain with a look of utter confusion on her face.”

    Mothworm, my dog used to drink from the shower when I was in there. I would be lathering, and the next thing I know this big, black snout would bump up against my calf. Kinda disconcerting. Crazy mutt, I miss her.

    My Random 10:
    1. Tiger Lillies –Crack of Doom
    2. Gogol Bordello-Avenue B
    3. Dropkick Murphys-Shipping Up to Boston
    4. Sepultura - Refuse/Resist
    5. Fugazi-Suggestion
    6. System of a Down-Hypnotize
    7. Bauhuas- The Spy in the Cab
    8. Brand New-I Will Play My Game Beneath the Spin Light
    9. NIN-Lost Souls
    10. Radiohead-Videotape


  55. Foxfire

    “I’ve also turned around in the shower a number of times to see her peeking around the curtain with a look of utter confusion on her face.”

    Mothworm, my dog used to drink from the shower when I was in there. I would be lathering, and the next thing I know this big, black snout would bump up against my calf. Kinda disconcerting. Crazy mutt, I miss her.

    My Random 10- the Labile Emotions addition:
    1. Tiger Lillies –Crack of Doom
    2. Gogol Bordello-Avenue B
    3. Dropkick Murphys-Shipping Up to Boston
    4. Sepultura - Refuse/Resist
    5. Fugazi-Suggestion
    6. System of a Down-Hypnotize
    7. Bauhuas- The Spy in the Cab
    8. Brand New-I Will Play My Game Beneath the Spin Light
    9. NIN-Lost Souls
    10. Radiohead-Videotape


  56. The Crapture

    Ironically, any guy who would try to use relative willingness for anal sex as a litmus test like that could easily qualify as being proof of the possibility of rectal gestation


  57. Late to the party as always, but I still want to throw in.

    Amanda Marcotte: Interestingly, he claims that he wants anal sex, but is not afraid to present himself to his mother, which is a standard issue double standard. Also, he’s made it clear that nothing a woman can do will be right by him. Don’t have it? He’ll badger and mock you until you give in. Love it? You ruin it for him. Give in to his demands reluctantly? Well, he might feel you’re suitable for mama, but you’ve just sacrificed your dignity, which is what I suspect is the point.

    Say, does this have to do with that whole tradition of projecting one’s lusts onto the other, of wanting the woman to be a slut so all the dirty, dirty sex will be her fault?

    It kind of makes sense–if the woman doesn’t want the anal sex, then the man’s lusts go unsatisfied. If the woman does want the anal sex, then the man’s lusts are revealed to himself, and he has to be disgusted by them.

    One might suggest that the man in question should accept his own sexual desires rather than loathing them… but that’s just crazy talk, right?


  58. Well, here are 10:

    The Hour Grows Late by Yo La Tengo
    Just One Word by Jonatha Brooke
    Are You Experienced? by The Jimi Hendrix Experience
    Nietzsche’s Eyes by Paula Cole
    You Were Meant For Me by Jewel
    Panic by The Smiths
    Mama´s Boy by The Ramones
    Things Have Changed by Bob Dylan
    Pure by The Lightning Seeds
    Space Monkey by The Patti Smith Group
    Fishing In The Morning by Dar Williams
    I’m Sensitive by Jewel

    it seems to be a women of Boston thing–since I sorta saw Jewel in Cambridge before she made it, I’m going to pretend she is also.


  59. kristin

    The Boxer - Simon and Garfunkel
    Tortured, Tangled Hearts - Dixie Chicks
    Broken Arrow - Jose Gonzales
    Gone - Switchfoot
    Lilac Wine - Jeff Buckley
    It Had Better Be Tonight - Henry Mancini Orchestra
    No Fear of Falling - I Am Kloot
    Donde Esta Santa Claus - Guster
    We’re Okay - RENT sdtrk.
    Sinigallia Bellamore - Riccardo


  60. i miss the cat picture!

    Well, Harriet did make an appearance above….


  61. Oh, right. My random ten.

    Eric Bogle - And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda
    Stan Rogers - The Flowers of Bermuda
    Nathan Rogers - Three Fishers
    Tyler Bates - Fever Dream
    Kamelot - Forever
    Epica - Haunted
    Nightmare - The World
    Jeremiah Sypult - E1M8
    Regina Spektor - Lady
    Dragonforce - Through the Fire and Flames
    Ayumi Hamasaki - Inspire

    Man, does that ever not hang together.


  62. “Dragonforce - Through the Fire and Flames”

    A guy at work introduced me to Dragonforce. He did this in a mocking way because the stuff is so ’80’s hair metal. (He also introduced me to Lordi at the same time…)

    Now I don’t know if I should embrace him as a friend with a good sense of humor, or reject him as a former friend who didn’t respect the limits of human endurance…


  63. Pan American

    They did that show at Live 8 without their regular rhythm section and it sounds a bit off. Compare it to this years show at Glastonbury. With Pino Palladino and Zak Starkey they’re back to being one of the best live shows anywhere. Just insanely tight and powerful performances. This version of Who Are You puts the burned out Moon studio version to shame.


  64. Eh, I like Teenage Wasteland a lot better.

    I’ve heard that the drum heads on the Rockband drums aren’t as durable as the company expected and they’re already having to do replacements. Also some people are having issues with the Stratocaster controller, and the company is working furiously on getting the 360 to recognize all the Guitar Hero III controllers. No word yet for the PS3 people.


  65. I don’t use the Stratocaster that came with the game, but the Gibsons from III, and they work just great. Plus, with two wireless guitars, we don’t need the funky plug-in to play all 4 instruments at once.


  66. “Eh, I like Teenage Wasteland a lot better.”

    …not to be an old fart, but the actual name of the song is Baba O’Riley


  67. MikeEss: A guy at work introduced me to Dragonforce. He did this in a mocking way because the stuff is so ’80’s hair metal. (He also introduced me to Lordi at the same time…)

    Now I don’t know if I should embrace him as a friend with a good sense of humor, or reject him as a former friend who didn’t respect the limits of human endurance…

    Hmm. I can’t tell if that means that you do or don’t like Dragonforce. I am, however, fully aware of how ridiculous they are. This does not stop them from being awesome.


  68. “I can’t tell if that means that you do or don’t like Dragonforce.”

    I’m not sure myself… ;)


  69. Rob, (verb)er of (noun)s

    grendelkhan
    November 30, 2007 at 3:18 pm

    One might suggest that the man in question should accept his own sexual desires rather than loathing them… but that’s just crazy talk, right?

    Easier said than done, grendelkhan.

    If one feels that society will be disgusted by what they do or want to do, if they grow up hearing people express disgust or contempt for people who engage in certain acts, it seems inevitable that they will loathe themselves if it turns out that they have a desire to engage in said acts. I speak from experience.

    Also, sorry for the double post earlier. “Say Yeah” is one of the best Motley songs that you’ve likely never heard and can be found on the collections “Supersonic and Demonic Relics” and “Music to Crash Your Car to: Vol. 2″. (I find it kind of surprising that they’d use that album title, given that Vince Neil was in a car crash that took the life of his friend, but whatever.) Or you can download it, like I did. :)


  70. witless chum

    “Man, seeing that Courtney Love/Hole video again makes me realize: is there anyone out there at all who DOESN”T think this song was written by Kurt? Sheesh, it’s practically a Nirvana cover…”

    Errr. The supposed Svengali at this point was Billy Corgan (Kurt being unavailable) and this sounds a lot more like Pumpkins than Nirvana to me. I can’t think of a Nirvana song that had guitar as precise-sounding as this one.

    Whichever, I kinda like the song. For the mid-to-late 90s it stacks up okay against the Seven Mary Threes,* Tonics and Veruca Salts of the world.

    *Except their album that had no hits that I actually liked.


  71. How can he be so sure his mom isn’t that type of girl?

    Because if his mom enjoyed sex, then he may not be the son of God he always thought he was. (Seriously, if one thinks of one’s parents as asexual, one can conclude that one’s conception was a sacrifice made by one’s parents out of love for their future child, and never merely an afterthought.)

    So, persuasion is coercion.

    I’m not sure that, in this context, the distinction has much of a difference; how can one fetishize “persuasion” and not coercion? Making it about “the chase,” about making the transition from unwilling to willing, means it’s not really about the partner. I suppose at its best, one can distinguish between attitudes of “she’s willing to do something she doesn’t enjoy for me; that must mean she really loves me!” and “I got one over on her.” But they’re both objectifying, narcissistic attitudes.
    Maybe some folks who claim to enjoy “persuasion” feel that what they enjoy is broadening other folks’ horizons, but I still find this a bit creepy if they can’t enjoy the act with someone whose horizon doesn’t need broadening. It’s a virgin fetish.


  72. canto_xii

    01. the national - fake empire
    02. neko case - maybe sparrow
    03. radiohead - fog (live)
    04. scarling - hello london
    05. coconut records - west coast
    06. sunday munich - starving
    07. saltillo - a necessary end
    08. zoe keating - walking man
    09. sigur ros - hoppipolla
    10. animal collective - who could win a rabbit?


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