Shakes is running a long series on the various items available for purchase by men who hate women and think that’s just so funny. It’s interesting, though I haven’t linked it before because I didn’t have much to say about it. But today’s series entry just can’t pass without comment.
In case the toy wasn’t hostile-seeming enough at first glance, the manufacturers give you an option to engage in a little playful rape, which is the toy victim’s fault, of course.
ou’ll note from the packaging that Lusty Linda can utter “8 lusty sayings,” which fall into one of two categories—”good mood” or “bad mood,” controlled by the click of a switch. Says one site (screen cap) that sells Lusty Linda, “too bad all women did not have such a switch.” Ho ho ho!
In her “good mood,” Lusty Linda says things like “Oh so good, do that again” and “Yes!” In her “bad mood,” Lusty Linda says things like “Ow!” and “Help! Help!” (Though she never loses her grin!) Talk about art imitating life. I don’t know about the rest of you gals, but nothing puts me in a “bad mood” like being raped! Trust Lusty Linda to speak the truth.
What I find fascinating about this stuff is that the male audience for these toys are probably the same kinds of guys who dwell bitterly over the way Andrea Dworkin pointed out that our society constructs heterosexual intercourse as rape. They pretend that they dwell over this because it shows how supposedly crazy she was, but in actuality, I think they’re bitter because she had their number. Dworkin didn’t believe that all sex was rape by definition, but men who think this shit is funny certainly do. If you think that screaming for help only differs from ordinary sex because your selected fuckhole is just being whiny tonight, I’m pretty convinced you have no fucking clue what sex with a woman who genuinely is into it would even be like.
And this has shit all to do with any anti-humor or even anti-dirty humor bent to my personality. I’m eagerly attending the Air Sex contest tonight, with high hopes they’ll let us take pictures. But jokes about the absurdity of sex and non-jokes about how your stupid penis is a stupid weapon to be used against the hated half of the human race are utterly different things. For one thing, only the former has a good deal of potential to be funny. The latter just tends to speak of the inadequacies of the men attracted to such tropes.
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What I find fascinating about this stuff is that the male audience for these toys … pretend that they dwell over this because it shows how supposedly crazy (Dworkin) was, but in actuality, I think they’re bitter because she had their number. Dworkin didn’t believe that all sex was rape by definition, but men who think this shit is funny certainly do.
Absolutely, 100%, spot-on, BINGO.
(And I don’t mean “MRA Bingo”)
Brilliant post. I sprained my neck from nodding in agreement.
A little deconstruction via Jean Kilbourne, but it/she doesn’t even have eyes! (maybe those are supposed to be sexy librarian glasses of something? That’s the only thing I can come up with.)
I probably would have thought this was funny when I was 9 years old. I can’t imagine the kind of losers who buy this as adults.
I’d like to think that the target for this is stupid teenage boys, but I suspect it is mostly mean, middle-aged men. They should have made it into a pencil sharpener to feed their paranoid fantasies.
Air sex! What a hoot. I love it. I note in the rules that you have two minutes to perform. Points off if you can’t last that long? My friend wants to know.
You don’t even have to be a feminist to see just how much in bad taste this item is.
Everyone I showed this to in law class were horrified by it, and when i explained the “rape toggle” people actually flinched away and looked sick. At least normal people (as much as my class can be called normal) see this for the creepy, hateful thing it is.
I would like to know who buys these, certainly.
That has to be the most god-awful, gaudy thing I’ve ever seen. I’m surprised the market for this stuff is economically viable enough to make it profitable.
I guess there are more 30-year old virgins than I realized.
This reminds me of that adorable knife holder that came out a few years back. You know, the one where you can store your knives by pretending to plunge them into a man’s body! Fun! If men who find this funny are all rapists, then what would you say of women who find this funny?
http://www.shopbobandjoyce.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=342
There’s no accounting for taste, I guess.
except oswald, that the red body is not particularly masculine and is, I suspect, trying for the generic quality of a crossing sign figure. There’s a real lack of maleness and definitely no personality involved.
The pencil holder, on the other hand, specifically targets what’s female* and the fact that there are these friggin’ sound effects underlines the twisted misogyny of the toy.
*or the general vicinity
I must have missed the part where the knife holder is marketed as male, and encourages female buyers to shove a knife into the male figure’s genital area while turning on a switch that makes it say “Oh no!”
But on Planet Antifeminist, no stretch is too tenuous to say “There are women who hate men too so STFU FEMINIST BITCHES!” Thanks for the reminder, oswald.
No, Oswald is totally right. The existence of the two products means that any discussion of gender in society is pointless.
I googled this, and the description of her “bad mood” sayings is half right (or less than half). She does not say “Help! Help!” for example. I’d be curious where that gem was added to turn a stupid gift idea into a “rapist delight” blog post.
http://www.find-me-a-gift.co.uk/lusty-linda-pen-holder.html
This product needs to be a pencil sharpener to more thoroughly address some men’s anxiety.
Maybe Yuri K. has a point…
http://www.thedrunkengoat.com.au/?stg=393&view=393
Come on! You laughed and you know it!
NancyP: Sorted. http://feministing.com/archives/008139.html
um, no, seroj, i didn’t. i predict, further, that no one else will, either. partly because it’s vile, and partly because it’s just fucking stupid. as are all of these products.
Jeepers. Good to know that seroj apparently thinks having sex with someone who was saying “Ow!” and “Get out!” would not constitute rape. Also, that he cannot count to 10. “10 different things” are not listed in that description. I have no idea how he divined that “Help! Help!” was not one of them.
I think Oswald has a smidgen of a point, in that the knife holder is marketed as “The Ex,” which belies its abstract appearance. Knowing its marketing spiel, I have to say I’d be pretty creeped out by anyone, male or female, who owned it. However, if you compare the rate at which men rape women to the rate at which women stab men with knives, it should be really obvious why the pen holder product is more disturbing. There’s a rape culture; there isn’t a stabbing-male-exes-to-death culture.
Plus, of course, Shakespeare’s Sister has a series of these posts.
“8 lusty sayings,”
“Also, that he cannot count to 10. “10 different things”
Kali, I can count to 10. You just cant read. Go to the top and look again.
I was looking at the screencap on SS’s site, which says “10 Different Things.”
But I assume the packaging is more accurate than the site blurb. So, fine. I concede that you can count to 10.
So am I right in speculating that it’s absolutely legal to sell these abominations in all the same states where you can go to jail for selling a vibrator?
For those interested in the pencil sharpener idea, it’s been done (and was also posted on Shakesville).
http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2007/11/today-in-disembodied-things.html
I really just don’t get people. I mean, I can understand trying to make a profit, but to realize and/or create a market for products such as these. People are just icky.
I confess, I’d quite like an ‘Ex’ knife set - I liked the look of the thing, found the design funny, before I knew it was called ‘The Ex’ or that it had been made with any sexual/romantic connotation in mind. I thought it was as numbed of meaning as any other caricature of violent death. Our culture being full of such things, which are considered totally harmless compared to sexual images, be they pleasant or sickening sexual images. My exes, female and male, are safe from me.
My guy found the knifeholder fabulous. I am more ambivalent. I like the fun bloodthirstiness, but I prefer my imaginary violence extra-imaginary, not a particular sex and most especially not a particular person.
The pencilholder…I think is something a passive-aggressive hostile would give someone they hate. I canna imagine it even as an honest joke.
*shiver* I am actually a bit creeped out that seroj, while quick to correctly assert his proficiency in the field of kindergarten numeracy, has not denied the other thing I said in response his comment:
Jeepers. Good to know that seroj apparently thinks having sex with someone who was saying “Ow!” and “Get out!” would not constitute rape.
I really thought I might be going too far in saying that, even though his comment has the clear logical implication that the toy saying “Ow!” and “Get out!” is not a “rapist’s delight.” But I was hoping he’d just worded it badly or something, and he’d explain. And now I feel kind of physically ill.
I’m guessing the sort of man who is likely to even have heard of Andrea Dworkin and know something about her radical feminism likely isn’t the type to find this humor funny.
Cartoon violence is pretty common in our society, and an easy joke that doesn’t seem to mean very much just because it’s so fanciful and generalized. I mean, you can imagine Yosemite Sam having a knife rack shaped like Bugs Bunny and shouting “Varmit” at it.
There’s no Warner Brothers rape cartoon.
Funny how I can’t find any toys where a man is laying on the table sporting a huge cock/pen and every time you yank out the pen to write a quart of blood spews out of the socket and the man screams “I HAVE NOTHING TO LIVE FOR!!!!!!!”
Funny funny shit.
The warning on the box, “Choking Hazard: Small Parts,” suggests the target market for this product.
In more ways than one.
Perhaps I am overly optimistic about the human condition, but I think most of these are sold to the “embarrassing X-rated gag gift” market. And then they end up in the dumpster, or the back of a closet (next to the blow-up sheep).
I’ve never bought such a gift, but I can’t imagine most people doing who are doing so think too hard about it. Which is unfortunate for several reasons (the first of which is that it allows awful crap like this to stay on the market).
The really funny thing is that these men who despise and denigrate women also prefer to associate with guys whenever possible. I’ve always wondered whether it was a “wide-stance” thing, triggered by repressed homosexuality. (Notice how openly gay men don’t tend to act this way? Compare and contrast to, say, a closeted gay Republican’s voting record.)
Be careful about overgeneralizations. We’ve got plenty of misogynist gay men–particularly the hypermasculine, “straight-acting” types who don’t want “fish” in their bars.
Misogynist fags piss me off.
I actually read this thing as a sort of visual pun: The PEN IS in the holder.
Actually, any sort of zoomorphic fixture gives me the creeps. Sure, it’s just a figurine, but it does suggest that this animal exists only for one’s own purpose.
Come to think of it, though, a bottoms-up George Bush pen holder is something I’d consider buying as a Christmas present.
Actually there seem to be different versions. This one (with different packaging):
Awful plastic junk like this makes me imagine some poor underpaid Chinese factory worker who is probably right now thinking “I left my family in the village and moved to the city to make this crap?” I wonder what she thinks of Americans.
John T,
Just don’t give it to your child; who knows what chemical the plastic will morph into if they chew it?
Between the pencil sharpener yesterday, this today, 4 hours sleep, and a total inability to print my Eng Comp essay, my faith in humanity is worn to a nubbin.
NBarnes,
I don’t prescribe this to everyone, but maybe I should. Get high and give yourself a facial. You’re faith in humanity might not improve, but you’ll feel a lot better.
My partner’s 59 year old father.
I have to admit that I had rarely been confronted with these little patriarchal “jokes” before reading these blogs, yet it seems that, despite the relatively short time span, I’ve already become somewhat jaded. I mean, having seen this, and various other examples of har-har-dismembered-women humor, I’m not as outraged as I should be when I see that pen holder. It’s deadening — which is frightening, because if a more or less informed man can be so quickly dulled, then these fuckers’ cumulative effects are probably far more damaging to average folks.
No one’s commented on the title, but it seems worth noting that the penhole is located EXACTLY where I thought I would someday be aiming, when I was 11 years old. I think that’s known as a “revealing error” on the part of the product designer.
Disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.
Did you all read the rest of the blog?
They had pictures of urinals that looked like women. In one version it was a standing woman, and you’d pee into her butthole. In another version, it was just the legs, upside-down and straddled, and you pee into the vaginal area.
I actually own that red knife holder. My friends and family who have seen it thought it was funny and very typical of something I’d have, since I’m into Halloween- and voodoo-themed things.
Guess i won’t be meeting kali anytime soon, though.
MAJeff- Ever been in a gay bar invaded by a gawking bachelorette party or shower? I have and it sucks. A gay bar in Melbourne, Australia was granted an exception to civil rights laws to prevent just such a thing: http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=269523.
As far as that novelty item goes… I generally think the worst of humanity, but even i can’t imagine there’s enough creeps out there to make that profitable.
I did get a kick out of the knife holder though.
Sorry, but the real reason why stuff like that sells is because it’s real ugly. Nobody buys that crap for himself or herself. It’s something you buy for an office party to embarrass someone in front of everyone.
It’s pretty offensive, so I laughed.
There’s no Warner Brothers rape cartoon.
Ahem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEdBndu0YUM
I guess there are more 30-year old virgins than I realized.
AtomicFruitbat, 30-year-old virgins are not necessarily the kind of jerks who get off on this shite.
Heh. I am actually fine with the knife holder, because I tend to like morbid humour, except for it being called “The Ex.” That part creepifies it beyond redemption for me. Because once I knew it was called that, I would be imagining it as actual people. However, judging by everyone else’s reaction to it, I guess it falls into the surprisingly wide category of Things I Totally Overreact To Because My Imagination is Hyperactive.
How about this comment on the uk site linked to above that sells this monstrosity:
Lusty Linda rocks ive got her on my desk at work and everyone laughs when someone puts there pen in it. a must have for any office person! - tom, east midlands
Can you say hostile work environment?
Uncle Mike - I own that knifeholder too, although I became interested in it before it was even available for sale. From what I recall, it was designed by an Italian (male, if I remember correctly) and was originally called “Voo Doo Knife Holder” or something like that. I think it was marketed in the UK before it became available in the US, and it wasn’t marketed as “The Ex” over there, either. I first saw “The Ex” marketing when it became available for purchase in the US.
Personally, I was a little confused by the whole “Ex” marketing campaign, because that’s not how I saw the item at all. And I still love it.
No, Kali — I was (and continue to be) horrified by that knife holder. That kind of overt Violence against anyone — regardless of gender — creeps me out.
I can’t imagine plunging a knife in to anyone — not even my asshole ex who broke my cheekbone in a “fit of pique” when he failed his MCATS.
He’d find Lusty Linda a real hoot, too.
Exactly Crabby. I’m amazed(not really) at how people here attempt to rationalize the knife holder as just playful fun. If it had a pair of boobs you’d all be knawing at your keyboards.
“Perhaps I am overly optimistic about the human condition, but I think most of these are sold to the “embarrassing X-rated gag gift” market. And then they end up in the dumpster, or the back of a closet (next to the blow-up sheep).”
Exactly. And trying to divine some kind of wider cultural more from such an item is ridiculous.
The best part about this thread is reading the halfwit justifications of all the loser guys that have no problem with rape toys trying to defend it. It’s clearly a female character and you are clearly violating them (unlike the non-characterized and not even gender-specific knife holder) and yes, something *is* wrong with you if you found it funny.
I’m not surprised that more men aren’t angered by this though, to be honest: like so many things, people in general tend to not give a shit about racism/sexism/victimization unless it impacts them directly. Of course such things impact us all in different ways, but some people are too self-centered to see that (or lack the intellectual capacity/curiosity to think about it).
No, I disagree. A culture where either of those items is acceptable needs to self-examine. The fact that there is a market for either item is seriously fucked.
That kind of base violence and disdain — of utter degradation — on such a fundamental level points to serious issues.
Look at that knife block through the eyes of a child. What message does it send? The figure is gender-ambiguous (the marketing of “the Ex” could make the ex male or female) , but that does not make it acceptable. Violence is violence is violence, and such a representation makes such violence acceptable — or at least easily glossed over.
oh gawd oswald, you really can’t see the difference in the two? I wouldn’t own the knife holder, but it has major Voodoo doll qualities and enough asexuallity that it could either be man or woman.
Even the discriptive write up extolls that fact “STORE YOUR KNIVES IN AN ANONYMOUS EFFIGY DEDICATED TO WHOMEVER YOU PLEASE”
(emphasis mine)
Does it say anything in a male voice when you plunge the knife in? No
Does it have any excusively “male” parts? No
And none of the permanent knife slits are in any “male genital area.”
You’ve got to be really reaching to claim any “anti-male feminazi” purpose to the knife holder . . . where as misogyny is all over the big boobied, pencil to the female genital area pencil holder.
Thanks for playing “really bad analogolies,” try again real soon!
analogolies = analogies
seroj
November 27, 2007 at 9:05 pm
Maybe Yuri K. has a point…
http://www.thedrunkengoat.com.au/?stg=393&view=393
Come on! You laughed and you know it!
Maybe in your strange little world, but no, ick, not funny.
Not even “gay friend” funny, but I guess funny for the homophobes who beat the crap out of my friends for being gay.
It’s one of those things, when I see it that I shake my head when I see it.
crabby - did any of the people who admitted to owning the knife holder say they have kids? Do you know if they have kids?
If the knifeholder had a
pair of boobsa penis you’d all beknawing at your keyboardssaying oswald has a point.There. Fixed it for you.
Oswald, I fail to see how that knife holder suggests that the difference between murder and not-murder is the whininess of the victim. Nor do I see how the law fails to prosecute murder because the victims were asking for it or wanted it or are just crazy bitches.
Point taken. I’d say that your average feminist would be disgusted by this, as well, since it reinforces the notion that women live by and for men exclusively, and the termination of a romantic relationship is worth obsessing over to this point.
Oswald #52—contradicts himself and reveals that he thinks that while even the hint of cartoonish violence against men is wrong, joking about a violence against women that’s happening around the world as we speak is just a cute joke.
Ben: not only a hostile work environment, but presumably one so hard up for employees (possibly due to that hostile work environment?) that subliterate cretins like “Tom from East Midlands” get hired.
The “pencil holder” meanwhile looks like it’s been stabbed in the stomach and partially decapitated. I can’t imagine any thinking human finding it anything other than repellent.
Crabby, Oswald: self-examination or no, violent imagery is everywhere and I defy you to name a culture where it has ever been otherwise. Ours maybe more so than most - whether it’s gung-ho news reports, murder mystery parties, the entire thriller/horror section of your local bookshops and video stores (and most of the sci-fi section too), many damn fine video games or Christ on the cross. Imaginary violence IS EVERYWHERE. Should we self-examine til there’s none of it left? Maybe. Maybe we’d be better off if we did. Til then, I don’t see how you can say my want of a man-shaped knife holder is any more disgusting or repellent than the violent stories my sister writes, or the crucifix on my downstairs neighbour’s front door.
Amanda: I think you’re right about obsessing over relationships being a negative stereotype, but you seem to be dismissing the object only on the basis of the name applied to the object (note that that name was only used in the US - I realise now that I must not’ve known of it before yesterday because in the UK it didn’t have that name at all). In other words, the designers have applied that name because they think USians would be into the idea of stabbing their exes, and for some reason they don’t think people in other nations would feel the same. So I see it more of a description of one of the forms of violence US culture is obsessed with, rather than a mark against the object itself.
Does this mean it’s less ‘disgusting’ to buy it in the UK, where it has a different name?
Re: Air Sex. We went, and I managed to egg two people into it. One friend did a masturbation routine involving the microwave and Marc and I worked out a skit idea together, where he dressed like a student at Texas A&M and pretended to fuck a sheep to “Dueling Banjos”. (Neat trick I have, coming up with the idea and somehow getting someone else to actually do the humping.) He didn’t win, but I personally think he should have gotten 2nd place. The first place winner was definitely the woman who wore a Bush mask and a suit and stripped down to a red, white and blue leotard and a strap-on and fucked a globe.
Pretending to rape a defenseless animal is funny? Only in Texas…
Count me in with those who find this offensive, demeaning and, most of all, stupid. (Seriously, Auguste was right — the designer of this has the anatomical knowledge of a horny pre-teen).
But, to be fair, there is this (from one of the sites that sells this POS):
http://funideas.com/mrbuttfacepenholder.html
Maybe the sheep was consenting.
Yup, that’s us violent Americans all right–all that sunshine and wide open spaces, don’tcha know. (/snark)
Seriously, when I looked at it, I thought it was a visual pun; the figure kinda looks like an X, and you can pretend it’s your “ex”. What do they call it over on the other side of the Big Drink?
I’m somewhat confused about the negative reactions to the knifeholder. Mostly because there seem to be some unstated assumptions that just don’t make any sense to me.
The marketing blurb from that website is dumb, and when I’ve seen it in stores, it didn’t have any such context attached to it, it was just a Keith Herring-esque statue acting as a knife holder.
No one is stabbing that thing. I don’t know about anyone here, but I sure as hell don’t have the manual dexterity to pull a knife out an plunge it back in the exact same narrow slot in anything that resembles a violent stab.
Honestly, my reaction to it was more as a sort of embodiment of misfortune, which you would relate to on the level of “Wow, some days feel like that.” It’s a molded plastic countertop version of the “Hang In There Baby” cat posters.
Which indeed, puts it in an extraordinarily different category from the raperweight.
What I find fascinating about this stuff is that the male audience for these toys are probably the same kinds of guys who dwell bitterly over the way Andrea Dworkin pointed out that our society constructs heterosexual intercourse as rape.
Uh. I don’t think they dwell on it at all. They don’t even think about it — even making the assumption that they know who Dworkin is…
These are the guys who go for the talking bass wall plaque thing.
That sounds like my entire high school experience, except that wasn’t exactly a “cunning plan.” More like a “getting invited to the wrong parties.”
Amanda, I can be as sexist as any old goat my age can be, but this pen holder gimmick is just plain awful!
This is kind of sick. This is like something you might find in a frat house that makes the local “Flounder” giggle.
I don’t think any mature man or woman should tolerate this “woman’s privates as a penholder” being around.
I doubt there is a male audience that really thinks this is funny. This is the sort of thing that’s given as a gag gift at a stag party, that’s all.
It’s the same kind of guys who dwell on the “hillarity” of Deliverence a bit too long. My friends and I did when we were 15 and nervous because we weren’t too sure what was acceptable or not. 45 year olds should find this stuff boring, and should be embarrassed for anyone to see this at the bottom of their desk junk drawer.
Oswald has a point you see because most men are killed by their ex-wives and ex-girlfriends instead of being killed by other men. This kind of product makes fun of and encourges that society wide woman-on-man violence.
Tsk tsk, feminsts.
There are two others in the line: Mr. Butt Face and Mr. Boss. They are equally dreadful.
http://www.prankplace.com/penman.htm
Outside of the twisted I can see this item appealing to recently divorced men who have just had to divy up the assets with the ex. That can engender a lot of homicidal thoughts. They get stuff like this then and hopefully three years later toss it out with other stupid junk as they rebuild and heal.
The ones who take it to work and have it on their desk are the guys to watch out for; borderline office shooters.
I just looked a little closer at the pen-holder thing, more than yesterday’s passing glance and I just noticed something. It’s wearing a bra. Because showing breasts on this sick toy would be, you know, obscene.
I must be a weirdo or something, but I don’t think this product is funny at all.
RobW sez:
Great point…reminds me of the police beating that aired on CNN a year or so ago where they showed every kick and blow and carefully bleeped every curse word…you know, for the sake of decency!
the male audience for these toys are probably the same kinds of guys who dwell bitterly over the way Andrea Dworkin
I doubt that most of the audience that finds this funny have ever heard of Andrea Dworkin.
This is certainly offensive, but I seriously doubt that the vast majority of the “male audience for these toys” have ever read, or heard of, Andrea Dworkin.
Just sayin’
Yup, sure have. But I still hate misogynist fags. Hate hets showing off their privilege by colonizing other people’s spaces as well.
Ah, Chris, you couldn’t be more wrong about the joke. We were the ones mocking our sheep-fucking, tobacco-chewing brethern, not emulating them. But now you’ve made me slightly defensive of them, much as I generally find the entire redneck-y culture of A&M utterly repulsive.
Also, I don’t actually think Aggies fuck sheep. If I did, my suggestion would probably be a lot more twisted.
Simulating a rape is a joke?
I don’t think we can stipulate that the animal “consented” (despite what was posted earlier by NBarnes). However, what I find more alarming is that you would write a “rape skit,” and then cast your friend in the role of rapist. He was then forced to act out the rape in front of a room full of people cheering him on.
Because it was just a simulation, it’s not clear who was supposed to be more humiliated: the rapist or the raped.
This toy is in incredibly poor taste and isn’t funny, but I also think that getting offended by it is a waste of time. People who buy something like this are pathetic, but not because they “hate women,” rather because they have really puerile and disgusting senses of humor.
Buggering sheep is no more rape than killing a sheep is murder. It may be cruel (I have no idea how the ewe feels about it), but it’s not rape.
Yeah, crap like this has got to make you wonder what the average Chinese factory worker thinks Americans are really like. Then again, they’re exporting their unwanted daughters here too.
What kills me is the warning on the package’s lower-right corner about how it’s not suitable for children because it’s a choking hazard. I know, they have to put that there for legal reasons, but come on. If you’re a little kid in the custody of someone who gives you something like that, you’ve got problems that go beyond potentially choking.
Pretty sick stuff.
I’m sure the audience for this rape toy is very likely small (no pun intended). If that gives any comfort?
Pretty sick stuff.
I’m sure the audience for this rape toy is very likely small (no pun intended). If that gives any comfort?
It’s amazing how many of Shakespeare’s Sister’s examples violated Photobucket’s TOS. Perhaps she needs to go ahead and steal bandwidth from the original sites for this garbage to post the items.
I’ve known many fine men in my life, still do. However, things like this make me delighted I’m finally age disqualified from the dating pool and that I will never, ever have to put up with the men who find this stuff amusing, ever again.
For the record, the above comment about Dworkin was 100% right. The men who whine the loudest about her are the men about whom she was totally right.
For the record, the discussion of the knife rack and any attempt to equate it with a rape figurine is silly. Sublimation of violence against a generalized figure via knife rack is on the level of A&B against a sofa pillow when the day’s gone wrong. The former isn’t my taste, but I can see that it’s completely different from ritualized rape on a specific gender figure.
Liberal Chris, do you have any clue how offensive the “Just ignore it, move along, nothing to see here” response is?
In case you didn’t know, I’ll fill you in: it is INCREDIBLY offensive and in effect is no different from telling someone to “Shut up and get over it”. You may as well just come right out and tell us to shut our uppity bitch mouths.
If someone made a toy that simulated a black person getting lynched would you tell them to just move on and get over it when they complained? I am sometimes staggered by how *certain* types of discrimination occur in society with its tacit approval.
Do any of you know where I can find a Prometheus bird feeder?
Men, including Christian American men, go to Asia and rape little girls. They call it prostitution, but when children are involved, it’s rape. And all over the world really. This is not surprising then.
Zandru: WOW. No, but if you pay me I’ll make you one.
So I had an idea to fix this toy: when the doofus owner shoves the pen in to the sounds of ‘ouch’ and ‘no!,’ The pen is clamped forcefully in place when he later tries to remove it.
The doofus owner will pull harder and harder, ‘cause he’s not gonna let a girl desk accessory boss HIM around – then it releases suddenly, causing the pen to make a sudden, forceful and unwelcome entry in the owner’s eye socket.
‘Ouch!’
Chris, I’m deeply offended that you’re conflating a crime that actually happens to real women with a joke about something that’s not actually happening (and that it’s not happening is why it’s a joke). There’s enough of the real world to be outraged about; why be outraged about something that’s literally a joke that only works if you grasp that it’s not happening? Aggies also don’t play Appalachian folk music as a general rule, shear sheep for sport or wear straw hats in the middle of the night. Hyperbole is the point of the joke. Why don’t you get offended on the behalf of the actual target of the joke? Let’s get a hair up our asses about football rivalries!
Majeff:
I was in a bar invaded by a bachelorette party, and it was really fun — they had the table right next to the stage where the drag queens were performing. This one performer was totally intoxicated, and her leopard skin bodice kept slipping down and exposing her boobs while she drunkenly lip-synched. The bachelorettes would run up a the first sight of boob exposure, kiss her on the cheek, yank up her bodice and stuff in a tip — it was funny, and touching at the same time.
Believe it or not, I know of at least one woman who would have found this kind of shit hilarious. This kind of “gag” would be exactly my grandmother’s cup of tea.
She’s gone completely Alzheimer-ey now, so I can’t get a verifiable opinion out of her any more; but even her fully functioning brain was out of whack enough to think this stuff was a total hoot.
I think that has something to do with why my siblings and I never really spent any time outside of family gatherings at that particular grandmother’s place — and why my father always maintained a decidedly … distant … relationship with her.
eli:
“Yeah, crap like this has got to make you wonder what the average Chinese factory worker thinks Americans are really like. Then again, they’re exporting their unwanted daughters here too.”
One of the funniest things I ever saw on TV was footage of Chinese workers making porn star dildoes — row upon row of giant penii (penises?) — their expressions were priceless.
Maybe they think we’re all hung like that — tee hee.
That is so horrible about the surplus daughter thing — I know so many people with adopted Chinese daughters. They can send the choicest cute, lonely Chinese men my way in a few years
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Does the “Air Sex Contest” help change societal attitudes towards sex for the better?
Quite probably not. If at all, I’d say that there might have been a joke or two about how the sponsors of the event (a sex shop) are technically engaging in illegal activity in our great red state, but on the whole, a largely apolitical event, at least in terms of the politics of sex. There was, as I mentioned, anti-war performance art.