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	<title>Comments on: Drama Queen fundie Janet Folger&#8217;s unhinged vision of the future</title>
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		<title>by: NWPatriot</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/11/24/drama-queen-fundie-janet-folgers-unhinged-vision-of-the-future/#comment-487895</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Let me play &quot;devil's advocate&quot;, as it were....

Let's say Hillary does get elected. (I see this as a distinct possibility after last night.) Now, for years, people like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and dozens of right-wing commentators and Christian authors/commentators have bashed her and her husband. They've called both Clintons everything from &quot;philandering scumbag&quot; to &quot;the Antichrist Herself&quot;.

Now, think of this from a human point of view: If you suddenly gained the power to get back at your enemies (in this case, tools put there by Bush within the last 6 years), wouldn't you be &lt;i&gt;VERY&lt;/i&gt; tempted to do so? As much as she says &quot;what she stands for&quot; in public, &lt;i&gt;we can't see into her mind, into her thoughts.&lt;/i&gt; Who can say what she's really thinking?

Even though they won't say so in a public forum, there are many out there who really do believe that she will enact legislations that persecute right-wingers and/or Christians, simply because of all the bashing they've done against both her and Bill.

As they say, &quot;Payback is a b*tch&quot;.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Let me play &#8220;devil&#8217;s advocate&#8221;, as it were&#8230;.</p>
	<p>Let&#8217;s say Hillary does get elected. (I see this as a distinct possibility after last night.) Now, for years, people like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and dozens of right-wing commentators and Christian authors/commentators have bashed her and her husband. They&#8217;ve called both Clintons everything from &#8220;philandering scumbag&#8221; to &#8220;the Antichrist Herself&#8221;.</p>
	<p>Now, think of this from a human point of view: If you suddenly gained the power to get back at your enemies (in this case, tools put there by Bush within the last 6 years), wouldn&#8217;t you be <i>VERY</i> tempted to do so? As much as she says &#8220;what she stands for&#8221; in public, <i>we can&#8217;t see into her mind, into her thoughts.</i> Who can say what she&#8217;s really thinking?</p>
	<p>Even though they won&#8217;t say so in a public forum, there are many out there who really do believe that she will enact legislations that persecute right-wingers and/or Christians, simply because of all the bashing they&#8217;ve done against both her and Bill.</p>
	<p>As they say, &#8220;Payback is a b*tch&#8221;&#8230;..
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		<title>by: NWPatriot</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/11/24/drama-queen-fundie-janet-folgers-unhinged-vision-of-the-future/#comment-487890</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Let me play &quot;devil's advocate&quot;, as it were....

Let's say Hillary does get elected. (I see this as a distinct possibility after last night.) Now, for years, people like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and dozens of right-wing commentators and Christian authors/commentators have bashed her and her husband. They've called both Clintons everything from &quot;philandering scumbag&quot; to &quot;the Antichrist Herself&quot;.

Now, think of this from a human point of view: If you suddenly gained the power to get back at your enemies (in this case, tools put there by Bush within the last 6 years), wouldn't you be &lt;i&gt;VERY&lt;/i&gt; tempted to do so? As much as she says &quot;what she stands for&quot; in public, &lt;i&gt;we can't see into her mind, into her thoughts.&lt;/i&gt; Who can say what she's really thinking?

Even though they won't say so in a public forum, there are many out there who really do believe that she will enact legislations that persecute right-wingers and/or Christians, simply because of all the bashing they've done against both her and Bill.

As they say, &quot;Payback is a b*tch&quot;.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Let me play &#8220;devil&#8217;s advocate&#8221;, as it were&#8230;.</p>
	<p>Let&#8217;s say Hillary does get elected. (I see this as a distinct possibility after last night.) Now, for years, people like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and dozens of right-wing commentators and Christian authors/commentators have bashed her and her husband. They&#8217;ve called both Clintons everything from &#8220;philandering scumbag&#8221; to &#8220;the Antichrist Herself&#8221;.</p>
	<p>Now, think of this from a human point of view: If you suddenly gained the power to get back at your enemies (in this case, tools put there by Bush within the last 6 years), wouldn&#8217;t you be <i>VERY</i> tempted to do so? As much as she says &#8220;what she stands for&#8221; in public, <i>we can&#8217;t see into her mind, into her thoughts.</i> Who can say what she&#8217;s really thinking?</p>
	<p>Even though they won&#8217;t say so in a public forum, there are many out there who really do believe that she will enact legislations that persecute right-wingers and/or Christians, simply because of all the bashing they&#8217;ve done against both her and Bill.</p>
	<p>As they say, &#8220;Payback is a b*tch&#8221;&#8230;..
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		<title>by: Blue Jean</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I missed the most exciting things about Janet’s “letter”; the part where she’s forced to divorce her husband, get an abortion, and marry a lesbian–not necessarily in that order. I guess the Evil Left censored that part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I missed the most exciting things about Janet’s “letter”; the part where she’s forced to divorce her husband, get an abortion, and marry a lesbian–not necessarily in that order. I guess the Evil Left censored that part.
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		<title>by: Jovan1984</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/11/24/drama-queen-fundie-janet-folgers-unhinged-vision-of-the-future/#comment-468672</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Yes, I do, clytemnestra.

Here are the links:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://aikenareaprogressive.blogspot.com/2007/10/mike-huckabee-spreads-same-lies-in.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Huckabee spreads same lies in Situation Room&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://aikenareaprogressive.blogspot.com/2007/10/mike-huckabee-is-obvious-woman-hater.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mike Huckabee is an Obvious Woman-Hater&lt;/a&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Yes, I do, clytemnestra.</p>
	<p>Here are the links:</p>
	<p><a href="http://aikenareaprogressive.blogspot.com/2007/10/mike-huckabee-spreads-same-lies-in.html" rel="nofollow">Huckabee spreads same lies in Situation Room</a></p>
	<p><a href="http://aikenareaprogressive.blogspot.com/2007/10/mike-huckabee-is-obvious-woman-hater.html" rel="nofollow">Mike Huckabee is an Obvious Woman-Hater</a>
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		<title>by: karpad</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/11/24/drama-queen-fundie-janet-folgers-unhinged-vision-of-the-future/#comment-468605</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;I thought Christian fundamentalists like Jews now? You know, John John Hagee and “standing with Israel” and all that.&lt;/i&gt;

They support Israel, because the existance of the jewish state is necessary for their dispensationalist beliefs about what happens in the end of days. Basically &quot;So Jesus knows where they are for when he wants to start armageddon.&quot;

Not REALLY support, is it?

&lt;i&gt;Or Feinstein and Schumer sound *German*, and therefore sound Fascist to Janet Folger?&lt;/i&gt;

Giving her wayyyy too much credit. and last I checked (which was actually about a month ago, talking Geneology with my Great Uncle, who's last name is Schumer) Schumer is actually a yiddish name, as is -stein almost without exception.

It's not a German thing. It's a Jewish thing, take it to the bank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>I thought Christian fundamentalists like Jews now? You know, John John Hagee and “standing with Israel” and all that.</i></p>
	<p>They support Israel, because the existance of the jewish state is necessary for their dispensationalist beliefs about what happens in the end of days. Basically &#8220;So Jesus knows where they are for when he wants to start armageddon.&#8221;</p>
	<p>Not REALLY support, is it?</p>
	<p><i>Or Feinstein and Schumer sound *German*, and therefore sound Fascist to Janet Folger?</i></p>
	<p>Giving her wayyyy too much credit. and last I checked (which was actually about a month ago, talking Geneology with my Great Uncle, who&#8217;s last name is Schumer) Schumer is actually a yiddish name, as is -stein almost without exception.</p>
	<p>It&#8217;s not a German thing. It&#8217;s a Jewish thing, take it to the bank.
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		<title>by: clytemnestra</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/11/24/drama-queen-fundie-janet-folgers-unhinged-vision-of-the-future/#comment-468596</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I have a comment in moderation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I have a comment in moderation
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		<title>by: clytemnestra</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/11/24/drama-queen-fundie-janet-folgers-unhinged-vision-of-the-future/#comment-468595</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Gah . .  I . . . can . . . not . . . resist. . . .

&lt;blockquote&gt;Although, if Iraq turns out good in the next year or so, Bush will be looked upon kindly by history. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

The only time history has looked &quot;kindly&quot; on someone who allowed ethnic cleansing/mass murder on an unimaginable scale to happen was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.draculas.info/vlad_iii_dracula/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Vlad Tepes&lt;/a&gt; (Vlad the Impaler).  And that is only because:
1. he had so many people impaled that the shear horror of what he could do to his own people stopped the invading Muslim army and they turned for home - so Vlad got his &quot;turned out good&quot;
2. Only the Romanian and parnoid right wing Christians see him as and write of him as a hero.  To everyone else he was a &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_III_Dracula&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cold hearted Mofo&lt;/a&gt;, responsible for much misery and blood shed and who while making his own escape left his young wife to the mercy of an invading army.

History will not look kindly on Bush or his presendency, and his and his  administration's countless blunders in Iraq and Afghanistan, the graft and greed his administration allowed and supported to rape Iraq, and the economic mess made here at home will override any bump he may get from &quot;Iraq turning out okay.&quot;



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Gah . .  I . . . can . . . not . . . resist. . . .</p>
	<blockquote><p>Although, if Iraq turns out good in the next year or so, Bush will be looked upon kindly by history. </p></blockquote>
	<p>The only time history has looked &#8220;kindly&#8221; on someone who allowed ethnic cleansing/mass murder on an unimaginable scale to happen was <a href="http://www.draculas.info/vlad_iii_dracula/" rel="nofollow">Vlad Tepes</a> (Vlad the Impaler).  And that is only because:<br />
1. he had so many people impaled that the shear horror of what he could do to his own people stopped the invading Muslim army and they turned for home - so Vlad got his &#8220;turned out good&#8221;<br />
2. Only the Romanian and parnoid right wing Christians see him as and write of him as a hero.  To everyone else he was a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_III_Dracula" rel="nofollow">cold hearted Mofo</a>, responsible for much misery and blood shed and who while making his own escape left his young wife to the mercy of an invading army.</p>
	<p>History will not look kindly on Bush or his presendency, and his and his  administration&#8217;s countless blunders in Iraq and Afghanistan, the graft and greed his administration allowed and supported to rape Iraq, and the economic mess made here at home will override any bump he may get from &#8220;Iraq turning out okay.&#8221;
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		<title>by: Lee Richards</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/11/24/drama-queen-fundie-janet-folgers-unhinged-vision-of-the-future/#comment-468582</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 15:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;Don’t count your disastrous presidencies until they’ve actually materialized and metastasized… &lt;/i&gt;

yea, I know what you're saying, but I don't really care who becomes president. Do they wield power like we think they are? Or are they puppets on a string? I haven't decided yet..

I don't know. I am not that smart.

I do think Hillary will be president. And believe it or not, I wish her well. I hope history will show her to be an excellent president. I hope she leads through the Constitution, instead of over it.

You do have a point about President Bush. His presidency has turned into a nightmare. Imagine what history will say about him. Although, if Iraq turns out good in the next year or so, Bush will be looked upon kindly by history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Don’t count your disastrous presidencies until they’ve actually materialized and metastasized… </i></p>
	<p>yea, I know what you&#8217;re saying, but I don&#8217;t really care who becomes president. Do they wield power like we think they are? Or are they puppets on a string? I haven&#8217;t decided yet..</p>
	<p>I don&#8217;t know. I am not that smart.</p>
	<p>I do think Hillary will be president. And believe it or not, I wish her well. I hope history will show her to be an excellent president. I hope she leads through the Constitution, instead of over it.</p>
	<p>You do have a point about President Bush. His presidency has turned into a nightmare. Imagine what history will say about him. Although, if Iraq turns out good in the next year or so, Bush will be looked upon kindly by history.
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		<title>by: MikeEss</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 14:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Lee, I'm pretty sure I said &quot;...no future president, of any party...&quot;.

This is not a partisan issue...  

&lt;i&gt;&quot;HA!! What makes you so sure the democrats will be ANY different then the republicans, outside of raising taxes and to try to balance the budget?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

If the current Democratic majority in Congress is any indication, things won't be much different.  Which, if that happens, will be a very important missed opportunity.

OTOH, many Americans were absolutely convinced that anybody was going to be an improvement over Bill Clinton.  It just turned out that a lot of Americans didn't have imaginations large enough and outrageous enough to see what Bush/Cheney actually did to us coming in 2000...

Don't count your disastrous presidencies until they've actually materialized and metastasized...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Lee, I&#8217;m pretty sure I said &#8220;&#8230;no future president, of any party&#8230;&#8221;.</p>
	<p>This is not a partisan issue&#8230;  </p>
	<p><i>&#8220;HA!! What makes you so sure the democrats will be ANY different then the republicans, outside of raising taxes and to try to balance the budget?&#8221;</i></p>
	<p>If the current Democratic majority in Congress is any indication, things won&#8217;t be much different.  Which, if that happens, will be a very important missed opportunity.</p>
	<p>OTOH, many Americans were absolutely convinced that anybody was going to be an improvement over Bill Clinton.  It just turned out that a lot of Americans didn&#8217;t have imaginations large enough and outrageous enough to see what Bush/Cheney actually did to us coming in 2000&#8230;</p>
	<p>Don&#8217;t count your disastrous presidencies until they&#8217;ve actually materialized and metastasized&#8230;
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		<title>by: Incertus Brian, Nacho Daddy</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 14:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;There have been many anti-war protests. Problem is, they get hijacked by Communist-front organizations (ANSWER) and get turned into anti-capitalism, anti-Jew, pro-Mumia, pro-Castro rallies. For obvious reasons I don’t feel comfortable participating in them, and neither do a lot of other anti-war people who aren’t on the left.
&lt;/i&gt;

And even when they don't get hijacked like that, they get little if any news coverage by the main news organs of television or newsprint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>There have been many anti-war protests. Problem is, they get hijacked by Communist-front organizations (ANSWER) and get turned into anti-capitalism, anti-Jew, pro-Mumia, pro-Castro rallies. For obvious reasons I don’t feel comfortable participating in them, and neither do a lot of other anti-war people who aren’t on the left.<br />
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	<p>And even when they don&#8217;t get hijacked like that, they get little if any news coverage by the main news organs of television or newsprint.
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