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		<title>by: Erl</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/11/24/6355/#comment-507062</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 19:37:45 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Here's what I don't get. If some races are naturally less intelligent, &lt;i&gt;why is it necessary to oppress them?&lt;/i&gt; In the same vein, of course, as the painfully obvious question: if abortion/gay sex/atheism is against God's will, why is it possible? But to return to the original: if black people are less intelligent (and of course they aren't) then why not just treat them equally and watch, victoriously, as they drift to the bottom? The answer, of course, is that they &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; equal, and those who claim they aren't are terrified of being proven wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Here&#8217;s what I don&#8217;t get. If some races are naturally less intelligent, <i>why is it necessary to oppress them?</i> In the same vein, of course, as the painfully obvious question: if abortion/gay sex/atheism is against God&#8217;s will, why is it possible? But to return to the original: if black people are less intelligent (and of course they aren&#8217;t) then why not just treat them equally and watch, victoriously, as they drift to the bottom? The answer, of course, is that they <i>are</i> equal, and those who claim they aren&#8217;t are terrified of being proven wrong.
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		<title>by: DB</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/11/24/6355/#comment-469050</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I haven't read all the comments yet, but I recall reading years ago about the project in the 1930's where people were recording the stories of former slaves.  The men collecting the stories were very surprised that the former slaves did not fondly recall their bondage as a gentle, pleasant time rather than the grim reality it was.

I wish I could remember where I saw this, haven't been able to track it down. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I haven&#8217;t read all the comments yet, but I recall reading years ago about the project in the 1930&#8217;s where people were recording the stories of former slaves.  The men collecting the stories were very surprised that the former slaves did not fondly recall their bondage as a gentle, pleasant time rather than the grim reality it was.</p>
	<p>I wish I could remember where I saw this, haven&#8217;t been able to track it down.
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		<title>by: Chet</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/11/24/6355/#comment-469012</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;I dunno why the link was broken. Possibly my HTML-fu is weak today.&lt;/i&gt;

&quot;A&quot; tags for hyperlinks only have one HREF argument; yours has two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>I dunno why the link was broken. Possibly my HTML-fu is weak today.</i></p>
	<p>&#8220;A&#8221; tags for hyperlinks only have one HREF argument; yours has two.
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		<title>by: The Dark Avenger and Guardian of Ten Gold Chow Mein</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/11/24/6355/#comment-468911</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;they don’t got the creative genius that white folks got.&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, paper, gunpowder, paper currency, etc., all couldn't have been created by folks with yellow skin.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>they don’t got the creative genius that white folks got.</i></p>
	<p>Yes, paper, gunpowder, paper currency, etc., all couldn&#8217;t have been created by folks with yellow skin.
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		<title>by: Maureen</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/11/24/6355/#comment-468873</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 21:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>So really, the only people who come out ahead in Saletan's analysis are Ashkenazi Jews... hey wait.... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>So really, the only people who come out ahead in Saletan&#8217;s analysis are Ashkenazi Jews&#8230; hey wait&#8230;.
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		<title>by: lou</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/11/24/6355/#comment-468670</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;I took a look at that Slate article that’s also been causing such a to-do, and it repeated a puzzling parallel claim: that not only are black people stupider than white people, but Asian people are smarter than white people.&lt;/i&gt;

But they still find a way to make white people superior -- by, for example, claiming Asians are great mimics and technically proficient but they don't got the creative genius that white folks got. And creativity can't be measured, so ...make any convenient claim you want!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>I took a look at that Slate article that’s also been causing such a to-do, and it repeated a puzzling parallel claim: that not only are black people stupider than white people, but Asian people are smarter than white people.</i></p>
	<p>But they still find a way to make white people superior &#8212; by, for example, claiming Asians are great mimics and technically proficient but they don&#8217;t got the creative genius that white folks got. And creativity can&#8217;t be measured, so &#8230;make any convenient claim you want!
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		<title>by: inge</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/11/24/6355/#comment-468651</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 07:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Indy: &lt;i&gt;If you consider pizza a form of italian food, i think italian would still come out ahead. &lt;/i&gt;

Depends on the pizza. As one Italian chef once said when asked to do a banana pizza (all Italian expletives deleted): &quot;That is something only a German can come up with.&quot;

And I learned yesterday that Doener, while Turkish, is native to Berlin. Even with food defining ethnicity is difficult...

Personally I'd have thought that the most popular ethnic food in the US was of Belgian origin. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Indy: <i>If you consider pizza a form of italian food, i think italian would still come out ahead. </i></p>
	<p>Depends on the pizza. As one Italian chef once said when asked to do a banana pizza (all Italian expletives deleted): &#8220;That is something only a German can come up with.&#8221;</p>
	<p>And I learned yesterday that Doener, while Turkish, is native to Berlin. Even with food defining ethnicity is difficult&#8230;</p>
	<p>Personally I&#8217;d have thought that the most popular ethnic food in the US was of Belgian origin.
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		<title>by: woodland sunflower, nibbler of sorrel</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/11/24/6355/#comment-468636</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>PitTR (@42):

&lt;blockquote&gt;Define “race.” Do so scientifically.

That’s simple:

Superior Race: O bloodtype
Saintly Givers: O- Bloodtype
Fags: A bloodtype
Sluts: B bloodtype
Nerds: AB bloodtype
Really Selfish Takers: AB+ Bloodtype

This makes far more sense than stereotyping by skin colour, given how brown the recent good weather has turned me.

The one drawback is that it’s sometimes slow to figure out who not to hire or sell to, and in the worst case scenario the blood tests can really be a bottleneck when loading people into cattlecars, but you can’t have everything.

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Heh.  I have a Japanese foreign exchange student who just wrote on that very topic for the prejudice section of her history class cuz it so happens they actually take that blood type stuff &lt;em&gt;seriously&lt;/em&gt; over there.  She remembered quite vividly controversial television programs that paired children up to see whether their blood types were compatible.  The pseudoscience sorts folks' intelligence by rareness, so O's are the average slobs on the bottom and AB's on the top  since Rh factor is evidently not an issue.  That is, B- is rarer than AB+, but ABs are all on top.

She says it's no longer a problem, but I found it pretty damn scary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>PitTR (@42):</p>
	<blockquote><p>Define “race.” Do so scientifically.</p>
	<p>That’s simple:</p>
	<p>Superior Race: O bloodtype<br />
Saintly Givers: O- Bloodtype<br />
Fags: A bloodtype<br />
Sluts: B bloodtype<br />
Nerds: AB bloodtype<br />
Really Selfish Takers: AB+ Bloodtype</p>
	<p>This makes far more sense than stereotyping by skin colour, given how brown the recent good weather has turned me.</p>
	<p>The one drawback is that it’s sometimes slow to figure out who not to hire or sell to, and in the worst case scenario the blood tests can really be a bottleneck when loading people into cattlecars, but you can’t have everything.</p>
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	<p>Heh.  I have a Japanese foreign exchange student who just wrote on that very topic for the prejudice section of her history class cuz it so happens they actually take that blood type stuff <em>seriously</em> over there.  She remembered quite vividly controversial television programs that paired children up to see whether their blood types were compatible.  The pseudoscience sorts folks&#8217; intelligence by rareness, so O&#8217;s are the average slobs on the bottom and AB&#8217;s on the top  since Rh factor is evidently not an issue.  That is, B- is rarer than AB+, but ABs are all on top.</p>
	<p>She says it&#8217;s no longer a problem, but I found it pretty damn scary.
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		<title>by: Indy</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/11/24/6355/#comment-468617</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>If you consider pizza a form of italian food, i think italian would still come out ahead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>If you consider pizza a form of italian food, i think italian would still come out ahead.
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		<title>by: MikeEss</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/11/24/6355/#comment-468586</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;In other words, creationism evolves.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Just like a virus.  Which is what it closely resembles...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>&#8220;In other words, creationism evolves.&#8221;</i></p>
	<p>Just like a virus.  Which is what it closely resembles&#8230;
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