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		<title>by: Angela</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/11/02/6270/#comment-464091</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I would just like to add that even with religious condom use during all sexual encounters it is still possible to contract an STD. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I would just like to add that even with religious condom use during all sexual encounters it is still possible to contract an STD.
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		<title>by: Lizzie, Deity of French Press</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/11/02/6270/#comment-463912</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>(sorry about the blank post! it was supposed to be an apology for shameless blogwhoring.) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>(sorry about the blank post! it was supposed to be an apology for shameless blogwhoring.)
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		<title>by: Lizzie, Deity of French Press</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/11/02/6270/#comment-463910</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Lizzie, Deity of French Press</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/11/02/6270/#comment-463909</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>send them the cojones they so very desperately need. 

www.ballstocongress.com

as soon as we figure out how to send backbones U.S. mail, we'll provide that service, too. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>send them the cojones they so very desperately need. </p>
	<p><a href='http://www.ballstocongress.com' rel='nofollow'>www.ballstocongress.com</a></p>
	<p>as soon as we figure out how to send backbones U.S. mail, we&#8217;ll provide that service, too.
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		<title>by: MAJeff, the God of Biscuits</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/11/02/6270/#comment-463839</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This is one thing I can’t really blame the Democrats on to be honest. Really. I just can’t. The culture, by and large doesn’t like the idea of their children having sex, even safe sex, and because of that, laws will be made to try and prevent it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

See, this is the problem.  The Right's shift to abstinence-only education only came about because their previous position of no sex education in the schools was no longer tenable.  One of the things the AIDS crisis of the late 1980s/early 1990s did was increase popular support for sex education that included the use of condoms for disease prevention.  Most people favor comprehensive education.  However, when the right wingers took over Congress it took 'em a few years, but in 1996 they finally started to get federal funding of abstinence only education.  

The reason the Democrats don't fight this sort of thing is not because there's actual popular opposition to comprehensive sex education, but because they're frightened of the whackjob opposition that does exist.  For crying out loud, the abstinence freaks here in MA tried to claim that Governor Patrick supported 11-year-olds having sex because he rejected federal abstinence only funds.  People understand that these folks are whackjobs.  The Democrats would do better to take them on than to try to get on board with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>This is one thing I can’t really blame the Democrats on to be honest. Really. I just can’t. The culture, by and large doesn’t like the idea of their children having sex, even safe sex, and because of that, laws will be made to try and prevent it.</p></blockquote>
	<p>See, this is the problem.  The Right&#8217;s shift to abstinence-only education only came about because their previous position of no sex education in the schools was no longer tenable.  One of the things the AIDS crisis of the late 1980s/early 1990s did was increase popular support for sex education that included the use of condoms for disease prevention.  Most people favor comprehensive education.  However, when the right wingers took over Congress it took &#8216;em a few years, but in 1996 they finally started to get federal funding of abstinence only education.  </p>
	<p>The reason the Democrats don&#8217;t fight this sort of thing is not because there&#8217;s actual popular opposition to comprehensive sex education, but because they&#8217;re frightened of the whackjob opposition that does exist.  For crying out loud, the abstinence freaks here in MA tried to claim that Governor Patrick supported 11-year-olds having sex because he rejected federal abstinence only funds.  People understand that these folks are whackjobs.  The Democrats would do better to take them on than to try to get on board with them.
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		<title>by: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/11/02/6270/#comment-463837</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 19:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This is one thing I can’t really blame the Democrats on to be honest. Really. I just can’t. The culture, by and large doesn’t like the idea of their children having sex, even safe sex, and because of that, laws will be made to try and prevent it.

It’s not a political issue, it’s a cultural issue. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why are political and cultural mutually exclusive, again?  I must have missed that day of political philosophy 101.

I can sure as fuck blame the democrats for this.  They're bending over backwards to rim the values-voters ever-so-softly, meanwhile throwing kids to the goddamn wolves.  Give me one fucking reason that the democrats should get a pass for this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>This is one thing I can’t really blame the Democrats on to be honest. Really. I just can’t. The culture, by and large doesn’t like the idea of their children having sex, even safe sex, and because of that, laws will be made to try and prevent it.</p>
	<p>It’s not a political issue, it’s a cultural issue. </p></blockquote>
	<p>Why are political and cultural mutually exclusive, again?  I must have missed that day of political philosophy 101.</p>
	<p>I can sure as fuck blame the democrats for this.  They&#8217;re bending over backwards to rim the values-voters ever-so-softly, meanwhile throwing kids to the goddamn wolves.  Give me one fucking reason that the democrats should get a pass for this?
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		<title>by: Jovan1984</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/11/02/6270/#comment-463817</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Amanda, et. al. now you all wonder why only one in every nine people approve of the job the Democratic Congress.  They should be spending more time responding to the demands of the people in this country and less time responding to the demands of George Bush and his crooked cronies.

As for my fellow Palmetto Steven Colbert, it was supposed to have been a one-state only deal.  I'm disappointed that he won't be on any ballots.  For those who don't know, where I reside at in Williston is 104 miles west of Charleston, where Colbert lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Amanda, et. al. now you all wonder why only one in every nine people approve of the job the Democratic Congress.  They should be spending more time responding to the demands of the people in this country and less time responding to the demands of George Bush and his crooked cronies.</p>
	<p>As for my fellow Palmetto Steven Colbert, it was supposed to have been a one-state only deal.  I&#8217;m disappointed that he won&#8217;t be on any ballots.  For those who don&#8217;t know, where I reside at in Williston is 104 miles west of Charleston, where Colbert lives.
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		<title>by: Louise, Bringer of Party Platters and Heinekens</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/11/02/6270/#comment-463805</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 15:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Right up there with &quot;eating ice cream after hot spicy food will make it less painful the next morning when you dump&quot;- who comes UP with these???

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Right up there with &#8220;eating ice cream after hot spicy food will make it less painful the next morning when you dump&#8221;- who comes UP with these???
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		<title>by: No One of Consequence</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/11/02/6270/#comment-463779</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>If the parents don't talk about sex, don't wait for them. If you have a close relationship to the child, talk to the child him or herself. The parents aren't just failing the child -- they're failing his peers and you. Who he or she has sex with will affect everyone else. Out of all the friends and associates I know who grew up in religious households and, as a result, had to observe omerta when it came to sex. The ones that grew up witout being rather fucked up were all of exceptional intelligence. The &quot;normal kids&quot; got pregnant, diseased, or neurotic. Basically, from what I can figure (and from my own experiences) quick and clever kids with poor parenting on sexual matters will find out the truth before they do something horribly stupid. Maybe -- not a hard and fast rule.

As a result, there's no ethical bar to talking to a child about sex so long as it's well-received. If the parents aren't going to do the job, somebody will. TV and inane peers will fill the void -- something _always_ does. If you don't talk, you're leaving it to madison avenue and the spastic guy in fourth period to educate -- the parents have already abicated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>If the parents don&#8217;t talk about sex, don&#8217;t wait for them. If you have a close relationship to the child, talk to the child him or herself. The parents aren&#8217;t just failing the child &#8212; they&#8217;re failing his peers and you. Who he or she has sex with will affect everyone else. Out of all the friends and associates I know who grew up in religious households and, as a result, had to observe omerta when it came to sex. The ones that grew up witout being rather fucked up were all of exceptional intelligence. The &#8220;normal kids&#8221; got pregnant, diseased, or neurotic. Basically, from what I can figure (and from my own experiences) quick and clever kids with poor parenting on sexual matters will find out the truth before they do something horribly stupid. Maybe &#8212; not a hard and fast rule.</p>
	<p>As a result, there&#8217;s no ethical bar to talking to a child about sex so long as it&#8217;s well-received. If the parents aren&#8217;t going to do the job, somebody will. TV and inane peers will fill the void &#8212; something _always_ does. If you don&#8217;t talk, you&#8217;re leaving it to madison avenue and the spastic guy in fourth period to educate &#8212; the parents have already abicated.
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		<title>by: Nenya, Vala of Peanut-Butter Cookies</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/11/02/6270/#comment-463762</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 12:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I worry that my parents &lt;i&gt;will&lt;/i&gt; talk to my younger siblings about sex--because it's almost for sure going to be abstinence-only. Maybe not quite as drastic as the federally-funded programs, but whenever I bring up the topic around my mom, I get hedging and &quot;there's some stuff I want to tell you about this when you're married that will be very useful&quot;--and I'm 27! She knows I've had sex! Luckily both I and my 18-year-old sister have gotten on the pill when we needed it, simply by going to our doctor or the local health clinic, but I always wonder what I ought to say to my 12-year-old sister. I know she's getting &quot;gays are wrong&quot; even though she has a couple of non-straight siblings, so I can imagine there's a lot of &quot;if we ignore it and frown when the idea of sex comes up, she won't do it until she's married&quot; going on. I mean, just last night my mom said she thought the first Mrs. Rochester (from Jane Eyre) went crazy &quot;from living an immoral lifestyle&quot; and had to be prodded to admit that meant that she may have contracted the crazy-making bug syphilis. *sigh* 

How does one get one's parents to talk about sex if they are too shy and/or repressed? Anyone have any luck?

And yeah--I heard the &quot;douching with Coke&quot; theory...as a historical &quot;isn't it funny what they believed in the 1950's?&quot; note on Snopes. Wow...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I worry that my parents <i>will</i> talk to my younger siblings about sex&#8211;because it&#8217;s almost for sure going to be abstinence-only. Maybe not quite as drastic as the federally-funded programs, but whenever I bring up the topic around my mom, I get hedging and &#8220;there&#8217;s some stuff I want to tell you about this when you&#8217;re married that will be very useful&#8221;&#8211;and I&#8217;m 27! She knows I&#8217;ve had sex! Luckily both I and my 18-year-old sister have gotten on the pill when we needed it, simply by going to our doctor or the local health clinic, but I always wonder what I ought to say to my 12-year-old sister. I know she&#8217;s getting &#8220;gays are wrong&#8221; even though she has a couple of non-straight siblings, so I can imagine there&#8217;s a lot of &#8220;if we ignore it and frown when the idea of sex comes up, she won&#8217;t do it until she&#8217;s married&#8221; going on. I mean, just last night my mom said she thought the first Mrs. Rochester (from Jane Eyre) went crazy &#8220;from living an immoral lifestyle&#8221; and had to be prodded to admit that meant that she may have contracted the crazy-making bug syphilis. *sigh* </p>
	<p>How does one get one&#8217;s parents to talk about sex if they are too shy and/or repressed? Anyone have any luck?</p>
	<p>And yeah&#8211;I heard the &#8220;douching with Coke&#8221; theory&#8230;as a historical &#8220;isn&#8217;t it funny what they believed in the 1950&#8217;s?&#8221; note on Snopes. Wow&#8230;
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