Comments on: Moist, damp, gooey and banned on television http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/30/moist-damp-gooey-and-banned-on-television/ Just another WordPress weblog Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:55:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: veriditas http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/30/moist-damp-gooey-and-banned-on-television/#comment-463875 Sun, 04 Nov 2007 05:11:45 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/30/moist-damp-gooey-and-banned-on-television/#comment-463875 <i>Kids usually get trained *out* of thinking slimy, gooey things are cool. Who didn’t like playing with different textures of mud puddle at one time? Or have a slight fascination with snails? Make booger jokes?</i> OK, so people might be grossed out by vaginas because of the fluid they produce. But penises produce fluid too, so why the disgust with vaginas but not penises? It seems like any explanation people can come up with for vag-hating that doesn't involve misogyny involves something that also applies to penises, and doesn't account for why the same traits are yucky in one but not in the other. Kids usually get trained *out* of thinking slimy, gooey things are cool. Who didn’t like playing with different textures of mud puddle at one time? Or have a slight fascination with snails? Make booger jokes?

OK, so people might be grossed out by vaginas because of the fluid they produce. But penises produce fluid too, so why the disgust with vaginas but not penises? It seems like any explanation people can come up with for vag-hating that doesn’t involve misogyny involves something that also applies to penises, and doesn’t account for why the same traits are yucky in one but not in the other.

]]> by: DeadMan http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/30/moist-damp-gooey-and-banned-on-television/#comment-463374 Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:05:09 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/30/moist-damp-gooey-and-banned-on-television/#comment-463374 it's been said before but i'll say it again ... My mom and dad are the reason that I can use the word vagina and not freak out ... just as a religious nut can teach their kids to hate teh horrible horrible gay a DECENT parent can teach their kids to be open minded and have respect for women in general. ... ... oh and having a feminist friend you're deathly afraid of helps too :P DeadMan it’s been said before but i’ll say it again … My mom and dad are the reason that I can use the word vagina and not freak out … just as a religious nut can teach their kids to hate teh horrible horrible gay a DECENT parent can teach their kids to be open minded and have respect for women in general. … … oh and having a feminist friend you’re deathly afraid of helps too :P

DeadMan

]]> by: hbsweet, empress of ice cream http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/30/moist-damp-gooey-and-banned-on-television/#comment-463281 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:39:03 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/30/moist-damp-gooey-and-banned-on-television/#comment-463281 There was a comedienne a few years back(can't remember her name), who had a bit about being invited to appear on Oprah, and the morning of the show, she used the complimentary hand lotion in her hotel room's bathroom, and then couldn't open the door. So she worked it into this funny routine, where she wished she could be MacGuyver: "He could probably make a bomb out of the hand lotion and a tampon, and blow his way out." When she ran the script by the show's producers, she was told she couldn't use the word "tampon" on the air. She pointed out that people constantly used the word "penis" on the show; "That's a medical term," was their answer. So she re-wrote the joke: "He could probably make a bomb out of the hand lotion and a penis."--and they let her use it. There was a comedienne a few years back(can’t remember her name), who had a bit about being invited to appear on Oprah, and the morning of the show, she used the complimentary hand lotion in her hotel room’s bathroom, and then couldn’t open the door. So she worked it into this funny routine, where she wished she could be MacGuyver: “He could probably make a bomb out of the hand lotion and a tampon, and blow his way out.” When she ran the script by the show’s producers, she was told she couldn’t use the word “tampon” on the air. She pointed out that people constantly used the word “penis” on the show; “That’s a medical term,” was their answer. So she re-wrote the joke: “He could probably make a bomb out of the hand lotion and a penis.”–and they let her use it.

]]> by: Isabel http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/30/moist-damp-gooey-and-banned-on-television/#comment-463276 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:04:25 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/30/moist-damp-gooey-and-banned-on-television/#comment-463276 <i>Ha. When it was my brother’s turn to fold the laundry, he used to pick up my mother’s and my clean underwear with his thumb and forefinger and fling it across the room at us. Then, he’d carry on folding the socks.</i> In your brother's defense, I still do that with my brothers clean underwear. It's UNDERWEAR belonging to my BROTHER! <i>And damn do I love me some Scrubs.</i> Word. Scrubs did definitely use the word vagina because Carla told Elliot that if she was going to be a doctor she couldn't keep referring to it as a bajingo. The best part was at the end: Elliott, struggling: You have a, a, p-penis. And... and I h-have a...... vagina. Elliott's matchingly-awkward boyfriend: That is SO hot. *commences making out* Ha. When it was my brother’s turn to fold the laundry, he used to pick up my mother’s and my clean underwear with his thumb and forefinger and fling it across the room at us. Then, he’d carry on folding the socks.

In your brother’s defense, I still do that with my brothers clean underwear. It’s UNDERWEAR belonging to my BROTHER!

And damn do I love me some Scrubs.

Word. Scrubs did definitely use the word vagina because Carla told Elliot that if she was going to be a doctor she couldn’t keep referring to it as a bajingo. The best part was at the end:

Elliott, struggling: You have a, a, p-penis. And… and I h-have a…… vagina.
Elliott’s matchingly-awkward boyfriend: That is SO hot. *commences making out*

]]> by: epistemology http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/30/moist-damp-gooey-and-banned-on-television/#comment-463248 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:58:25 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/30/moist-damp-gooey-and-banned-on-television/#comment-463248 Human: <blockquote><i>When it was my brother’s turn to fold the laundry, he used to pick up my mother’s and my clean underwear with his thumb and forefinger and fling it across the room at us.</i></blockquote> Well, I do most of the laundry around here. I might fondle Val's panties... OK, I sniffed them once just to see if they were clean. Honest. But now with Alison's underwear there, it has thrown water on the whole erotic laundry experience. Now I wait for Val to wear them. Human:

When it was my brother’s turn to fold the laundry, he used to pick up my mother’s and my clean underwear with his thumb and forefinger and fling it across the room at us.

Well, I do most of the laundry around here. I might fondle Val’s panties… OK, I sniffed them once just to see if they were clean. Honest. But now with Alison’s underwear there, it has thrown water on the whole erotic laundry experience. Now I wait for Val to wear them.

]]> by: epistemology http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/30/moist-damp-gooey-and-banned-on-television/#comment-463243 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:43:49 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/30/moist-damp-gooey-and-banned-on-television/#comment-463243 Spectrum Rider <blockquote><i>I also see many things that indicate to me that men’s bodies are also considered disgusting by other men... I see countless jokes that turn on the idea that men don’t want to see other men’s genitals.</i></blockquote> That is not disgust, that is homophobia. If you look at another man's genitals, you will either become gay, or your balls will ascend the inguinal canal and disappear, your penis will shrivel into a clitoris, and your scrotum will part like the Red Sea revealing a moist vagina. That's fear, not loathing. And further proof of the power of the penis. Spectrum Rider

I also see many things that indicate to me that men’s bodies are also considered disgusting by other men…
I see countless jokes that turn on the idea that men don’t want to see other men’s genitals.

That is not disgust, that is homophobia. If you look at another man’s genitals, you will either become gay, or your balls will ascend the inguinal canal and disappear, your penis will shrivel into a clitoris, and your scrotum will part like the Red Sea revealing a moist vagina.

That’s fear, not loathing. And further proof of the power of the penis.

]]> by: Dave Menendez http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/30/moist-damp-gooey-and-banned-on-television/#comment-463232 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:49:07 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/30/moist-damp-gooey-and-banned-on-television/#comment-463232 The lead singer from Tool has a side-project whose new album is apparently called "V is for Vagina". The DJ at the radio station I listen to on the drive home makes a big deal about how he's afraid he'd get in trouble if he said the name on-air. What's really a shame is that I'm not sure he's wrong. The lead singer from Tool has a side-project whose new album is apparently called “V is for Vagina”. The DJ at the radio station I listen to on the drive home makes a big deal about how he’s afraid he’d get in trouble if he said the name on-air.

What’s really a shame is that I’m not sure he’s wrong.

]]> by: Rob http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/30/moist-damp-gooey-and-banned-on-television/#comment-463212 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:44:27 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/30/moist-damp-gooey-and-banned-on-television/#comment-463212 First time I heard the word vajayjay was during a clip of Oprah shown on Talk Soup, last year sometime. I thought it was pretty stupid and annoying as hell. My ex-wife's mom and aunts used to refer to the vagina as their "deal" and penises as "things". Weird. First time I heard the word vajayjay was during a clip of Oprah shown on Talk Soup, last year sometime. I thought it was pretty stupid and annoying as hell. My ex-wife’s mom and aunts used to refer to the vagina as their “deal” and penises as “things”. Weird.

]]> by: Jill http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/30/moist-damp-gooey-and-banned-on-television/#comment-463211 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:41:03 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/30/moist-damp-gooey-and-banned-on-television/#comment-463211 I saw a gynecologist once who referred to my vagina as my "hoo hoo" and then asked me to go "pee pee" in a cup. On my way to go pee pee, I walked out the front door and straight to my car. I saw a gynecologist once who referred to my vagina as my “hoo hoo” and then asked me to go “pee pee” in a cup. On my way to go pee pee, I walked out the front door and straight to my car.

]]> by: avid http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/30/moist-damp-gooey-and-banned-on-television/#comment-463183 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:30:48 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/30/moist-damp-gooey-and-banned-on-television/#comment-463183 Jon, thank you for bringing up that Levitra ad. I have been waiting for someone to talk about its utter lack of subtly. Jon, thank you for bringing up that Levitra ad. I have been waiting for someone to talk about its utter lack of subtly.

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