Oh, yeah! I was eagerly awaiting the deranged reaction of James Hartline regarding the tragic, dangerous fires in Southern California. (See another diary at my pad with pictures of the firestorms.)
Hartline, a fundamentalist, recloseted gay man with AIDS (he contracted HIV from years of unsafe sex in bathhouses) today sees himself as battling dark forces in San Diego's “homosexual stronghold of Hillcrest,” says the fires are God's wrath on the Homosexual Agenda.
This isn't the first time he's erupted about God damning San Diego. Check out Is San Diego's Gay Community Experiencing God's Judgment - Violence, Disease & Death Overwhelming Local Gay Community. A snippet of his madness.They shook their fists at God and said, “We don't care what God says, we will issue our legal brief to support gay marriage in San Diego!” Then Mayor Jerry Sanders mocked the Christian vote and signed off on this rebellious legal document to support same-sex marriage.
And then the streets of La Jolla under the Mt. Soledad Cross began to cave in.
They shook their fists at God and said, “We don't care what the Bible says, We want the California school children indoctrinated into homosexuality!” And then Governor Schwarzenegger signed into law the heinous SB777 which bans the use of “mom” and “dad” in the text books and promotes homosexuality to all school children in California.
And then the wildfires of Southern California engulfed the land like a raging judgment against the radicalized anti-christian California rebels.
How low will we go?
Why won't they listen?
Why won't they stop their madness? The Bible says that in the last days, the nations will rebel against God until He can't take it anymore. Was it all worth it? Were the few years of sexual immorality worth the eternal destruction and earthly chaos it brought? How low will we go?
What you are about to read is the tale of an American community that threw away traditional norms. It is the story of an American homosexual stronghold in San Diego, California called Hillcrest. From daily attacks on Christianity to promoting pornography among young teenagers, Hillcrest's gay population has rejected all Biblical values which have been the driving force behind America's greatness. Gay sex clubs, pornographic book stores and social service centers promoting homosexuality now outnumber churches and schools in Hillcrest. You will almost never find a practitioner of homosexuality or lesbianism in the Hillcrest area who will criticize the sexual anarchy that has taken over this once conservative military neighborhood. The consequences for a community that has embraced a radical ideology of sexual anarchy and self-endulgence is beginning to become very clear. For the outside observer who looks into the heart and soul of Hillcrest, a fatalistic portrait of a neighborhood bent on self-extermination is being revealed.
For him to exploit the disaster of thousands being burned out of their homes in his state is just sick.
Also:
* James Hartline's steep slide into insanity
* Six Years In Sodom: From The Journal Of James Hartline
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Huh. Funny thing, then, Mr Hartline, that it isn’t Hillcrest that’s on fire.
Gotta love God’s aim, though. When He threw Katrina at New Orleans because of the upcoming Southern Decadence event, he missed the queers by a week and trashed the area with the most churches, leaving the predominantly gay area mostly untouched.
Now He’s torching the city that is home to one of the US’s major military forces, during a war He told the President personally that He was in favor of. (of course, the only reason we’re at war is because God took his sheltering hand off the US because of the gays, allowing the terrorists to attack - but again, missed the gay area of New York, too.)
Now he’s taking out San Diego, when San Francisco is such a more obvious target. Ah, gotta give the Big Guy credit for being a mystery.
And so on. Convenient how God’s agenda lines up so neatly with the wingnuts, eh?
Seems to me at least as valid an interpretation that God is punishing people for not treating their neighbors as themselves, despite all the progress He has arranged for gay equality. He’s punishing California because Schwarznegger vetoed the gay marriage bill that God worked so hard on, softening people’s hearts and all.
Nah.
These people always remind me of paleolithic cavemen trying to find answers for why winter happens. I mean, haven’t we moved beyond “The sky is falling”? And even if God is punishing people in a round-about way for their sins, isn’t the end of days what all these fundamentalists are shooting for? Aren’t they trying to hurry it along by supporting the Iraq war?
Hartline sure knows how to talk up a town, though. I’ve never been fond of SD, but if it is debauched as he says, I’d seriously consider moving there to raise my kids. Less danger of bigotry and bad sex ed that way.
God has some pretty lousy specificity. Harrumph.
These people always remind me of paleolithic cavemen trying to find answers for why winter happens.
They are working to prevent winter from ever coming again as we speak!
I’d have to say “yeah.”
Loving your neighbor is a great response to chaotic times.
God must be really pissed. That’s why the biggest fires are in the Congressional Districts of Darrell Issa and Duncan Hunter. The citizens have sinned by electing these people, and they must pay!
Hate to break it to y’all but Hartline’s right — God’s punishing us exactly like he punished Sodom and Gommorah … and for the same sins.
The problem is that Hartline is talking out of some non-oral oriface about what sins are involved. Are we hospitable to strangers? Do we lend money to our brothers and sisters without interest so that they may live with us? Do we let the land rest and let those who labor for us rest? Do we occassionally proclaim liberty to the land and its inhabitants? Do we redistribute our wealth to the poor? Do we uphold the cause of the orphan? Do we leave the gleanings and corners of our field for the less fortunate?
As a society, we do not. We have trampled on mother nature and now mother nature is responding. A perturbed system tries to reach equilibrium. We are perturbing the system — reaching equilibrium involves hitting us back.
Of course people like Hartline will never get this — they are what they claim we are: obsessed with sex to the exclusion of any morality.
We lived in Hillcrest for a year. Oh, it was so good. Except there was never any parking, because everyone was out being gay ALL THE TIME. It got to where we’d wake up gay in the morning, and go to bed gay at night — after having been gay all day long! It became difficult to hold down a job or remember to brush our teeth, and that’s when we moved to Claremont. More churches and schools, but fewer Cher remixes pounding in the streets.
I’m wondering where the parentheses in “once conservative military neighborhood” go. If you’re going to engage in fact-free hateful ramblings, you might as well use a (mostly) natural disaster as a peg. Otherwise you’d be inconsistent.
Pam, it’s hardly nice to pick on a man who is clearly mentally ill. Hartline reminds me a bit of my late grandfather, who was paranoid-schizophrenic. Or my friend’s mom, who also shows significant signs of paranoid personality disorder, if not schizophrenia. (Except Hartline is a lot more long-winded in his mad and long-winded ravings.) Poor guy needs to be hospitalized, or at least medicated, and it appears he is getting no help.
Besides, if the almighty is smiting the San Diego region, I’m thinking it’s because of the density of military installations there and not teh Gay?
At Hartline’s blog, my favorite passage came when some posters asked the perfectly logical question (also raised by several posters here) about why a gay-bashing God would burn mostly Republican areas while leaving gay districts alone, and he responded:
So all you have to do is not pretend to follow God, and you’ll get some breathing room. Ooooo-kay.goldfish, we were out while gay trying to get gay breakfast. We had to gay park 5 gay blocks away and gay walk to Hash House A Go Go for our gay pancakes and gay scrambles.
teac, Gay Pancakes would be a great band name.
WF
There was a whole town in Kansas wiped out by a tornado recently. I think it was called “Gaysburg,” so no wonder, huh?
;)
Yes, God is wreaking vengeance on San Diego. But why assume is because of LGBTs? As I recall, the Creationism Research Institute is located right in the path of the fires. Perhaps God has it out for Creationists? Perhaps God wants to illustrate the scientific principle of combustion to disbelievers of rational science?
Or perhaps — maybe — constant pollution of the environment has caused weather changes which have resulted in reduced rainfall and increase high-pressure zones causing a increase in the annual wind velocity. Combined together this creates the perfect conditions for fast spreading wildfires.
Naw — it’s got to be the fault of the sky father — Quick Burn the Witches!
Now he’s taking out San Diego, when San Francisco is such a more obvious target. Ah, gotta give the Big Guy credit for being a mystery.
Yeah, as a California resident, this always gets me. He’s trusting people to buy the stereotype of California=monolithic land of crazy liberals, but San Diego isn’t a particularly left-wing city; it’s mostly full of tech people, not radical gay activists or decadent Hollywood celebrities. Meanwhile, up here in Sin Francisco, we’re enjoying a balmy Indian summer with sunshine and 85 degree temperatures. (Incidentally, there is ALWAYS nice weather for the San Francisco Pride Parade, even if the rest of the summer is cold and overcast, as it often is. It’s been a running joke between my husband and me that Pride weather is proof God loves gays.)
San Diego’s a beautiful city, though, and it breaks my heart to see what the people in the area are going through.
And what’s this about banning the words “mom” and “dad” from California school textbooks?
Oh, it’s an anti-discrimination bill that happens to include discrimination based on gender and sexual identity. The “banning mentions of Real God-Fearing Families” thing is just something WorldNetDaily pulled out of its ass.
“James Hartline’s steep slide into insanity”
FYI, this link doesn’t work.
Up here, we’d say this guy doesn’t have both oars in the water and quietly tip-toe away from the loon…
goldfish, we were out while gay trying to get gay breakfast. We had to gay park 5 gay blocks away and gay walk to Hash House A Go Go for our gay pancakes and gay scrambles.
I’m not so much disturbed by the idea of a pancake having a sexual orientation as by the implication it hasa sex life to begin with…
Just think about pigs-in-a-blanket …
oh, never mind.
God needs to stop being so subtle. And also, if hell has massage therapists and good food, I’m willing to put up with the extra heat, so he’s going a bit easy on that front, too.
Pam…
I was gonna say that his creep may in fact be insane…
The cognitive decline and deficiency that goes with
AIDS (sometimes) action on mentation..
Then decided somebody’s surely beat me to it…
Anyway - not an excuse certainly an..etiology.
And this link doesn’t work.
‘Also:
* James Hartline’s steep slide into insanity’…
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mmm..gay pancakes.
are there gay waffles, too?
and I thought God was smiting San Deigo over all the Che Gueverra t-shirts I found and bought last August in Old Town. Or maybe it is because they had a Muslim-Catholic-Hindu wedding on the beach.
I love people like this always latch onto tragedies of infinitely-less-than-biblical proportions and call them “God’s Wrath.”
The fires /are/ tragic, but they have easily empirically verifiable causes and haven’t killed or destroyed whole populations (as cataclysms always do in the bible).
Or maybe God’s just gone soft.
are there gay waffles, too?
JoAsakura, I thought they all were, especially with blueberries in ‘em.
I want some gay pancakes! *missed lunch*
I still remember the political radio commercial in my area a couple years back, which accused the incumbent congressman of wanting to throw “a big fiesta for homosexuals and illegal immigrants.” I personally wanted to attend that fiesta, but sadly, as decent a congresscritter as he was, he never did throw it.
Hartline has a scary face. And a scary neck.
Also, I’ve never shaken my fist at God, but I did once shake my fist at the White House (I don’t think Bush was physically in it at the time, more’s the pity). I guess that explains the severe drought my home state is in.
Wow. The stupidity is as intense as the heat of a thousand wildfires. Here’s the thing that bugs me: why do people like Hartline always have to appeal to ignorance? Is there no way to make their point without appealing to ignorance? Southern California’s pattern of drought followed by fire followed by mudslides for thousands of years. That’s the way that climate works.
***are there gay waffles, too?
CREPES are teh gay.
are there gay waffles, too?
Sure there are. It’s what happens whenever a mainstream Democrat has to answer a question about gay marriage.
(ba-dump)
For some reason, brush fires have always largely spared Portland and Seattle. Is he saying those cities aren’t gay enough to incur God’s wrath?
And if this really is about being smited (smitten?), shouldn’t more people have died? When did the Old Testament God ever say, “And I shall ruin your leather sofas and render your swimming pools impossible to lounge in, and make you cough a lot, but that’s it”?
Bitter Scribe wins.
Wow, God sure is devious. First he makes our rain fall at historic lows, and then He makes sure that the Santa Ana winds show up on time and that they then blow down a power line that sets the brush on fire. Because, of course, power lines never blow down in high winds without God’s intervention.
I guess you have to plan ahead if you’re God, because otherwise people would look at all of that and see a logical series of events easily explained by natural phenomena. Now that I know it was God instead, I have to admire his organizational skills.
Meanwhile, God signifies his disapproval of gay marriage in Canada by cursing us with a dozen balanced federal budgets in a row and a soaring dollar. If that’s the Wrath of the Almighty, I can live with it.
Post hoc, ergo propter hoc
can’t be beat.
Note from a San Diegan: there are no fires in Hillcrest. There have been no fires in Hillcrest. There are no fires approaching Hillcrest. There are no fires ANYWHERE NEAR Hillcrest.
Maybe God has bad aim.
From the dictionary:
gay waffles (n.)
1. Nummy homosexual breakfast food with fruity topping.
2. Bisexuals.
(Disclaimer: I don’t actually think that bi folks are merely gay folks who are waffling. I think they’re bi.)
Orange, I’m glad to see you received your dictionary supplement to Teh Agenda. Not everyone has theirs yet.
One of the first structures to burn in the Malibu fire was a church. Apparently the Presbyterians really pissed off god as much as the homos did
For some reason, brush fires have always largely spared Portland and Seattle. Is he saying those cities aren’t gay enough to incur God’s wrath?
Well, he isn’t done teaching a lesson to the marginally faithful conservative Eastern parts of those states. That must be it …
(and I really can’t believe that I can joke about this! Wow, it took 35 years …)
NEWSFLASH! San Diego burning because of their homosexual tolerance!
In other news: San Francisco, strangely enough, still standing.
(I don’t think even God could bring himself to destroy Ghirardelli)
Another note from another San Diegan:
These fires have torched primarily the rural areas of the county. And also, there are about SIX OF THEM. This is just FOUR YEARS from the last time there was a huge set of multiple fires, dubbed “Firestorm 2003″ by the local media. And this set of fires, according to firefighters, is MUCH worse.
It has destroyed hundreds, going on over a thousand homes. It has destroyed farms, groves of avacado trees (a lucrative source of local income), and livestock. People’s LIVES have been DESTROYED, and the largest of these fires are, last time I checked, LESS THAN 30% CONTAINED.
And this fucker is going on about how it’s what, because we “let” a gay community exist? A SINGLE community in a county of millions? Even assuming there was something WRONG with being tolerant of sexual orientation, the fact that this man is using our tragedy to further his agenda of hate is INFURIATING.
And the most affected communities are the most conservative communities of the most conservative county of California.
Truly, logic does not prevail.
Ah, so chocolate really is the modern-day manna from heaven…may have to rethink my atheist views.
Maybe God disapproves of the real estate prices? Because there’s been plenty of property damage, but teh gays and teh gay-tolerant seem to be escaping harm. Out of 500,000 + people there would seem sure to be more gays than even people on the injured list so far.
I particularly love how “the nations” equates to “some US states” in his head. Not much of an internationalist, this guy.
DBK: why do people like Hartline always have to appeal to ignorance?
Playing to their strengths.
Apparently Jerry Falwell lives on in spirit.