I guess it depends on your meaning of the word “saved,” huh? It's all relative…“In 2000 you saved us from Al Gore. We're going to need you in 2008 to save us from Hillary Clinton.”
– former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani to 1,000 Florida Republicans at a golf resort near Disney World on Saturday.
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Also, Right Wing Watch has a lot of wrapup coverage of the Values Voter Summit, including this on-site report from the Saturday gala honoring Focus on the Anus founder Daddy Dobson, who made it clear he’s still willing to bolt and endorse a third party candidate and that anyone who is not for womb control or willing to back a federal ban on gays and lesbians marrying is not getting his vote. Dobson provided a boatload of unhinged quotes.
BUT, Dobson made clear that he wouldn’t budge from his pledge not to back Giuliani if he becomes the GOP nominee. (Perkins did the same at the afternoon press conference.)…On the issue of marriage, Dobson said it was “on the ropes” and in far more danger than people realized, in spite of the victories in 2004 and 2006. “Our families are in greater danger now than they ever have been,” he said, saying that the legislature in New Jersey now has the votes to create same-sex marriage. Dobson predicted that if New Jersey legislators vote for marriage and aren’t punished at the polls, elected officials will create same-sex marriage in a number of states, including Rhode Island, Connecticut, Washington, Oregon, and California. “You’re going to have same-sex marriage spread all across the country and establish families and it will be gone - marriage as we have known it will be gone.” Without mentioning Fred Thompson by name, Dobson rejected his “federalist” opposition to a federal constitutional amendment, insisting that marriage had to be defined in the U.S. Constitution. “Are we now going to throw [marriage] on the ash-heap of history?” he thundered. “I say NO! Do you agree?” Attendees leapt to their feet cheering.
Echoing themes from Huckabee’s remarks earlier in the day, Dobson took on those who say the movement should, if necessary to prevent Democratic wins, set aside its moral beliefs and principles because the consequences of losing in 2008 would be so great. The problem with voting for the lesser of two evils, he said, “is you have still chosen evil.”
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Wow. Dobson sounds just like Ralph Nader in 2000. Who’d have thunk it?
Hillary is the last Cylon.
Dobson is the last unicorn.
These pathetically stupid people still think they’re in charge of the “values” agenda in America…they don’t realize they never were, and that they were only being used by Bush and Cheney for their support in the last two election cycles…
They’re even more irrelevant now, but that doesn’t stop all the Republican candidates shuffling to them on bended knees.
The days when a small number of Right-Wing Christianist can influence national policy is over…even if they don’t know it.
Millions of us are sick to death of their delusional ideas that their beliefs can run all of our lives here in this free country…
And Dobson, God has taken your brother Falwell recently and he wants you to join him PRONTO!
Florida saved America? Maybe, but rather in the fasion that The Onion outlined.
You watch–if Giuliani gets it, Dobson will fall in line, because he knows that if he’s spoiler, and any Democrat wins, but especially if Hillary wins, he’s dogmeat for all time in the Republican party. Dobson likes power, and he’s trying to exert it now, but once the nominee is chosen, he’ll back him wholeheartedly.
No Petey, Hillary is the first Cylon!
I am a person happily in an opposite-sex marriage for over 40 years now, and as a Canadian I can say that the legalization of same-sex marriages in Canada a few years back has cause my marriage none of the predicted woe and doom. Opposite-sex marriage may well be having problems what with people “living together” but that is a totally different issue.
Gay marriage is an issue of accepting people as they are and giving them the same rights as everyone else.
If you are opposed to gay-marriage then don’t marry a gay person. It’s that simple.
To me, the best take on this is: It’s the donations, stupid! These people will do whatever they think will maximize the donations their shit-for-brains followers will send in. If a Dem wins next November, these sleazebags will be set up to fleece their flock like never before. I think they WANT to see Giuliani get the GOP nomination and lose to Hillary.
“…New York mayor Rudy Giuliani to 1,000 Florida Republicans…”
All named CHAD, right??
Probably, Louise…
There has been kind of a rash of nooses popping up lately; it wouldn’t surprise me if Rudy and Dobson are sending out waves of Hanging Chads….
“In 2000 you saved us from Al Gore. We’re going to need you in 2008 to save us from Hillary Clinton.”
This quote and his “Thank God Bush is our President!!” from the ‘04 RNC convention should be played over and over in commercials. Then the Dems would basically have it in the bag.
I’m probably gonna set myself for trouble, but all I could think of was that they would rather see “hanging Chads” than “swinging Chads”…with apologies to all Chads who swing out there.
These pathetically stupid people still think they’re in charge of the “values” agenda in America . . .
wagonjak - You want to bear in mind that these people call their agenda “values” or “family values” because they can’t call it by its right name–sticking their noses into everyone’s private life.
And it never, ever means anything else.
If these people were even remotely “pro-family” in the same sense that normal people are in favor of families, the candidates who came around to court them would be, for example, talking up their support of SCHIP, and how they’re going to fight for vastly increased support for veterans’ programs (instead of shifting the care to their families, which is what happens when–as now–you stiff vets), and how they’re going to fix whatever’s giving America such a craptacular infant mortality rate. (1)
Instead, the candidates have basically come to this disgusting assemblage to assure these genuinely evil people that they’ll be permitted to micromanage everyone else’s sex life.
They’re pretending it’s about paying homage to some poorly defined set of long-standing traditions, but it’s not poorly defined at all. I repeat: It’s almost never about anything else but attempting to gain control over the parts of other people’s lives that are none of their business. In particular, Dobson et al. want the right to tell you who to sleep with, and how, and when.
They can’t say that straight out because, one, it’s bad for their business, and two, when it comes to sex, these sick, crippled losers can’t say anything straight out. But that’s what they want–in fact, it’s what they feel entitled to: Telling you how to run that part of your life.
(1) Forgive the obvious-stating, but if the so-called “pro-life” camp actually gave a flying fuck about the lives of unborn babies, they’d be on the neonate mortality issue like white on rice.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21410289/
Did anyone happen to hear about this little gem?
“I’m MORE intolerant than YOU are!”
“No, I am!!!”
“Nu-huh!”
“Yuh-huh!”
Then from the moderator:
“YOU CANDIDATES PIPE DOWN- DON’T MAKE ME PULL THIS DEBATE OVER!!!”
Dobson may actually be doing Giuliani a favor by dissing him. I think voters, especially independents, are getting a little sick of the Dobsons of the world. About time, too.
I’m concerned — when Giuliani says “you saved us from Al Gore,” does he mean, “you voted for George Bush,” or “you thuggishly intimidated electoral workers doing the recounts in Dade County?” Perhaps both?
DO IT DOB.
I’m still trying to find a way that us liberals can encourage the third party run without them realizing that we’re the ones doing it. Because really, that would be like your birthday and Xmas rolled into one. For a full presidential term.
It really chaps my ass when these guys go on and on about marriage being somehow in danger. Evidence, please?
Obviously, he’s really talking about the “traditional” form of marriage, which is based on ownership and domination. In which case, yeah, good riddance, I hope it is heading for the ash heap of history.
But for those of us who doing our best to take the best elements of this old human ritual and apply it to a lifelong, committed, loving relationship between equal partners, this “threat to the institution of marriage” is laughable.
Speaking strictly for my own hetero self, my pro-marriage” views take this form: I love my wife, I love being married, it’s the best thing that’s ever happened to me, and therefore, damn it, I want that experience to be available for anyone who wants it. Pretty simple, really.
I guess Ghouliani thought he was talking to the Supreme Court, instead of Florida Republicans.
“Ghouliani”??
Uh-oh; soon you’ll start the same flap as with Petreaus/ “Betray Us”…
Gay marriage is such a big threat to the neo-con wingnuts because in their spare time they live out their twisted idea of gayness and they know how much fun it is.
I am recently married, to a man who has many gay friends and who has even “experimented” with them, and I feel not a bit threatened. Even if one of his friends did sweep him away, the issue wouldn’t be homosexuality, it’d be cheating. But of course cheating isn’t as big a problem for these wingnut men (as long as it’s them doing the cheating)…