The fallacy is of a specific form: “you are wrong because you are a Westboro apologist”.

“You are wrong and you are a Westboro apologist” is not a fallacy. It’s just mean.

You have the gall to call my argument fallacious even while tarring me - “a Wesboro Apologist,” you said - for hosting an entirely unrelated website? You should crack the dictionary and look up the word ‘hypocrite.’

Your arguments are fallacious and your pets are ugly.

People make religion what it is – not the other way around. If they couldn’t blame their odious activities on Christianity, the assholes of the world would find some other artificial structure by which to assert unearned authority.

Exactly. There is not much of a difference between a crusade, a jihad, and a Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution.

Christianity is a large and diverse religion. What is far more interesting than whether or not one is a Christian is the type of Christianity they choose to follow. Some types of Christianity are full of fear and anger. Their God is wrathful and vengeful. Other types of Christianity are loving, accepting, and tolerant.

People choose to follow the version that makes them most comfortable. Read a few right wing commentators, if you can do so without getting nauseous. These people are genuinely angry that their mainline denomination doesn’t hate as much as they do. Mike Adams joined a Southern Baptist Church because they really don’t like gays. (Methinks the lady doth protest too much.) Hugh Hewitt chose the mostly undiluted Calvinism of the Presbyterian Church in America (PCA) because the Catholic Church “issued reams of nonsense and met and met and met even as the liturgy collapsed into incoherence and the preaching dissolved into eight-minute homilies on the need for love.” (Emphasis mine) Ted Byfield believes that Americans go to church more than Canadians because Americans need God because American fight wars and Canadians don’t. The implied point of his article is that war is good for the faith, which creates a frightening military-industrial-theological complex.

As right-wing money makes this the public face of Christianity, no one should be surprised when people who reject this right-wing hate are rejecting Christianity.

I would suggest that you don’t understand the definition of the word “dogma”.

From ye olde American Heritage dictionary:

dog•mat•ic (dôg-māt’ĭk, dŏg-) Pronunciation Key
adj.

1. Relating to, characteristic of, or resulting from dogma.
2. Characterized by an authoritative, arrogant assertion of unproved or unprovable principles. See Synonyms at dictatorial.

Hunter’s comment – essentially, that religious beliefs are infantile regardless of why people hold them – fits that definition very well.

HUNTER:

name one good thing that has come from any theism - that couldn’t just as easily have come from an atheistic position, and I’ll eat my hat.

There’s nothing good that comes out of theism that can’t just as easily come from an ethical philosophy that doesn’t require belief a god. You won’t get any argument from me there.

“Anti-theist”? How about anti- “misogynistic, patriarchal, keep-the-masses-afraid-of-death”

Armchair evo-psych-spewing bullshit artists – those who argue that women are under-represented in management jobs because they have some mommy instinct or just aren’t hard-wired for command, etc. – are no less misogynistic than religious nuts.

Believers in ‘race-based’ intelligence, who argue that third-world countries shouldn’t get financial aid because blacks are too innately stupid to use that aid wisely, also claim scientific proof for their theories.

Proponents of eugenics believe, despite all evidence to the contrary, that evolution has a natural direction (from less complex to more etc.); and that our unwillingness to improve the stock through selective breeding is somehow an objective evil.

You and I agree that theism doesn’t produce any social benefits that cannot be attained through adherence to other philosophies, but you seem to think religion is a special kind of evil – a thing that creates social ills that wouldn’t otherwise exist.

I don’t think so. The sorts of people who would use fear and inequality as weapons of oppression would merely move on to some other philosophy if they didn’t have religion to kick around.

Them teaching theirs their belief is their business.

I disagree. No one has the right to victimize children. Indoctrination with damaging, demonstrable lies should be called child abuse.

Those home schoolers don’t get around much. They are trying to make money by blogging about their putrid little experiences, because they won’t leave their spawn and go get a job like normal women do

HATE in ALL it’s forms does not your point MAKE.

Bigotry is bigotry, recognize yours.

Nothing gives you the right to judge and jury those women. They are women remember? They can be taught wrong. Them teaching theirs their belief is their business. When it comes to misogynistic bullshit, you’re right up there with them.

Besides that fact, maybe because of them being MOTHERS, they couldn’t otherwise get a job. I know I can’t. I am labeled “stupid”….. By people like you with this sort of attitude, or belief.

I don’t care if you insult their religion, their way of teaching or even living their lives. BUT DON’T bring in their GENDER. It’s perpetuating everything feminists are fighting for!

and it’s certainly NOT feminist to do it.

Nor am I an atheist, convinced that religion or spirituality as such is evidence of brain damage.

I thought this was a strange statement. I’m an atheist, and I don’t think belief in a god is evidence of brain damage, any more than I think trust in capitalism is such. These people are just wrong, They aren’t, for the most part, mentally ill. Everybody is wrong about something.