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		<title>by: Mercurial Georgia</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/10/aging-gay-and-disrespected/#comment-458180</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:48:53 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>AHHHHHHHHHHH!  Most of the comments makes me...WINCE.

Homosexuality is natural, and whether it is just a genetic hiccup from running out of something or having too much of something after having many, many sons (the youngest ones are more likely to be gay), it is a good population control.   Homosexuals who can't naturally have children together, or chose not to somehow not find someway to (spermbank or friend willing to surrogate), fills a very needed niche in society; adoptive parents.

...or, singles willing to fill in the weekend slots so that parents can spend time with their kids.

They've done their part in life, and when old, they should be care for.


...and now for something positive;

New Book Shows Diversity Of Gay Families
by Doug Windsor 365Gay.com New York Bureau 

Posted: June 27, 2005  2:00 pm ET 
http://www.365gay.com/newscon05/06/062705tango.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>AHHHHHHHHHHH!  Most of the comments makes me&#8230;WINCE.</p>
	<p>Homosexuality is natural, and whether it is just a genetic hiccup from running out of something or having too much of something after having many, many sons (the youngest ones are more likely to be gay), it is a good population control.   Homosexuals who can&#8217;t naturally have children together, or chose not to somehow not find someway to (spermbank or friend willing to surrogate), fills a very needed niche in society; adoptive parents.</p>
	<p>&#8230;or, singles willing to fill in the weekend slots so that parents can spend time with their kids.</p>
	<p>They&#8217;ve done their part in life, and when old, they should be care for.</p>
	<p>&#8230;and now for something positive;</p>
	<p>New Book Shows Diversity Of Gay Families<br />
by Doug Windsor 365Gay.com New York Bureau </p>
	<p>Posted: June 27, 2005  2:00 pm ET<br />
<a href='http://www.365gay.com/newscon05/06/062705tango.htm' rel='nofollow'>http://www.365gay.com/newscon05/06/062705tango.htm</a>
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		<title>by: teac</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/10/aging-gay-and-disrespected/#comment-458084</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 02:27:17 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/10/aging-gay-and-disrespected/#comment-458084</guid>
					<description>&quot;Force the straight old people to hang out with gay old people [...] ?&quot;

Yes, actually.

In my partner's grandmother's facility, there are not enough tables in the dining room for anyone to sit alone. So what's the old gay lady to do? Stand in the corner and balance her tray on her walker as she eats? Eat dinner at tables where people verbally abuse her?

Or have the managers step in and tell the bigots to stop behaving like precious little 6-year-olds?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>&#8220;Force the straight old people to hang out with gay old people [&#8230;] ?&#8221;</p>
	<p>Yes, actually.</p>
	<p>In my partner&#8217;s grandmother&#8217;s facility, there are not enough tables in the dining room for anyone to sit alone. So what&#8217;s the old gay lady to do? Stand in the corner and balance her tray on her walker as she eats? Eat dinner at tables where people verbally abuse her?</p>
	<p>Or have the managers step in and tell the bigots to stop behaving like precious little 6-year-olds?
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		<title>by: Ray C.</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/10/aging-gay-and-disrespected/#comment-457916</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:20:35 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On the one hand, I should accept them for who they are — homosexuals. On the other hand, shouldn't they have to accept me for who I am — someone who doesn't want to be friends with homosexuals?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Dude, if you &quot;don't want to be friends with homosexuals,&quot; then you do not &quot;accept them for who they are.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>On the one hand, I should accept them for who they are — homosexuals. On the other hand, shouldn&#8217;t they have to accept me for who I am — someone who doesn&#8217;t want to be friends with homosexuals?</p></blockquote>
	<p>Dude, if you &#8220;don&#8217;t want to be friends with homosexuals,&#8221; then you do not &#8220;accept them for who they are.&#8221;
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		<title>by: Tom</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/10/aging-gay-and-disrespected/#comment-457886</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:11:03 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>To get back to the original article... old gay people in nursing homes are being ignored by the old straight people in the nursing home because they don't like gay people.  And the solution is...?  Force the straight old people to hang out with gay old people under threat of turning off their oxygen tanks?  Yes, it's sad that people are bigoted but I doubt that a bunch of 80 year olds are going to change their opinions on homosexuality.  And as far as I know, the law still allows people to decide who they want to be friends with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>To get back to the original article&#8230; old gay people in nursing homes are being ignored by the old straight people in the nursing home because they don&#8217;t like gay people.  And the solution is&#8230;?  Force the straight old people to hang out with gay old people under threat of turning off their oxygen tanks?  Yes, it&#8217;s sad that people are bigoted but I doubt that a bunch of 80 year olds are going to change their opinions on homosexuality.  And as far as I know, the law still allows people to decide who they want to be friends with.
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		<title>by: Colleen</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/10/aging-gay-and-disrespected/#comment-457878</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:54:55 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;RE-ENACT ANT-SODOMY LEGISLATION as it existed prior to WWII.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Although I must confess I'd never considered the issue before—possibly an unforgivable oversight on my part—now that it's been brought to my attention I can say I consider myself a strong proponent of the right of mature, consenting ants to participate in all the sodomy they want. Whatever gets their miniscule rocks off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>RE-ENACT ANT-SODOMY LEGISLATION as it existed prior to WWII.</p></blockquote>
	<p>Although I must confess I&#8217;d never considered the issue before—possibly an unforgivable oversight on my part—now that it&#8217;s been brought to my attention I can say I consider myself a strong proponent of the right of mature, consenting ants to participate in all the sodomy they want. Whatever gets their miniscule rocks off.
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		<title>by: bekitty</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/10/aging-gay-and-disrespected/#comment-457595</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 13:40:36 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;They don't join normally-adjusted, natural conduct society, but rather, join the deviant lifestyle community, and then whine when they find out it's not a rational or long-term solution to their problems.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wait, isn't that a description of Freeperland?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>They don&#8217;t join normally-adjusted, natural conduct society, but rather, join the deviant lifestyle community, and then whine when they find out it&#8217;s not a rational or long-term solution to their problems.</p></blockquote>
	<p>Wait, isn&#8217;t that a description of Freeperland?
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		<title>by: Peter, the Happy Pig</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/10/aging-gay-and-disrespected/#comment-457468</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:23:48 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/10/aging-gay-and-disrespected/#comment-457468</guid>
					<description>Regarding the &quot;dirty little secret&quot; -- there is in fact a difference between the gay and straight male experience of it among those who do play the stupid game.

That is that the straight men don't inevitably find themselves on the recieving end of it, hoist on their own petards. Straight men can on occasion play the game all their lives, since the &quot;only hot people are worth anything&quot; standard doesn't go both ways in the straight meat market.

Of  course, the underlying assumption of the moron who originally wrote it is that the entire &quot;gay male world&quot; operates that way, which completely overlooks all the guys who are trying to get marriage, adoption, inheritance, and health care rights for themselves and the partners they aren't trading in. (Of course, it goes without saying that the wimminz get left entirely out of his diatribe.)

It's really the &quot;dirty little secret&quot; of the meat-market singles scene, for both genders and all orientations. And of course, it's also as secret as, oh, gravity.

If it weren't so enraging, it would be amusing that almost all of the reasons anyone ever gives for allowing gay people to be supported in doing anything resembling having a stable, loving, responsible family and community life all  always come down to how shallow, irresponsible, and unstable the young gay male singles scene is.

Because, as has been pointed out, young straight men are such paragons of responsible behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Regarding the &#8220;dirty little secret&#8221; &#8212; there is in fact a difference between the gay and straight male experience of it among those who do play the stupid game.</p>
	<p>That is that the straight men don&#8217;t inevitably find themselves on the recieving end of it, hoist on their own petards. Straight men can on occasion play the game all their lives, since the &#8220;only hot people are worth anything&#8221; standard doesn&#8217;t go both ways in the straight meat market.</p>
	<p>Of  course, the underlying assumption of the moron who originally wrote it is that the entire &#8220;gay male world&#8221; operates that way, which completely overlooks all the guys who are trying to get marriage, adoption, inheritance, and health care rights for themselves and the partners they aren&#8217;t trading in. (Of course, it goes without saying that the wimminz get left entirely out of his diatribe.)</p>
	<p>It&#8217;s really the &#8220;dirty little secret&#8221; of the meat-market singles scene, for both genders and all orientations. And of course, it&#8217;s also as secret as, oh, gravity.</p>
	<p>If it weren&#8217;t so enraging, it would be amusing that almost all of the reasons anyone ever gives for allowing gay people to be supported in doing anything resembling having a stable, loving, responsible family and community life all  always come down to how shallow, irresponsible, and unstable the young gay male singles scene is.</p>
	<p>Because, as has been pointed out, young straight men are such paragons of responsible behavior.
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		<title>by: D. Sidhe</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/10/aging-gay-and-disrespected/#comment-457423</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:22:54 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/10/aging-gay-and-disrespected/#comment-457423</guid>
					<description>Actually, I translated &quot;intimate observer&quot; into &quot;My brother is gay and I haven't spoken to him in years, but I can imagine what he's up to, the filthy pervert.&quot;

Also, can we bully the republicans when we get to nursing homes? That's a lifestyle choice, too. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Actually, I translated &#8220;intimate observer&#8221; into &#8220;My brother is gay and I haven&#8217;t spoken to him in years, but I can imagine what he&#8217;s up to, the filthy pervert.&#8221;</p>
	<p>Also, can we bully the republicans when we get to nursing homes? That&#8217;s a lifestyle choice, too.
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		<title>by: ace</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/10/aging-gay-and-disrespected/#comment-457376</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:59:03 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Rumblelizard--It's more like 15 to 20, actually...ask Derbyshire Salad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Rumblelizard&#8211;It&#8217;s more like 15 to 20, actually&#8230;ask Derbyshire Salad.
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		<title>by: Sporkey</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/10/aging-gay-and-disrespected/#comment-457363</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:31:41 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The dirty little secret of the (male) gay world is that once you are past your prime physically, your street value declines very quickly. There is always a boy younger and hotter than you, ready to take your place, and gays are notorious for always wanting to “trade up”.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Any bets this person has been married more than once, &quot;trading up&quot; for the next model, or been victim of the same?  And really, how would one know this &lt;i&gt;intimately&lt;/i&gt;?  Is it that the boys at the gay bar he secrets to when he's &quot;working late&quot; are not going for him anymore and he's just bitter?  Just 'cause he can't get laid, old gay people should be ostracized at the nursing home?

I don't think there's anyway I can really wrap my head around this, even with everyone else's points.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I agree - and she is a very rare exception to the homosexual lifestyle…&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah, because if you had to admit most same sex families are boring and normal (or even heroic), then your head would explode.  &quot;Oh, I hate Teh Gays - except for My Heroic Lesbian Sister.  She's the only acceptable gay person.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>The dirty little secret of the (male) gay world is that once you are past your prime physically, your street value declines very quickly. There is always a boy younger and hotter than you, ready to take your place, and gays are notorious for always wanting to “trade up”.</p></blockquote>
	<p>Any bets this person has been married more than once, &#8220;trading up&#8221; for the next model, or been victim of the same?  And really, how would one know this <i>intimately</i>?  Is it that the boys at the gay bar he secrets to when he&#8217;s &#8220;working late&#8221; are not going for him anymore and he&#8217;s just bitter?  Just &#8216;cause he can&#8217;t get laid, old gay people should be ostracized at the nursing home?</p>
	<p>I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s anyway I can really wrap my head around this, even with everyone else&#8217;s points.</p>
	<blockquote><p>I agree - and she is a very rare exception to the homosexual lifestyle…</p></blockquote>
	<p>Yeah, because if you had to admit most same sex families are boring and normal (or even heroic), then your head would explode.  &#8220;Oh, I hate Teh Gays - except for My Heroic Lesbian Sister.  She&#8217;s the only acceptable gay person.&#8221;
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