Comments on: The country started going to hell when they told women they don’t have to just buckle immediately http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/08/6148/ Just another WordPress weblog Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:45:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: Andrew_S http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/08/6148/#comment-462726 Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:22:12 +0000 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/08/6148/#comment-462726 MikeEss~Thanks for the hubric test earlier, as I naievly took my shell of a brain on a sojourn through trolldom. I now believe I have an understanding of the unpallatable but ever present political eugenics program. It seems as a cursory conclusion I can safeley assign aMANda the title 'dysfunctional accolyte of political social engineering.' MikeEss~Thanks for the hubric test earlier, as I naievly took my shell of a brain on a sojourn through trolldom. I now believe I have an understanding of the unpallatable but ever present political eugenics program. It seems as a cursory conclusion I can safeley assign aMANda the title ‘dysfunctional accolyte of political social engineering.’

]]> by: MikeEss http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/08/6148/#comment-459173 Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:26:44 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/08/6148/#comment-459173 Benny, I'll say this for you. You've managed to make me greatly appreciate the depth and insights most other trolls bring to Pandagon. You've got a gift, Benster, and it would be a shame to waste it on us poor, dumb Pandagon readers. Please take your awesome talents and share them with the world! (as long as it's somewhere else)... Benny, I’ll say this for you. You’ve managed to make me greatly appreciate the depth and insights most other trolls bring to Pandagon.

You’ve got a gift, Benster, and it would be a shame to waste it on us poor, dumb Pandagon readers.

Please take your awesome talents and share them with the world! (as long as it’s somewhere else)…

]]> by: Benjamin http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/08/6148/#comment-459169 Wed, 17 Oct 2007 11:12:12 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/08/6148/#comment-459169 MikeEss, at least you have proven you are skilled at giving yourself, along with other men, fellatio. Keep up the good work. MikeEss, at least you have proven you are skilled at giving yourself, along with other men, fellatio. Keep up the good work.

]]> by: MikeEss http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/08/6148/#comment-459083 Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:54:40 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/08/6148/#comment-459083 Bernie, I've been a regular reader of Amanda's for the last 3-4 years. You come in and ask questions as if you just heard of Amanda Marcotte last week. Every blog has its own culture, and it's just good "etiquette" to learn (well) the culture of a blog you want to comment on before commenting... Bernie, I’ve been a regular reader of Amanda’s for the last 3-4 years. You come in and ask questions as if you just heard of Amanda Marcotte last week.

Every blog has its own culture, and it’s just good “etiquette” to learn (well) the culture of a blog you want to comment on before commenting…

]]> by: Bernie Misiura http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/08/6148/#comment-459080 Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:46:59 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/08/6148/#comment-459080 teac October 16, 2007 at 1:58 am My definition of decent and honest is not in direct proportion to anything you can possibly even imagine. Further, I do not agree with the assertion that Amanda’s etiquette is in fact in question. I merely stated that if you don’t like it, get out. You’re the one who thinks it’s in question, not me. But whatever. And seriously, who cares whether you, or any poster, uses a real name or a moniker? Doing so, or not, never goes to the validity of that person’s points. Insisting that is the threshold for making a valid argument merely indicates that you really are not arguing in good faith. [Side note - what the hell are you arguing? OOooo I used a bad word!] Amanda knows who I am, and as far as I’m concerned that’s all that matters vis a vis my identity here. You want a different moderation and debate style? Try Alas, a Blog. I guarantee you, though, whether you use your name there or not will have no bearing on your being castigated for arguing in bad faith and not supporting your assertions with reason, quotes, and links. Try it. So anyway, like I said, don’t let the door hit you in the ass. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Teac there is one way and only one way to look at decent and honest. Etiquette is also no negotiable it is what it is no more no less. I personally give more credit to those who do not use a moniker because by nature it adds credibility and states that you have the courage to stand by your position and take the kudos or the heat for those beliefs rather than safely hiding behind a moniker. I always argue in good faith and what I have just stated is testament. I have gone back before post 200 and have yet to find in one of your blogs with an outside citation as in a quote or link. You must practice what you preach if you wish others to follow. I did leave a citation asking what the women on this blog think about “ Bernie Misiura October 13, 2007 at 6:54 pm I am curious what you women have to say about this… “I’ll beat up Blake when I’m drunk…If he says one thing I don’t like then I’ll chin him.” singer/songwriter Amy Winehouse, speaking about her relationship with her new husband “ Folks here will not respond to quotes or links because they know that they have already lost, so when I stop using quotes or links because no one answers them then you respond and ask me to use them…go figure. That my dear is fact and an argument in good faith. I have even defended at least one of your positions again not that it was popular but it was the right thing to do. That should tell you something about the credibility of my character. teac
October 16, 2007 at 1:58 am

My definition of decent and honest is not in direct proportion to anything you can possibly even imagine.
Further, I do not agree with the assertion that Amanda’s etiquette is in fact in question. I merely stated that if you don’t like it, get out. You’re the one who thinks it’s in question, not me. But whatever.
And seriously, who cares whether you, or any poster, uses a real name or a moniker? Doing so, or not, never goes to the validity of that person’s points. Insisting that is the threshold for making a valid argument merely indicates that you really are not arguing in good faith. [Side note - what the hell are you arguing? OOooo I used a bad word!] Amanda knows who I am, and as far as I’m concerned that’s all that matters vis a vis my identity here.
You want a different moderation and debate style? Try Alas, a Blog. I guarantee you, though, whether you use your name there or not will have no bearing on your being castigated for arguing in bad faith and not supporting your assertions with reason, quotes, and links. Try it.
So anyway, like I said, don’t let the door hit you in the ass.

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Teac there is one way and only one way to look at decent and honest. Etiquette is also no negotiable it is what it is no more no less. I personally give more credit to those who do not use a moniker because by nature it adds credibility and states that you have the courage to stand by your position and take the kudos or the heat for those beliefs rather than safely hiding behind a moniker. I always argue in good faith and what I have just stated is testament. I have gone back before post 200 and have yet to find in one of your blogs with an outside citation as in a quote or link. You must practice what you preach if you wish others to follow.

I did leave a citation asking what the women on this blog think about “

Bernie Misiura
October 13, 2007 at 6:54 pm
I am curious what you women have to say about this…
“I’ll beat up Blake when I’m drunk…If he says one thing I don’t like then I’ll chin him.” singer/songwriter Amy Winehouse, speaking about her relationship with her new husband “

Folks here will not respond to quotes or links because they know that they have already lost, so when I stop using quotes or links because no one answers them then you respond and ask me to use them…go figure. That my dear is fact and an argument in good faith.

I have even defended at least one of your positions again not that it was popular but it was the right thing to do. That should tell you something about the credibility of my character.

]]> by: Bernie Misiura http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/08/6148/#comment-459063 Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:11:16 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/08/6148/#comment-459063 MikeEss October 14, 2007 at 12:01 am “As I said before and will say it again it is truly difficult to have a civil debate when people are attacked and not the issue or the subject matter as you have aptly demonstrated.” Bernie, when you phrase a question as “Do you hate men?”, instead of saying something like “Amanda, have you had problems with men in the past?” (which is still offensive, but not as blatantly nasty), what do you expect? You and “Norm”, and “Benjamin” come onto Amanda’s blog, created and paid for by Amanda Marcotte, without knowing her, her opinions, her point of view, or any of us regular commentors, etc., make asses of yourselves and are then shocked, SHOCKED!!! when people treat you like the plague. “Thank you for proving my point.” Whatever… ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I am not shocked. Another fine example of how others here try to insinuate what another here has said. True I do not know Amanda Marcotte probably any better than you do, but I certainly know her opinions and point of view because she has conspicuously posted them here, it does not take a genius to divine from her blogs. So in that respect you are sadly mistaken. I am different from Amanda, Ben and you in the fact that I maintain a level of decorum and etiquette that is fit for general audience consumption. Me offensive and nasty? Look at the language you use to address a person of a differing opinion. This clearly demonstrates a person with a weak argument and one who cannot develop a more appropriate counterpoint. My question again was legitimate, not offensive and necessary to establish a way of getting to know her and better understand where her thoughts. The only stupid question is one not asked. MikeEss
October 14, 2007 at 12:01 am
“As I said before and will say it again it is truly difficult to have a civil debate when people are attacked and not the issue or the subject matter as you have aptly demonstrated.”
Bernie, when you phrase a question as “Do you hate men?”, instead of saying something like “Amanda, have you had problems with men in the past?” (which is still offensive, but not as blatantly nasty), what do you expect?
You and “Norm”, and “Benjamin” come onto Amanda’s blog, created and paid for by Amanda Marcotte, without knowing her, her opinions, her point of view, or any of us regular commentors, etc., make asses of yourselves and are then shocked, SHOCKED!!! when people treat you like the plague.
“Thank you for proving my point.”
Whatever…
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I am not shocked. Another fine example of how others here try to insinuate what another here has said. True I do not know Amanda Marcotte probably any better than you do, but I certainly know her opinions and point of view because she has conspicuously posted them here, it does not take a genius to divine from her blogs. So in that respect you are sadly mistaken. I am different from Amanda, Ben and you in the fact that I maintain a level of decorum and etiquette that is fit for general audience consumption. Me offensive and nasty? Look at the language you use to address a person of a differing opinion. This clearly demonstrates a person with a weak argument and one who cannot develop a more appropriate counterpoint. My question again was legitimate, not offensive and necessary to establish a way of getting to know her and better understand where her thoughts. The only stupid question is one not asked.

]]> by: MikeEss http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/08/6148/#comment-458869 Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:20:43 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/08/6148/#comment-458869 <i>"You are such a liar and a user. You are delusional. You are worthless."</i> Finally this lovely comment of yours makes (some) sense: <i>"Sick is staring at <strike>Amanda’s (and her ilk’s)</strike> portly, hairy ass, choking back vomit while trying to imagine a better place to be before sticking an appendage into the landfill <strike>s</strike>he calls a <strike>vagina</strike>sphincter."</i> Benny, you're really talking to yourself about what you see in the mirror, aren't you? Your self-hatred is so huge, you're starting to make Norman Bates look normal. None of this is about Amanda Marcotte - it's all about the "life" you HAVE versus the life you think YOU DESERVE. It's about the reality of being a loser in life's lottery versus the winner you think you should have been. It's about realizing that your peak came and went when you were 11, and it's all been downhill ever since, and will be until the bitter end. People who talk to themselves, about themselves, should be locked up for our protection, as well as yours... “You are such a liar and a user. You are delusional. You are worthless.”

Finally this lovely comment of yours makes (some) sense:

“Sick is staring at Amanda’s (and her ilk’s) portly, hairy ass, choking back vomit while trying to imagine a better place to be before sticking an appendage into the landfill she calls a vaginasphincter.”

Benny, you’re really talking to yourself about what you see in the mirror, aren’t you? Your self-hatred is so huge, you’re starting to make Norman Bates look normal.

None of this is about Amanda Marcotte - it’s all about the “life” you HAVE versus the life you think YOU DESERVE. It’s about the reality of being a loser in life’s lottery versus the winner you think you should have been. It’s about realizing that your peak came and went when you were 11, and it’s all been downhill ever since, and will be until the bitter end.

People who talk to themselves, about themselves, should be locked up for our protection, as well as yours…

]]> by: MikeEss http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/08/6148/#comment-458857 Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:42:23 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/08/6148/#comment-458857 <i>Benjamin, I thought you were lower than whaleshit, if not worse! Why are you sponging off your mother to write comments no one will read on a popular feminist blog? Why aren’t you working and paying your bills? I thought you were “I am Benjamin, I have a penis, I'm a virgin, hear me roar!” (To be fair, I never really thought you were self sufficient.) Why do you need your mother to take care of you? What's the problem? You can’t be responsible, liable, accountable for your choices and decisions? You are such a liar and a user. You are delusional. You are worthless.</i> Benny's rantings needed a couple of corrections... Somewhere the underside of a bridge is very cold and lonely. Benny - fulfill your destiny... Benjamin, I thought you were lower than whaleshit, if not worse! Why are you sponging off your mother to write comments no one will read on a popular feminist blog? Why aren’t you working and paying your bills? I thought you were “I am Benjamin, I have a penis, I’m a virgin, hear me roar!” (To be fair, I never really thought you were self sufficient.) Why do you need your mother to take care of you? What’s the problem? You can’t be responsible, liable, accountable for your choices and decisions? You are such a liar and a user. You are delusional. You are worthless.

Benny’s rantings needed a couple of corrections…

Somewhere the underside of a bridge is very cold and lonely. Benny - fulfill your destiny…

]]> by: Benjamin http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/08/6148/#comment-458826 Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:27:18 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/08/6148/#comment-458826 Amanda, I thought you were at least equal to, if not better, than men! Why are you sponging off your boyfriend to write a book no one will ready? Why aren't you working and paying your bills? I thought you were "I am womyn, hear me roar!" I thought you were self sufficient. Why do you need a man to take care of you? Whats the problem? You can't be responsible, liable, accountable for your choices and decisions? You are such a liar and a user. You are delusional. You are worthless. Amanda, I thought you were at least equal to, if not better, than men! Why are you sponging off your boyfriend to write a book no one will ready? Why aren’t you working and paying your bills? I thought you were “I am womyn, hear me roar!” I thought you were self sufficient. Why do you need a man to take care of you? Whats the problem? You can’t be responsible, liable, accountable for your choices and decisions? You are such a liar and a user. You are delusional. You are worthless.

]]> by: teac http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/08/6148/#comment-458795 Tue, 16 Oct 2007 01:58:11 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/08/6148/#comment-458795 My definition of decent and honest is not in direct proportion to anything you can possibly even imagine. Further, I do not agree with the assertion that Amanda's etiquette is in fact in question. I merely stated that if you don't like it, get out. You're the one who thinks it's in question, not me. But whatever. And seriously, who cares whether you, or any poster, uses a real name or a moniker? Doing so, or not, never goes to the validity of that person's points. Insisting that is the threshold for making a valid argument merely indicates that you really are not arguing in good faith. [Side note - what the hell are you arguing? OOooo I used a bad word!] Amanda knows who I am, and as far as I'm concerned that's all that matters vis a vis my identity here. You want a different moderation and debate style? Try Alas, a Blog. I guarantee you, though, whether you use your name there or not will have no bearing on your being castigated for arguing in bad faith and not supporting your assertions with reason, quotes, and links. Try it. So anyway, like I said, don't let the door hit you in the ass. My definition of decent and honest is not in direct proportion to anything you can possibly even imagine.

Further, I do not agree with the assertion that Amanda’s etiquette is in fact in question. I merely stated that if you don’t like it, get out. You’re the one who thinks it’s in question, not me. But whatever.

And seriously, who cares whether you, or any poster, uses a real name or a moniker? Doing so, or not, never goes to the validity of that person’s points. Insisting that is the threshold for making a valid argument merely indicates that you really are not arguing in good faith. [Side note - what the hell are you arguing? OOooo I used a bad word!] Amanda knows who I am, and as far as I’m concerned that’s all that matters vis a vis my identity here.

You want a different moderation and debate style? Try Alas, a Blog. I guarantee you, though, whether you use your name there or not will have no bearing on your being castigated for arguing in bad faith and not supporting your assertions with reason, quotes, and links. Try it.

So anyway, like I said, don’t let the door hit you in the ass.

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