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	<title>Comments on: The Peter does research at Folsom Street Fair</title>
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		<title>by: Hunter S</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/02/the-peter-does-research-at-folsom-street-fair/#comment-456652</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:36:47 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>the open-air bare bottom spankings, fellatio, and anal play was absolutely fascinating this year.  It wasn't uncommon to see total strangers just walk up to each other and start wanking!  Gotta love San Fran.  The only complaint I had was too many kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>the open-air bare bottom spankings, fellatio, and anal play was absolutely fascinating this year.  It wasn&#8217;t uncommon to see total strangers just walk up to each other and start wanking!  Gotta love San Fran.  The only complaint I had was too many kids.
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		<title>by: bluevervain</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/02/the-peter-does-research-at-folsom-street-fair/#comment-455772</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:41:18 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>If only someone would write an article about what sick, bent, perverted people Christians are and how they should therefore be denied anything resembling equal rights with us &quot;normal&quot; folk, citing that spanking-your-wife-for-Jesus website as evidence.  

And then when Christians protest, they could adopt an innocently bewildered expression and reply: &quot;What do you mean, &lt;i&gt;all Christians aren't like that?&lt;/i&gt;&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>If only someone would write an article about what sick, bent, perverted people Christians are and how they should therefore be denied anything resembling equal rights with us &#8220;normal&#8221; folk, citing that spanking-your-wife-for-Jesus website as evidence.  </p>
	<p>And then when Christians protest, they could adopt an innocently bewildered expression and reply: &#8220;What do you mean, <i>all Christians aren&#8217;t like that?</i>&#8220;
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		<title>by: Hob</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/02/the-peter-does-research-at-folsom-street-fair/#comment-455538</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:17:58 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Chan (#5) - Welll... I'm sure Petey has a fine imagination, but he didn't actually make anything up in this case. It's not like you're gonna see all of those attractions every 20 feet (especially cause it's so freaking crowded) and it doesn't really have the kind of crazy party energy that Petey is trying to suggest (BDSMers are a lot more careful about physical &amp;amp; social boundaries than the Mardi Gras crowd) but... well. Come on down some time, it's not that expensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Chan (#5) - Welll&#8230; I&#8217;m sure Petey has a fine imagination, but he didn&#8217;t actually make anything up in this case. It&#8217;s not like you&#8217;re gonna see all of those attractions every 20 feet (especially cause it&#8217;s so freaking crowded) and it doesn&#8217;t really have the kind of crazy party energy that Petey is trying to suggest (BDSMers are a lot more careful about physical &amp; social boundaries than the Mardi Gras crowd) but&#8230; well. Come on down some time, it&#8217;s not that expensive.
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		<title>by: mythago</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/02/the-peter-does-research-at-folsom-street-fair/#comment-455385</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 10:55:36 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;My father-in-law explained to me that he’s got no objection to nice gay people leading nice middle-class lives, but what he objects to is Those Ones Who Have to Prance Around and Shove It in Our Faces.&lt;/i&gt;

&quot;Oh, you mean like straights do with Mardi Gras and Spring Break?&quot;

gordo got it in one. If you actually go to SF to see gay sex in public, you're going to be pretty disappointed unless you hit Folsom or find the right bar at the right time. What you &lt;i&gt;will&lt;/i&gt; see are same-sex couples holding hands, walking with their arms around one another, kissing goodbye, and generally behaving just like street couples--and nobody cares. *That's* what drives the fundies up the wall.

&lt;i&gt;It’s not like it’s being piped into your home on basic cable like the news or even religious programming.&lt;/i&gt;

I, for one, think we should complain to our cable providers about this shameful absence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>My father-in-law explained to me that he’s got no objection to nice gay people leading nice middle-class lives, but what he objects to is Those Ones Who Have to Prance Around and Shove It in Our Faces.</i></p>
	<p>&#8220;Oh, you mean like straights do with Mardi Gras and Spring Break?&#8221;</p>
	<p>gordo got it in one. If you actually go to SF to see gay sex in public, you&#8217;re going to be pretty disappointed unless you hit Folsom or find the right bar at the right time. What you <i>will</i> see are same-sex couples holding hands, walking with their arms around one another, kissing goodbye, and generally behaving just like street couples&#8211;and nobody cares. *That&#8217;s* what drives the fundies up the wall.</p>
	<p><i>It’s not like it’s being piped into your home on basic cable like the news or even religious programming.</i></p>
	<p>I, for one, think we should complain to our cable providers about this shameful absence.
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		<title>by: Nenya, Vala of Peanut-Butter Cookies</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/02/the-peter-does-research-at-folsom-street-fair/#comment-455330</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 05:11:54 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Exactly, Caroline--if you know the context, one word brings to mind the entire scripture verse and concept, just like any other form of jargon. But to anyone else, it just sounds totally random. Yep, definitely creepy.

IIRC, the &quot;mockers&quot; thing refers to people being particularly lustful in the end-of-days--ah, yes, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=Jud&amp;amp;chapter=1&amp;amp;version=NASB#17&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jude 1:17&lt;/a&gt; or thereabouts. In the King James, &quot;worldly-minded&quot; comes out as &quot;sensual&quot;, so one supposes that's where they get the connection to sex from. 

If public m/m leather sex really bothers you that much, you're perfectly free to go &quot;Ew!&quot; and then just try to pretend it doesn't exist. It's not like it's being piped into your home on basic cable like the news or even religious programming. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Exactly, Caroline&#8211;if you know the context, one word brings to mind the entire scripture verse and concept, just like any other form of jargon. But to anyone else, it just sounds totally random. Yep, definitely creepy.</p>
	<p>IIRC, the &#8220;mockers&#8221; thing refers to people being particularly lustful in the end-of-days&#8211;ah, yes, <a href="http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/tools/printer-friendly.pl?book=Jud&amp;chapter=1&amp;version=NASB#17" rel="nofollow">Jude 1:17</a> or thereabouts. In the King James, &#8220;worldly-minded&#8221; comes out as &#8220;sensual&#8221;, so one supposes that&#8217;s where they get the connection to sex from. </p>
	<p>If public m/m leather sex really bothers you that much, you&#8217;re perfectly free to go &#8220;Ew!&#8221; and then just try to pretend it doesn&#8217;t exist. It&#8217;s not like it&#8217;s being piped into your home on basic cable like the news or even religious programming.
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		<title>by: Caroline</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/02/the-peter-does-research-at-folsom-street-fair/#comment-455254</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:19:51 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>grendelkhan @ 11:  The &quot;mocker&quot; thing, like so much else, is an example of speaking in context-free Bible quotations.  Job and Proverbs refer to &quot;mockers,&quot; and Acts and Peter refer to &quot;scoffers.&quot;

It's really very creepy when you realize how much of what the fundamentalists say is strung-together Bible quotes.  It's a kind of code, one where every word or phrase is loaded with a whole complex of connotations.  The word &quot;scoffers&quot; implies the whole package of End Times, for example.

I just cannot get over the long, lingering, detailed descriptions of sexual activity that these &quot;reports&quot; always contain.  It's as Indy says.  I'm just not personally very interested in BDSM, so I don't devote much mental energy to thinking about other people engaging in it.  I'm glad people like Peter derive so much joy from recording and talking about every kinky, dirty detail.  Which of course they abhor.  And don't derive any secret excitement from at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>grendelkhan @ 11:  The &#8220;mocker&#8221; thing, like so much else, is an example of speaking in context-free Bible quotations.  Job and Proverbs refer to &#8220;mockers,&#8221; and Acts and Peter refer to &#8220;scoffers.&#8221;</p>
	<p>It&#8217;s really very creepy when you realize how much of what the fundamentalists say is strung-together Bible quotes.  It&#8217;s a kind of code, one where every word or phrase is loaded with a whole complex of connotations.  The word &#8220;scoffers&#8221; implies the whole package of End Times, for example.</p>
	<p>I just cannot get over the long, lingering, detailed descriptions of sexual activity that these &#8220;reports&#8221; always contain.  It&#8217;s as Indy says.  I&#8217;m just not personally very interested in BDSM, so I don&#8217;t devote much mental energy to thinking about other people engaging in it.  I&#8217;m glad people like Peter derive so much joy from recording and talking about every kinky, dirty detail.  Which of course they abhor.  And don&#8217;t derive any secret excitement from at all.
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		<title>by: seeker6079</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/02/the-peter-does-research-at-folsom-street-fair/#comment-455217</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:32:53 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I have a theory as to why the wingnuts hate the city so much. It’s not so much the homosexuality, but the tolerance and diversity. ... I think that this is what the wingnuts really fear: a society in which it’s considered quite normal to be who you are, rather than trying to conform...&lt;/blockquote&gt;DINGDINGDINGDING!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>I have a theory as to why the wingnuts hate the city so much. It’s not so much the homosexuality, but the tolerance and diversity. &#8230; I think that this is what the wingnuts really fear: a society in which it’s considered quite normal to be who you are, rather than trying to conform&#8230;</blockquote>
DINGDINGDINGDING!
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		<title>by: Indy</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/02/the-peter-does-research-at-folsom-street-fair/#comment-455213</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:23:06 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>You know,  since I'm not all that interested in gay sex or most of BDSM, i'm really glad I have deeply fixated people like Peter LaBarbara to go out there and tell me all about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>You know,  since I&#8217;m not all that interested in gay sex or most of BDSM, i&#8217;m really glad I have deeply fixated people like Peter LaBarbara to go out there and tell me all about it.
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		<title>by: rea</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/02/the-peter-does-research-at-folsom-street-fair/#comment-455196</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 19:54:38 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Novitiate&quot; Sister of Perpetual Indulgence &quot;Sister Bambi Dextrous&quot; wears a &quot;Bottom for Jesus&quot; shirt&lt;/i&gt;

Everyone knows that nuns are the Brides of Christ . . . </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>&#8220;Novitiate&#8221; Sister of Perpetual Indulgence &#8220;Sister Bambi Dextrous&#8221; wears a &#8220;Bottom for Jesus&#8221; shirt</i></p>
	<p>Everyone knows that nuns are the Brides of Christ . . .
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		<title>by: Kristen from MA, Mistress of Mushrooms</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/02/the-peter-does-research-at-folsom-street-fair/#comment-455190</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 19:21:29 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;Referring to the dominant and submissive positions in homosexual sodomy, he said he usually &quot;tops&quot; but that he “bottoms for Him” (Jesus).&lt;/i&gt;

awesome  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>Referring to the dominant and submissive positions in homosexual sodomy, he said he usually &#8220;tops&#8221; but that he “bottoms for Him” (Jesus).</i></p>
	<p>awesome  <img src='http://pandagon.blogsome.com/wp-images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />
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