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		<title>by: Arun</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/02/6120/#comment-465071</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 14:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071109/ap_on_re_us/airport_death

PHOENIX - A woman who died in police custody during an airport layover was intoxicated and accidentally strangled herself, an autopsy released Friday concludes. 

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The Maricopa County Medical Examiner's Office said Carol Anne Gotbaum, 45, of New York, was acutely intoxicated on alcohol and prescription drugs when she died in a police holding room at Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport on Sept. 28.
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	<p>PHOENIX - A woman who died in police custody during an airport layover was intoxicated and accidentally strangled herself, an autopsy released Friday concludes. </p>
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	<p>The Maricopa County Medical Examiner&#8217;s Office said Carol Anne Gotbaum, 45, of New York, was acutely intoxicated on alcohol and prescription drugs when she died in a police holding room at Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport on Sept. 28.
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		<title>by: Plantsmantx</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/02/6120/#comment-455534</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:14:59 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>This incident happened at Knight High School. It wasn't a middle school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>This incident happened at Knight High School. It wasn&#8217;t a middle school.
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		<title>by: Bitter Scribe</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/02/6120/#comment-455527</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:48:57 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm inclined to give police officers---&lt;i&gt;real &lt;/i&gt;ones---the benefit of the doubt (although much less so than I used to be). But that mindset sure as hell does not apply to these $12-an-hour losers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;m inclined to give police officers&#8212;<i>real </i>ones&#8212;the benefit of the doubt (although much less so than I used to be). But that mindset sure as hell does not apply to these $12-an-hour losers.
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		<title>by: ACG</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/02/6120/#comment-455523</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:39:59 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;ACG. Fun fact to take with you if you want to play with the Freepers: The mother worked for the same school district. But of course, they won’t let facts stand in the way of prejudice, so you might not want to bother.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Thanks for the tip, but I have no intention of engaging.  It turns into one of those wrestling-with-a-pig situations.  I just clicked through a link from the page that Ms. Kate linked to, read a few posts, threw up in my mouth, and left hastily.

Pam has all of the fortitude when it comes to picking through Freeper threads.  I find the stupid dizzying and disorienting and have to stop reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>ACG. Fun fact to take with you if you want to play with the Freepers: The mother worked for the same school district. But of course, they won’t let facts stand in the way of prejudice, so you might not want to bother.</p></blockquote>
	<p>Thanks for the tip, but I have no intention of engaging.  It turns into one of those wrestling-with-a-pig situations.  I just clicked through a link from the page that Ms. Kate linked to, read a few posts, threw up in my mouth, and left hastily.</p>
	<p>Pam has all of the fortitude when it comes to picking through Freeper threads.  I find the stupid dizzying and disorienting and have to stop reading.
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		<title>by: PhoenicianRomans</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/02/6120/#comment-455520</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:32:11 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;dude was a security guard, in a school, not a police officer in the streets. he is there to protect the children, not arrest them.&lt;/i&gt;

Nope.  He's paid by the school authorities; he's there to protect the school authorities.  Usually that involves protecting the children.

Which suggests the appropriate target for lawsuits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>dude was a security guard, in a school, not a police officer in the streets. he is there to protect the children, not arrest them.</i></p>
	<p>Nope.  He&#8217;s paid by the school authorities; he&#8217;s there to protect the school authorities.  Usually that involves protecting the children.</p>
	<p>Which suggests the appropriate target for lawsuits.
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		<title>by: odanu</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/02/6120/#comment-455519</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:30:34 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>ACG.  Fun fact to take with you if you want to play with the Freepers:  The mother worked for the same school district.  But of course, they won't let facts stand in the way of prejudice, so you might not want to bother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>ACG.  Fun fact to take with you if you want to play with the Freepers:  The mother worked for the same school district.  But of course, they won&#8217;t let facts stand in the way of prejudice, so you might not want to bother.
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		<title>by: ACG</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/02/6120/#comment-455517</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:24:57 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Ms. Kate, that Freeper thread is a pretty comforting one.

Of course, if your head spins with confusion as you read their responses, you'll be comforted to find them back in familiar form &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1903854/posts&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt;

Yes, the security guard was a decent young man!  The problem was the gang culture encroaching on the nice white community (thanks to the Clintons), and the mother came running up from her government housing (where she didn't have a job) to assault the principal.  Oh, and the girl's name is silly!  Ha, ha, ha!  Oh, those silly, funny-named, unemployed, gang-affiliated brown people!

Comfortingly reliable, yet still disgusting.  Thanks, Freepers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ms. Kate, that Freeper thread is a pretty comforting one.</p>
	<p>Of course, if your head spins with confusion as you read their responses, you&#8217;ll be comforted to find them back in familiar form <a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1903854/posts" rel="nofollow">here.</a></p>
	<p>Yes, the security guard was a decent young man!  The problem was the gang culture encroaching on the nice white community (thanks to the Clintons), and the mother came running up from her government housing (where she didn&#8217;t have a job) to assault the principal.  Oh, and the girl&#8217;s name is silly!  Ha, ha, ha!  Oh, those silly, funny-named, unemployed, gang-affiliated brown people!</p>
	<p>Comfortingly reliable, yet still disgusting.  Thanks, Freepers.
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		<title>by: Aeryl</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/02/6120/#comment-455495</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:37:36 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Odanu, 

Thanks for the help, but I think you read my sentence wrong.  It was a Level 1 trauma hospital, and it had an emergency psychiatric ward.  We(the security guards) were only called in after the staff was unsuccessful at calming the patient down, wherein we would be required to restrain the patient, remove them to their room, and apply four point restraints.  

But, still, no one was ever hurt(except the guards) in the course of these activities.    </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Odanu, </p>
	<p>Thanks for the help, but I think you read my sentence wrong.  It was a Level 1 trauma hospital, and it had an emergency psychiatric ward.  We(the security guards) were only called in after the staff was unsuccessful at calming the patient down, wherein we would be required to restrain the patient, remove them to their room, and apply four point restraints.  </p>
	<p>But, still, no one was ever hurt(except the guards) in the course of these activities.
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		<title>by: Mnemosyne</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/02/6120/#comment-455493</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:26:09 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;oh, and cookie, anyone who has worked in the level 1 trauma ward of a psychiatric hospital is by definition an expert in restraint because everyone in such a unit, no matter what their job, is expected to be able to de-escalate, prevent,, and respond appropriately to violence.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

My friend's husband was a psychiatric nurse who was getting burned out, in part because he's a reasonably big guy and the other nurses were relying on him to control patients rather than calling security like they should have.  One of the reasons he got out and went to cardiac ICU instead was that he screwed up his back trying to restrain a patient before he'd run through all of the steps of trying to calm the guy down.

Of course, he knew exactly who was to blame:  himself, for trying to shortcut and going straight to physical restraint when he would have had better results by talking more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>oh, and cookie, anyone who has worked in the level 1 trauma ward of a psychiatric hospital is by definition an expert in restraint because everyone in such a unit, no matter what their job, is expected to be able to de-escalate, prevent,, and respond appropriately to violence.</p></blockquote>
	<p>My friend&#8217;s husband was a psychiatric nurse who was getting burned out, in part because he&#8217;s a reasonably big guy and the other nurses were relying on him to control patients rather than calling security like they should have.  One of the reasons he got out and went to cardiac ICU instead was that he screwed up his back trying to restrain a patient before he&#8217;d run through all of the steps of trying to calm the guy down.</p>
	<p>Of course, he knew exactly who was to blame:  himself, for trying to shortcut and going straight to physical restraint when he would have had better results by talking more.
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		<title>by: Dreama</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/02/6120/#comment-455490</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:13:27 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>I've referred to elsewhere as a little girl not to infantilize but because she's small in stature and slim, and a young female. She's a little girl or little young woman in comparison to the big man who abused her, physically and psychologically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;ve referred to elsewhere as a little girl not to infantilize but because she&#8217;s small in stature and slim, and a young female. She&#8217;s a little girl or little young woman in comparison to the big man who abused her, physically and psychologically.
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