Comments on: Next they’ll be saying even women have a right to privacy or something http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/01/next-theyll-be-saying-even-women-have-a-right-to-privacy-or-something/ Just another WordPress weblog Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:10:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=1.5.1-alpha by: mythago http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/01/next-theyll-be-saying-even-women-have-a-right-to-privacy-or-something/#comment-455387 Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:07:26 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/01/next-theyll-be-saying-even-women-have-a-right-to-privacy-or-something/#comment-455387 sharon, where did PP lie to the Court? Actually misrepresenting the law to a Court is a serious ethical breach. If you are accusing Planned Parenthood's lawyers of being unethical and violating their oaths as officers of the court, I'd be interested in seeings something to back up those assertions. RICO is something that the courts have, of late, been reluctant to expand past its original intent of taking down criminal enterprises like the Mafia. sharon, where did PP lie to the Court? Actually misrepresenting the law to a Court is a serious ethical breach. If you are accusing Planned Parenthood’s lawyers of being unethical and violating their oaths as officers of the court, I’d be interested in seeings something to back up those assertions.

RICO is something that the courts have, of late, been reluctant to expand past its original intent of taking down criminal enterprises like the Mafia.

]]> by: sharon http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/01/next-theyll-be-saying-even-women-have-a-right-to-privacy-or-something/#comment-455307 Wed, 03 Oct 2007 00:51:32 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/01/next-theyll-be-saying-even-women-have-a-right-to-privacy-or-something/#comment-455307 <i>I’m sure the libel suit will also get thrown out—Planned Parenthood accused the Pro-Life Action League of running the protests in newspapers, pro-life groups sued saying, “No, they didn’t!”, but the league is actually bragging about it on their website. Seriously, it’s like me suing someone for calling me a feminist. </i> That's not what PLAL sued over. They sued because Planned Parenthood lied about their activities and lost <i>twice</i> before the Supreme Court. Basically, PP misrepresented the court cases by leaving out the important part: the Supreme Court determined there were no violations of RICO laws. I’m sure the libel suit will also get thrown out—Planned Parenthood accused the Pro-Life Action League of running the protests in newspapers, pro-life groups sued saying, “No, they didn’t!”, but the league is actually bragging about it on their website. Seriously, it’s like me suing someone for calling me a feminist.

That’s not what PLAL sued over. They sued because Planned Parenthood lied about their activities and lost twice before the Supreme Court. Basically, PP misrepresented the court cases by leaving out the important part: the Supreme Court determined there were no violations of RICO laws.

]]> by: Craig R. http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/01/next-theyll-be-saying-even-women-have-a-right-to-privacy-or-something/#comment-455289 Tue, 02 Oct 2007 23:41:54 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/01/next-theyll-be-saying-even-women-have-a-right-to-privacy-or-something/#comment-455289 "... Ald. Rick Lawrence, an outspoken critic of the clinic, said he believes the full City Council should have been given a chance to vote on the clinic..." I guess that certain members of the Aurora city council expect that their religious mania trumps the laws of the state and city. Why am I not surprised? “…
Ald. Rick Lawrence, an outspoken critic of the clinic, said he believes the full City Council should have been given a chance to vote on the clinic…”

I guess that certain members of the Aurora city council expect that their religious mania trumps the laws of the state and city.

Why am I not surprised?

]]> by: ahunt http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/01/next-theyll-be-saying-even-women-have-a-right-to-privacy-or-something/#comment-455203 Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:08:27 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/01/next-theyll-be-saying-even-women-have-a-right-to-privacy-or-something/#comment-455203 Caren...is there print media you can link to? Kneejerk...it occurs to me that Aurora politicians are having it two ways safely...solemnly and implicitly expressing regret that the PP health care facility is opening, while dodging the bullet on the public cost of losing a court fight. Chikenshits! Years ago, my semi-next door neighbor, wildly intelligent and politically apathetic remedial math tutor, Barb, predicted that there would be a pro-choice groundswell backlash from people like her and her significant other...professional people who just want to be left alone to smoke a coupla joints every now and then, and just live. These later days, Barb and SO are participating. And I am coming to believe they are an unrecognized force to be reckoned with. Caren…is there print media you can link to?

Kneejerk…it occurs to me that Aurora politicians are having it two ways safely…solemnly and implicitly expressing regret that the PP health care facility is opening, while dodging the bullet on the public cost of losing a court fight.

Chikenshits!

Years ago, my semi-next door neighbor, wildly intelligent and politically apathetic remedial math tutor, Barb, predicted that there would be a pro-choice groundswell backlash from people like her and her significant other…professional people who just want to be left alone to smoke a coupla joints every now and then, and just live.

These later days, Barb and SO are participating. And I am coming to believe they are an unrecognized force to be reckoned with.

]]> by: philosophizer http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/01/next-theyll-be-saying-even-women-have-a-right-to-privacy-or-something/#comment-455128 Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:07:13 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/01/next-theyll-be-saying-even-women-have-a-right-to-privacy-or-something/#comment-455128 on the subject of the libel suit - that almost happened at my school! my boyfriend was the editor in chief of the college paper. he ran an editorial about how the antiabortion group on campus had planned on bringing the Genocide Awareness Project (i refuse to link to such crap) to campus, but had decided against it. he commended them for making the mature choice, and the president of the club tried to get him fired and threatened to sue for libel. for talking about something that had actually taken place. fortunately, the president of the college was a former law school dean who knew his libel laws. he politely told her that she was an ignorant twit and that there was no chance she was going to get the editor fired, let alone expelled like her father wanted, and that if the pro-life lawyer group she contacted had any legal sense at all, they'd laugh in her face when she asked them to sue. on the subject of the libel suit - that almost happened at my school!
my boyfriend was the editor in chief of the college paper. he ran an editorial about how the antiabortion group on campus had planned on bringing the Genocide Awareness Project (i refuse to link to such crap) to campus, but had decided against it. he commended them for making the mature choice, and the president of the club tried to get him fired and threatened to sue for libel. for talking about something that had actually taken place.
fortunately, the president of the college was a former law school dean who knew his libel laws. he politely told her that she was an ignorant twit and that there was no chance she was going to get the editor fired, let alone expelled like her father wanted, and that if the pro-life lawyer group she contacted had any legal sense at all, they’d laugh in her face when she asked them to sue.

]]> by: Caren, Creator of Animorphic Pancakes http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/01/next-theyll-be-saying-even-women-have-a-right-to-privacy-or-something/#comment-455052 Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:56:46 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/01/next-theyll-be-saying-even-women-have-a-right-to-privacy-or-something/#comment-455052 I watched the Aurora politicians spinning this morning. They are very very serious while commenting, but making it perfectly clear that the zoning does not prohibit PP and that PP did nothing that comes close to violating any Aurora law. Nothing they can do about it! It's legal! Hands are tied! May not like it, but there's no choice they have to allow choice! I think they are speaking so sloooowly and seriously b/c they know the forced-pregnancy brigade has guns and bombs and are known to use them. The terrorists are promising more lawsuits. I watched the Aurora politicians spinning this morning. They are very very serious while commenting, but making it perfectly clear that the zoning does not prohibit PP and that PP did nothing that comes close to violating any Aurora law.

Nothing they can do about it! It’s legal! Hands are tied! May not like it, but there’s no choice they have to allow choice!

I think they are speaking so sloooowly and seriously b/c they know the forced-pregnancy brigade has guns and bombs and are known to use them.

The terrorists are promising more lawsuits.

]]> by: Amanda Marcotte http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/01/next-theyll-be-saying-even-women-have-a-right-to-privacy-or-something/#comment-455041 Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:32:20 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/01/next-theyll-be-saying-even-women-have-a-right-to-privacy-or-something/#comment-455041 <i>Yeah, but I just think the air is changing, for all kinds of reasons. </i> The anti-choicers definitely think so. All these escalatingly threatening manuevers aren't happening in a vacuum. I suspect that a lot of anti-choicers see the strong possibility that we're going to have a Democratic congress and President soon, and when that happens, one law after another protecting choice from their "chip away at the court level" strategy. Yeah, but I just think the air is changing, for all kinds of reasons.

The anti-choicers definitely think so. All these escalatingly threatening manuevers aren’t happening in a vacuum. I suspect that a lot of anti-choicers see the strong possibility that we’re going to have a Democratic congress and President soon, and when that happens, one law after another protecting choice from their “chip away at the court level” strategy.

]]> by: mythago http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/01/next-theyll-be-saying-even-women-have-a-right-to-privacy-or-something/#comment-455039 Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:26:47 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/01/next-theyll-be-saying-even-women-have-a-right-to-privacy-or-something/#comment-455039 I eagerly await the Overlawyered conserva-crowd scolding the Aurora protesters for filing frivolous, harassing lawsuits. *crickets* I eagerly await the Overlawyered conserva-crowd scolding the Aurora protesters for filing frivolous, harassing lawsuits.

*crickets*

]]> by: holly. r. http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/01/next-theyll-be-saying-even-women-have-a-right-to-privacy-or-something/#comment-455032 Tue, 02 Oct 2007 08:52:34 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/01/next-theyll-be-saying-even-women-have-a-right-to-privacy-or-something/#comment-455032 Personally, I enjoy being a "nuisance" with Planned Parenthood Kansas-Missouri, any chance I can get. You know, like protesting on the plaza in Kansas City? Good times, good times. Oh, and all of those other little "nuisance"-type activities I do as a volunteer for them. Oh, and those income-scaled exams. Sooo evil. Personally, I enjoy being a “nuisance” with Planned Parenthood Kansas-Missouri, any chance I can get. You know, like protesting on the plaza in Kansas City? Good times, good times.

Oh, and all of those other little “nuisance”-type activities I do as a volunteer for them.

Oh, and those income-scaled exams. Sooo evil.

]]> by: Jovan1984 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/01/next-theyll-be-saying-even-women-have-a-right-to-privacy-or-something/#comment-454935 Mon, 01 Oct 2007 22:46:57 +0100 http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/01/next-theyll-be-saying-even-women-have-a-right-to-privacy-or-something/#comment-454935 Expansion of RICO??? So that the activist SCOTUS can overturn it again??? We need re-introduce RICO as a constitutional amendment, so that no court can overturn it. Expansion of RICO??? So that the activist SCOTUS can overturn it again??? We need re-introduce RICO as a constitutional amendment, so that no court can overturn it.

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