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		<title>by: Monika</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/09/18/video-on-domestic-violence/#comment-484518</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Why don't women leave?

Perhaps the best article I have read on this is as follows: http://www.justicewomen.com/cj_whydoesntsheleave.html 

&quot;Women often don't leave domestic violence because they know that when they do leave the danger of more severe violence increases dramatically. Violence, and the sheer terror of it, is one of the principle reasons women don't leave. And the women are right!

Fact: When domestic violence victims attempt to leave the relationship, the stalking and violence almost always escalates sharply as the perpetrator attempts to regain control.

Fact: The majority of domestic violence homicides occur as a woman attempts to leave or after she has left.

Fact: The most serious domestic violence injuries are perpetrated against women who have separated from the perpetrator.

The women know these dangers. They know them because they've already experienced the violent responses when they've attempted to assert themselves, even minimally, within the relationship. They know because the perpetrators have usually threatened precisely what they intend to if she does try to leave.&quot;

*****

This woman did what she had to, to survive. She is amazing. As are all the other battered women out there doing what they need to, to survive. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Why don&#8217;t women leave?</p>
	<p>Perhaps the best article I have read on this is as follows: <a href='http://www.justicewomen.com/cj_whydoesntsheleave.html' rel='nofollow'>http://www.justicewomen.com/cj_whydoesntsheleave.html</a> </p>
	<p>&#8220;Women often don&#8217;t leave domestic violence because they know that when they do leave the danger of more severe violence increases dramatically. Violence, and the sheer terror of it, is one of the principle reasons women don&#8217;t leave. And the women are right!</p>
	<p>Fact: When domestic violence victims attempt to leave the relationship, the stalking and violence almost always escalates sharply as the perpetrator attempts to regain control.</p>
	<p>Fact: The majority of domestic violence homicides occur as a woman attempts to leave or after she has left.</p>
	<p>Fact: The most serious domestic violence injuries are perpetrated against women who have separated from the perpetrator.</p>
	<p>The women know these dangers. They know them because they&#8217;ve already experienced the violent responses when they&#8217;ve attempted to assert themselves, even minimally, within the relationship. They know because the perpetrators have usually threatened precisely what they intend to if she does try to leave.&#8221;</p>
	<p>*****</p>
	<p>This woman did what she had to, to survive. She is amazing. As are all the other battered women out there doing what they need to, to survive.
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		<title>by: Monika</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/09/18/video-on-domestic-violence/#comment-484517</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/09/18/video-on-domestic-violence/#comment-484517</guid>
					<description>Why don't women leave?

Perhaps the best article I have read on this is as follows: http://www.justicewomen.com/cj_whydoesntsheleave.html 

&quot;Women often don't leave domestic violence because they know that when they do leave the danger of more severe violence increases dramatically. Violence, and the sheer terror of it, is one of the principle reasons women don't leave. And the women are right!

Fact: When domestic violence victims attempt to leave the relationship, the stalking and violence almost always escalates sharply as the perpetrator attempts to regain control.

Fact: The majority of domestic violence homicides occur as a woman attempts to leave or after she has left.

Fact: The most serious domestic violence injuries are perpetrated against women who have separated from the perpetrator.

The women know these dangers. They know them because they've already experienced the violent responses when they've attempted to assert themselves, even minimally, within the relationship. They know because the perpetrators have usually threatened precisely what they intend to if she does try to leave.&quot;

*****

This woman did what she had to, to survive. She is amazing. As are all the other battered women out there doing what they need to, to survive. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Why don&#8217;t women leave?</p>
	<p>Perhaps the best article I have read on this is as follows: <a href='http://www.justicewomen.com/cj_whydoesntsheleave.html' rel='nofollow'>http://www.justicewomen.com/cj_whydoesntsheleave.html</a> </p>
	<p>&#8220;Women often don&#8217;t leave domestic violence because they know that when they do leave the danger of more severe violence increases dramatically. Violence, and the sheer terror of it, is one of the principle reasons women don&#8217;t leave. And the women are right!</p>
	<p>Fact: When domestic violence victims attempt to leave the relationship, the stalking and violence almost always escalates sharply as the perpetrator attempts to regain control.</p>
	<p>Fact: The majority of domestic violence homicides occur as a woman attempts to leave or after she has left.</p>
	<p>Fact: The most serious domestic violence injuries are perpetrated against women who have separated from the perpetrator.</p>
	<p>The women know these dangers. They know them because they&#8217;ve already experienced the violent responses when they&#8217;ve attempted to assert themselves, even minimally, within the relationship. They know because the perpetrators have usually threatened precisely what they intend to if she does try to leave.&#8221;</p>
	<p>*****</p>
	<p>This woman did what she had to, to survive. She is amazing. As are all the other battered women out there doing what they need to, to survive.
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		<title>by: Steven Bishop</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/09/18/video-on-domestic-violence/#comment-459593</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:06:25 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/09/18/video-on-domestic-violence/#comment-459593</guid>
					<description>KevInMcA 10 7: THAT'S A BEATIN
Steven6777: Finally
Steven6777: She looks like Sarah Jessica Parker
KevInMcA 10 7: lol
Steven6777: Bullshit
Steven6777: If she had it her way that guy would have been ruined
Steven6777: So
Steven6777: They should have let the kids talk
KevInMcA 10 7: ya
Steven6777: OMG
Steven6777: He said if she didn't bring his son home he'd kill her!
Steven6777: OMG
Steven6777: SEND HIM 36 YEARS
Steven6777: Fat old man crybaby says he can't get over it
KevInMcA 10 7: lol
Steven6777: Big strong black man scares him
Steven6777: 36 YEARS FOR HIM
Steven6777: He said she didn't give a shit about her kids
Steven6777: Wtf
Steven6777: Let's go back to the start
Steven6777: Why did he begin hitting her then
KevInMcA 10 7: Yeah she deserved to be beaten to the floor
Steven6777: Yeah!
Steven6777: If she had it her way the kids would have been taken from the guy
KevInMcA 10 7: The first time was because she didn't bring him what he wanted from the grocery store
Steven6777: She was probably being a bitch
Steven6777: You know how girls don't tell whole truth stories
Steven6777: It's just &quot;oh pity me&quot; and all this bad stuff happened to me
Steven6777: I bet she was being a shit right from the get go
Steven6777: She goes to the News Reporters and tells all this shit
Steven6777: I bet if the guy had an interview it'd be 100% truth
Steven6777: But they don't show that
KevInMcA 10 7: That is a good point
Steven6777: Kids are smart, they know their dad is right
KevInMcA 10 7: The guy should have gotten to speak
Steven6777: Their dad looked and cared for them
KevInMcA 10 7: Of course it's not okay to beat people ever
Steven6777: I know
Steven6777: Maybe he was fed up with her
Steven6777: She could have left him but didn't
Steven6777: And he's being trapped as her being a shitty wife
Steven6777: He tried to convince his kids that his wife was being shit too
Steven6777: All they had on that interview was a bunch of angry feminazi's and a aging old crybaby fatass who has nightmares about niggers beaten him because he's a crybaby
Steven6777: OHMYGOD
Steven6777: If you wanted control of a household but you had a wife like her who doesn't spend time with her kids and runs off with crappy friends what would you do
KevInMcA 10 7: omfg
KevInMcA 10 7: Well it's never good to beat your spouse
Steven6777: Even if he divorced her he'd lose his kids and he probably wouldn't want that
Steven6777: I know
KevInMcA 10 7: You need practical solutions
KevInMcA 10 7: Divorce
Steven6777: Yeah but life ain't about divorcing
Steven6777: Alot of wives are pretty shitty nowadays
KevInMcA 10 7: Yeah
Steven6777: She says she was desperate trying to save whatever she could salvage
Steven6777: See
Steven6777: She had the idea that she &quot;has kids&quot; but never wanted to &quot;be  with her kids&quot;
Steven6777: Just the thought of having them
Steven6777: She don't know jack shit about what she's talking about
KevInMcA 10 7: Yeah
Steven6777: I know why that guy beat the shit out of her
Steven6777: What a cunt
Steven6777: She's saying that she's desperately trying to do whatever her husband says but she wasn't even doing that lol
Steven6777: This video is turdmunchers
Steven6777: Fuck
Steven6777: This video is bullshit
Steven6777: What if she decided to stop being a fucktard all innocent-like
Steven6777: The reason he beat her is because she doesn't stand up for anything
Steven6777: Inside, she couldn't give a shit...
Steven6777: That's why she never cried real tears because she knew the truth
Steven6777: It's all that simple really...
Steven6777: She don't even look at the fucking camera in any of her pictures
KevInMcA 10 7: I wish I could understand things from your perspective
Steven6777: She says he got obsessive over his control
Steven6777: Like he just got more controlling and beat her
Steven6777: No bitch.
Steven6777: He kept getting sick and tired of your stupidity.
Steven6777: And it got worse.
Steven6777: He never wanted other men in the house because he didn't trust his wife and alot of other men are fucks.
KevInMcA 10 7: Yeah
Steven6777: See when you have children, a wife, and a home, you have to take control and know all this shit. His wife was just a stupid shit.
KevInMcA 10 7: How old are you again?
Steven6777: 19
KevInMcA 10 7:  Doesn't have anything to do with the topic, just forgot
Steven6777: Haha
Steven6777: Notice how in the video it just shows him saying and talking offensively to her but it don't show what she says beforehand
Steven6777: Because all she talks is bullshit
KevInMcA 10 7: Yeah
Steven6777: OMFG
Steven6777: SO FUNNY
Steven6777: The abused says &quot;He said don't look at him like you're interested in what he's doing&quot; and she said &quot;I think I am interested in what he's doing&quot;
Steven6777: THAT'S A FUCKING LIE
Steven6777: LIE
Steven6777: The man said that to prove a point
KevInMcA 10 7: yeah
Steven6777: DUDE
Steven6777: THIS VIDEO IS BULLSHIT
KevInMcA 10 7: I knoww</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>KevInMcA 10 7: THAT&#8217;S A BEATIN<br />
Steven6777: Finally<br />
Steven6777: She looks like Sarah Jessica Parker<br />
KevInMcA 10 7: lol<br />
Steven6777: Bullshit<br />
Steven6777: If she had it her way that guy would have been ruined<br />
Steven6777: So<br />
Steven6777: They should have let the kids talk<br />
KevInMcA 10 7: ya<br />
Steven6777: OMG<br />
Steven6777: He said if she didn&#8217;t bring his son home he&#8217;d kill her!<br />
Steven6777: OMG<br />
Steven6777: SEND HIM 36 YEARS<br />
Steven6777: Fat old man crybaby says he can&#8217;t get over it<br />
KevInMcA 10 7: lol<br />
Steven6777: Big strong black man scares him<br />
Steven6777: 36 YEARS FOR HIM<br />
Steven6777: He said she didn&#8217;t give a shit about her kids<br />
Steven6777: Wtf<br />
Steven6777: Let&#8217;s go back to the start<br />
Steven6777: Why did he begin hitting her then<br />
KevInMcA 10 7: Yeah she deserved to be beaten to the floor<br />
Steven6777: Yeah!<br />
Steven6777: If she had it her way the kids would have been taken from the guy<br />
KevInMcA 10 7: The first time was because she didn&#8217;t bring him what he wanted from the grocery store<br />
Steven6777: She was probably being a bitch<br />
Steven6777: You know how girls don&#8217;t tell whole truth stories<br />
Steven6777: It&#8217;s just &#8220;oh pity me&#8221; and all this bad stuff happened to me<br />
Steven6777: I bet she was being a shit right from the get go<br />
Steven6777: She goes to the News Reporters and tells all this shit<br />
Steven6777: I bet if the guy had an interview it&#8217;d be 100% truth<br />
Steven6777: But they don&#8217;t show that<br />
KevInMcA 10 7: That is a good point<br />
Steven6777: Kids are smart, they know their dad is right<br />
KevInMcA 10 7: The guy should have gotten to speak<br />
Steven6777: Their dad looked and cared for them<br />
KevInMcA 10 7: Of course it&#8217;s not okay to beat people ever<br />
Steven6777: I know<br />
Steven6777: Maybe he was fed up with her<br />
Steven6777: She could have left him but didn&#8217;t<br />
Steven6777: And he&#8217;s being trapped as her being a shitty wife<br />
Steven6777: He tried to convince his kids that his wife was being shit too<br />
Steven6777: All they had on that interview was a bunch of angry feminazi&#8217;s and a aging old crybaby fatass who has nightmares about niggers beaten him because he&#8217;s a crybaby<br />
Steven6777: OHMYGOD<br />
Steven6777: If you wanted control of a household but you had a wife like her who doesn&#8217;t spend time with her kids and runs off with crappy friends what would you do<br />
KevInMcA 10 7: omfg<br />
KevInMcA 10 7: Well it&#8217;s never good to beat your spouse<br />
Steven6777: Even if he divorced her he&#8217;d lose his kids and he probably wouldn&#8217;t want that<br />
Steven6777: I know<br />
KevInMcA 10 7: You need practical solutions<br />
KevInMcA 10 7: Divorce<br />
Steven6777: Yeah but life ain&#8217;t about divorcing<br />
Steven6777: Alot of wives are pretty shitty nowadays<br />
KevInMcA 10 7: Yeah<br />
Steven6777: She says she was desperate trying to save whatever she could salvage<br />
Steven6777: See<br />
Steven6777: She had the idea that she &#8220;has kids&#8221; but never wanted to &#8220;be  with her kids&#8221;<br />
Steven6777: Just the thought of having them<br />
Steven6777: She don&#8217;t know jack shit about what she&#8217;s talking about<br />
KevInMcA 10 7: Yeah<br />
Steven6777: I know why that guy beat the shit out of her<br />
Steven6777: What a cunt<br />
Steven6777: She&#8217;s saying that she&#8217;s desperately trying to do whatever her husband says but she wasn&#8217;t even doing that lol<br />
Steven6777: This video is turdmunchers<br />
Steven6777: Fuck<br />
Steven6777: This video is bullshit<br />
Steven6777: What if she decided to stop being a fucktard all innocent-like<br />
Steven6777: The reason he beat her is because she doesn&#8217;t stand up for anything<br />
Steven6777: Inside, she couldn&#8217;t give a shit&#8230;<br />
Steven6777: That&#8217;s why she never cried real tears because she knew the truth<br />
Steven6777: It&#8217;s all that simple really&#8230;<br />
Steven6777: She don&#8217;t even look at the fucking camera in any of her pictures<br />
KevInMcA 10 7: I wish I could understand things from your perspective<br />
Steven6777: She says he got obsessive over his control<br />
Steven6777: Like he just got more controlling and beat her<br />
Steven6777: No bitch.<br />
Steven6777: He kept getting sick and tired of your stupidity.<br />
Steven6777: And it got worse.<br />
Steven6777: He never wanted other men in the house because he didn&#8217;t trust his wife and alot of other men are fucks.<br />
KevInMcA 10 7: Yeah<br />
Steven6777: See when you have children, a wife, and a home, you have to take control and know all this shit. His wife was just a stupid shit.<br />
KevInMcA 10 7: How old are you again?<br />
Steven6777: 19<br />
KevInMcA 10 7:  Doesn&#8217;t have anything to do with the topic, just forgot<br />
Steven6777: Haha<br />
Steven6777: Notice how in the video it just shows him saying and talking offensively to her but it don&#8217;t show what she says beforehand<br />
Steven6777: Because all she talks is bullshit<br />
KevInMcA 10 7: Yeah<br />
Steven6777: OMFG<br />
Steven6777: SO FUNNY<br />
Steven6777: The abused says &#8220;He said don&#8217;t look at him like you&#8217;re interested in what he&#8217;s doing&#8221; and she said &#8220;I think I am interested in what he&#8217;s doing&#8221;<br />
Steven6777: THAT&#8217;S A FUCKING LIE<br />
Steven6777: LIE<br />
Steven6777: The man said that to prove a point<br />
KevInMcA 10 7: yeah<br />
Steven6777: DUDE<br />
Steven6777: THIS VIDEO IS BULLSHIT<br />
KevInMcA 10 7: I knoww
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		<title>by: Marcy</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/09/18/video-on-domestic-violence/#comment-453027</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 23:46:19 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/09/18/video-on-domestic-violence/#comment-453027</guid>
					<description>I'm coming late to the party.  Other than spinning forums (spinning wool, not spinning on a bike), I've ratcheted down my reading of blogs because I am too sensitive.  I get horribly fucked up for days over shit.  This post being a prime example.  I am so fucking pissed off that this kind of shit goes on.  His kids are gonna be fucked up abusing assholes.  Ugh!  

Anyway, I wanted to comment on the question about why women will date men who have been convicted of crimes, who are known wife abusers/killers, etc.

I think the answer is simple.  In a patriarchy, women are going to by default have low self-esteem.  I can't remember the feminist writer who said that a woman can't begin her path to feminism, until she comes to terms with the fact that she has been brainwashed that there is something wrong with her BECAUSE she is a woman.  So, by default women have this self-esteem issue.  And since people are individuals with differing experiences, not everyone is going to have the same amount of self-esteem.  Some women end up with more due to the way they are raised, their circumstances, their natural inclination to question things, etc.

Now add in that in a patriarchy any single man is deemed by default to be superior to any single woman.  No matter how creepy, disgusting, criminal, diseased, stupid, etc. a guy is, there is a woman with low enough self-esteem that she thinks he's a catch.  

I remember when I discovered this.  I was working in a medical lab that had the billing department in the same building.  There was a female manager who was married to a doctor.  She was very pretty.  The doctor, on the other hand, was 5'2&quot;, very overweight, wore big gawdy jewelry and kept his shirt unbuttoned way too far down.  He looked like a troll.  He was known for making his employees sit on his lap and give him a kiss for their Christmas bonuses.  Her own daughter even asked her, &quot;Mom, are you attracted to Dad?&quot;  She noticed the discrepancy.  I remember asking people, &quot;Why is she with him?&quot;  And they said, like it was common sense.  &quot;Well, he's a rich doctor.&quot;  But I followed up with, &quot;There are rich, ATTRACTIVE doctors with less obnoxious personalities.&quot;  Apparently, her self-esteem was so low that she felt that this troll was the best she could do.  

I think we tend to forget that low self-esteem of women is intrinsic to a patriarchy.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;m coming late to the party.  Other than spinning forums (spinning wool, not spinning on a bike), I&#8217;ve ratcheted down my reading of blogs because I am too sensitive.  I get horribly fucked up for days over shit.  This post being a prime example.  I am so fucking pissed off that this kind of shit goes on.  His kids are gonna be fucked up abusing assholes.  Ugh!  </p>
	<p>Anyway, I wanted to comment on the question about why women will date men who have been convicted of crimes, who are known wife abusers/killers, etc.</p>
	<p>I think the answer is simple.  In a patriarchy, women are going to by default have low self-esteem.  I can&#8217;t remember the feminist writer who said that a woman can&#8217;t begin her path to feminism, until she comes to terms with the fact that she has been brainwashed that there is something wrong with her BECAUSE she is a woman.  So, by default women have this self-esteem issue.  And since people are individuals with differing experiences, not everyone is going to have the same amount of self-esteem.  Some women end up with more due to the way they are raised, their circumstances, their natural inclination to question things, etc.</p>
	<p>Now add in that in a patriarchy any single man is deemed by default to be superior to any single woman.  No matter how creepy, disgusting, criminal, diseased, stupid, etc. a guy is, there is a woman with low enough self-esteem that she thinks he&#8217;s a catch.  </p>
	<p>I remember when I discovered this.  I was working in a medical lab that had the billing department in the same building.  There was a female manager who was married to a doctor.  She was very pretty.  The doctor, on the other hand, was 5&#8242;2&#8243;, very overweight, wore big gawdy jewelry and kept his shirt unbuttoned way too far down.  He looked like a troll.  He was known for making his employees sit on his lap and give him a kiss for their Christmas bonuses.  Her own daughter even asked her, &#8220;Mom, are you attracted to Dad?&#8221;  She noticed the discrepancy.  I remember asking people, &#8220;Why is she with him?&#8221;  And they said, like it was common sense.  &#8220;Well, he&#8217;s a rich doctor.&#8221;  But I followed up with, &#8220;There are rich, ATTRACTIVE doctors with less obnoxious personalities.&#8221;  Apparently, her self-esteem was so low that she felt that this troll was the best she could do.  </p>
	<p>I think we tend to forget that low self-esteem of women is intrinsic to a patriarchy.
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		<title>by: Doctor Memory</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/09/18/video-on-domestic-violence/#comment-452924</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:50:16 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/09/18/video-on-domestic-violence/#comment-452924</guid>
					<description>Lib: you don't like being called a liar?  My heart bleeds for you.  Consider lying less.

Since I'm not the person claiming to do things that I haven't in a public forum, I'm afraid I must decline your request to stalk me.  If you can't get it together enough to muster a scanner, a black marker and a free web host in support of your claims, that is very much not my problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Lib: you don&#8217;t like being called a liar?  My heart bleeds for you.  Consider lying less.</p>
	<p>Since I&#8217;m not the person claiming to do things that I haven&#8217;t in a public forum, I&#8217;m afraid I must decline your request to stalk me.  If you can&#8217;t get it together enough to muster a scanner, a black marker and a free web host in support of your claims, that is very much not my problem.
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		<title>by: Cerise Ly</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/09/18/video-on-domestic-violence/#comment-452670</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:41:53 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/09/18/video-on-domestic-violence/#comment-452670</guid>
					<description>I think it is different for a mother when it comes to sticking around for  a child.  My brother lost a parent and was left with the abusive when not neglectful narcissistic one.  I felt bad for him because he is autistic and I believed that his remaining parent would effectively murder him by suicide.  He once put a knife to himself and she didn't take it away from him.  She took it as an opportunity to scream at him.  At no time did I see fear for his safety or concern for his mental and emotional wellbeing.  Well by sticking around I continued to bear the brunt of the abuse and I have seen that he is inherently feeble and willl side with the abuser and when he is emotionally frustrated and anger will make attempts to actually ignite a tirade against me by her.  Although he does need me, it's only as a daily provider of services without bonding to me so I finally feel satisfied that there is nothing more for me to do for him and that I can leave them both.  I don't feel any regret for the last few years when I felt he was in danger even though I don't really have a brother or any family worth missing.  He is unappreciative and entitled about friends in his life as well.  I know that the parent intentionally ruined him as I watched her steer him towards pettiness but she tried the same thing with me first and it didn't take, </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I think it is different for a mother when it comes to sticking around for  a child.  My brother lost a parent and was left with the abusive when not neglectful narcissistic one.  I felt bad for him because he is autistic and I believed that his remaining parent would effectively murder him by suicide.  He once put a knife to himself and she didn&#8217;t take it away from him.  She took it as an opportunity to scream at him.  At no time did I see fear for his safety or concern for his mental and emotional wellbeing.  Well by sticking around I continued to bear the brunt of the abuse and I have seen that he is inherently feeble and willl side with the abuser and when he is emotionally frustrated and anger will make attempts to actually ignite a tirade against me by her.  Although he does need me, it&#8217;s only as a daily provider of services without bonding to me so I finally feel satisfied that there is nothing more for me to do for him and that I can leave them both.  I don&#8217;t feel any regret for the last few years when I felt he was in danger even though I don&#8217;t really have a brother or any family worth missing.  He is unappreciative and entitled about friends in his life as well.  I know that the parent intentionally ruined him as I watched her steer him towards pettiness but she tried the same thing with me first and it didn&#8217;t take,
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		<title>by: Rumblelizard</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/09/18/video-on-domestic-violence/#comment-452037</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:49:09 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/09/18/video-on-domestic-violence/#comment-452037</guid>
					<description>Tzu, why is it our job to politely coddle Libertarian's dumbfuck opinions?  Or yours, for that matter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Tzu, why is it our job to politely coddle Libertarian&#8217;s dumbfuck opinions?  Or yours, for that matter?
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		<title>by: Tzu</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/09/18/video-on-domestic-violence/#comment-451920</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:27:22 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/09/18/video-on-domestic-violence/#comment-451920</guid>
					<description>One comment. Why attack or be negative (ie 'shut up') to people who exhibit a normal human curiosity. It is a goddamn natural reaction to wonder why someone might stay in an abusive relationship. I understand that if you were in one you may not wonder about why at all, but don't tell others that they can't be curious about how a human behaved in a certain situation. Jesus H. fucking christ on a fucking pogo stick! It is natural to try to understand behavior that doesn't seem to make sense to you personally. I'm sure the libertarian person did not voice his curiosity to demean you in any way. He just voiced his opinion. Probably never having been abused it does not make sense, why not have a dialogue with libertarian instead of lambasting his comment. Realize your own negativity and aggression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>One comment. Why attack or be negative (ie &#8217;shut up&#8217;) to people who exhibit a normal human curiosity. It is a goddamn natural reaction to wonder why someone might stay in an abusive relationship. I understand that if you were in one you may not wonder about why at all, but don&#8217;t tell others that they can&#8217;t be curious about how a human behaved in a certain situation. Jesus H. fucking christ on a fucking pogo stick! It is natural to try to understand behavior that doesn&#8217;t seem to make sense to you personally. I&#8217;m sure the libertarian person did not voice his curiosity to demean you in any way. He just voiced his opinion. Probably never having been abused it does not make sense, why not have a dialogue with libertarian instead of lambasting his comment. Realize your own negativity and aggression.
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		<title>by: inge</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/09/18/video-on-domestic-violence/#comment-451507</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:20:16 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/09/18/video-on-domestic-violence/#comment-451507</guid>
					<description>the Sister @ 129: &lt;i&gt;Its hard to feel empathy or even sympathy for someone who has the mentality of “it can’t/won’t happen to me” and when it does are shocked.&lt;/i&gt;

The way to deal with that, I found, is not to spend to much effort into being sympathetic, but instead put the effort into being useful when the shit hits the fan (as it will). Sympathy won't drive the getaway car or take care of the dog.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>the Sister @ 129: <i>Its hard to feel empathy or even sympathy for someone who has the mentality of “it can’t/won’t happen to me” and when it does are shocked.</i></p>
	<p>The way to deal with that, I found, is not to spend to much effort into being sympathetic, but instead put the effort into being useful when the shit hits the fan (as it will). Sympathy won&#8217;t drive the getaway car or take care of the dog.
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		<title>by: Lorelei</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/09/18/video-on-domestic-violence/#comment-451465</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 03:59:26 +0100</pubDate>
		<guid>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/09/18/video-on-domestic-violence/#comment-451465</guid>
					<description>well! I'd like to move to Buck's society!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>well! I&#8217;d like to move to Buck&#8217;s society!!
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