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		<title>by: sbgypsy</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/09/13/how-not-to-protest-unjust-wars/#comment-450634</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 16:45:07 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;The list of names is supposed to remind the audience that war is a horrible waste of human life and shouldn’t be undertaken for reasons like right wingers and George W. Bush are insecure in their masculinity and/or just really get a rise out of killing some foreigners.&lt;/i&gt;

you see, those are their MARTYRS now. And all the Iraq war dead are also their Martyrs. Plus and especially the ones who will die in the next few months, covering Bushco's ass - er, SUCCEEDING in Iraq.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>The list of names is supposed to remind the audience that war is a horrible waste of human life and shouldn’t be undertaken for reasons like right wingers and George W. Bush are insecure in their masculinity and/or just really get a rise out of killing some foreigners.</i></p>
	<p>you see, those are their MARTYRS now. And all the Iraq war dead are also their Martyrs. Plus and especially the ones who will die in the next few months, covering Bushco&#8217;s ass - er, SUCCEEDING in Iraq.
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		<title>by: Lee Brimmicombe-Wood</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/09/13/how-not-to-protest-unjust-wars/#comment-450362</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 06:30:48 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’ll bet that Michele Malkin would have done very well in Vichy France.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Let us not forget that Petain was an arch-conservative, a veteran and a member of the establishment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>I’ll bet that Michele Malkin would have done very well in Vichy France.</p></blockquote>
	<p>Let us not forget that Petain was an arch-conservative, a veteran and a member of the establishment.
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		<title>by: Tom</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/09/13/how-not-to-protest-unjust-wars/#comment-450264</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 17:52:37 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>I'll bet that Michele Malkin would have done very well in Vichy France.</description>
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		<title>by: atheist</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/09/13/how-not-to-protest-unjust-wars/#comment-450227</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 14:38:52 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Anyway, almost no-one outside of Michelle Malkin seems interested in this, so who gives a shit.</description>
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		<title>by: tpx</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/09/13/how-not-to-protest-unjust-wars/#comment-450220</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 13:51:21 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Even though I appreciate the desecration of military worship displays, I do not consider the wall to be such a memorial. I was just stating my dislike of all of the public displays for warrior worship in America. In my city they actually fly the South Vietnamese flag next to the US one at their Vietnam Occupation memorial. 

Sure, the Americans who killed Vietnamese were trapped by circumstances and their sacrifices are worthy of grief; their memories and descendants should be free of political comment. However, the public displays of our warrior worshiping culture need to come down just like the statures of Stalin were.        </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Even though I appreciate the desecration of military worship displays, I do not consider the wall to be such a memorial. I was just stating my dislike of all of the public displays for warrior worship in America. In my city they actually fly the South Vietnamese flag next to the US one at their Vietnam Occupation memorial. </p>
	<p>Sure, the Americans who killed Vietnamese were trapped by circumstances and their sacrifices are worthy of grief; their memories and descendants should be free of political comment. However, the public displays of our warrior worshiping culture need to come down just like the statures of Stalin were.
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		<title>by: mythago</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/09/13/how-not-to-protest-unjust-wars/#comment-450200</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:32:03 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;But pointing to the other side and saying “They’re worse about it!” doesn’t excuse our own behavior.&lt;/i&gt;

Actually, dwight, I'm not claiming two wrongs make a right. I'm pointing at you and your shrieking buddies and saying &quot;You're being dishonest, opportunistic assholes who just showed us all--again--that your most fervent wish is for your ideology to be the dominant regime in a Stalinist state.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>But pointing to the other side and saying “They’re worse about it!” doesn’t excuse our own behavior.</i></p>
	<p>Actually, dwight, I&#8217;m not claiming two wrongs make a right. I&#8217;m pointing at you and your shrieking buddies and saying &#8220;You&#8217;re being dishonest, opportunistic assholes who just showed us all&#8211;again&#8211;that your most fervent wish is for your ideology to be the dominant regime in a Stalinist state.&#8221;
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		<title>by: seeker6079</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/09/13/how-not-to-protest-unjust-wars/#comment-450178</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 08:19:11 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>dwight, call them what they are: the Blackwater employees are mercenaries, effectively outside the chain of command, ludicrously expensive, and wholly accountable to the oversight process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>dwight, call them what they are: the Blackwater employees are mercenaries, effectively outside the chain of command, ludicrously expensive, and wholly accountable to the oversight process.
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		<title>by: atheist</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/09/13/how-not-to-protest-unjust-wars/#comment-450174</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 08:03:29 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;In fact, I commended her for bring it up. I did state (and stand by it) that there is a lack of opposition to this kind of action. Right now this incident is not mentioned on the front page of either HuffPo or DailyKos.&lt;/i&gt;

Oh, because I didn't get shrilly exercised about some bullshit stupid vandalism, which may have even been a stupid mistake instead, and because I let the police do their work rather than trying to make it into some kinda cause celebre, that means it's my fault Dwight? So, if some random idiot squirts WD-40 on the vietnam memorial for some stupid reason, and I don't spend like a day trying to 'get the word out' about it, that means I somehow support the random idiot and his/her act of random idiocy? Do you and I have to protest every act of random idiocy in the world, or in my country? If so, Dwight, we are gonna be really, really busy. In fact, Dwight, I really doubt that you or I &lt;i&gt;could&lt;/i&gt; protest every random idiot and their act of idiocy. 

But thanks for trying to blame it all on me, asshole.

I'm tired of this bullshit from people who, because of whatever mental problem, take symbols and flags far more seriously than they take people's lives. 

The fact that nearly 4000 US troops have died, and tens of thousands of US troops are severly wounded, many for life? No problem. A small price to pay. That something like 100,000 Iraqis have been killed, and their country reduced to rubble? Who cares?

Oh, but some dumbass kid sqirted WD-40 on the Vietnam Memorial? &lt;i&gt;Well fuckin' stop everthing, it's a national emergency!!&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>In fact, I commended her for bring it up. I did state (and stand by it) that there is a lack of opposition to this kind of action. Right now this incident is not mentioned on the front page of either HuffPo or DailyKos.</i></p>
	<p>Oh, because I didn&#8217;t get shrilly exercised about some bullshit stupid vandalism, which may have even been a stupid mistake instead, and because I let the police do their work rather than trying to make it into some kinda cause celebre, that means it&#8217;s my fault Dwight? So, if some random idiot squirts WD-40 on the vietnam memorial for some stupid reason, and I don&#8217;t spend like a day trying to &#8216;get the word out&#8217; about it, that means I somehow support the random idiot and his/her act of random idiocy? Do you and I have to protest every act of random idiocy in the world, or in my country? If so, Dwight, we are gonna be really, really busy. In fact, Dwight, I really doubt that you or I <i>could</i> protest every random idiot and their act of idiocy. </p>
	<p>But thanks for trying to blame it all on me, asshole.</p>
	<p>I&#8217;m tired of this bullshit from people who, because of whatever mental problem, take symbols and flags far more seriously than they take people&#8217;s lives. </p>
	<p>The fact that nearly 4000 US troops have died, and tens of thousands of US troops are severly wounded, many for life? No problem. A small price to pay. That something like 100,000 Iraqis have been killed, and their country reduced to rubble? Who cares?</p>
	<p>Oh, but some dumbass kid sqirted WD-40 on the Vietnam Memorial? <i>Well fuckin&#8217; stop everthing, it&#8217;s a national emergency!!</i>
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		<title>by: Lori</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/09/13/how-not-to-protest-unjust-wars/#comment-450127</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:04:51 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description> remember when I was in high school sometime between 1986-1988, my school group visited Washington D.C.  Reagan was President and the week we were there someone carved a swastika into one of the panels of the Vietnam memorial.  While disgusting and tragic it was pretty much treated like a random act of vandalism. It does require a lot of work, sanding down and re-engraving the names.    </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>remember when I was in high school sometime between 1986-1988, my school group visited Washington D.C.  Reagan was President and the week we were there someone carved a swastika into one of the panels of the Vietnam memorial.  While disgusting and tragic it was pretty much treated like a random act of vandalism. It does require a lot of work, sanding down and re-engraving the names.
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		<title>by: labyrus</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/09/13/how-not-to-protest-unjust-wars/#comment-450095</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:44:52 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>This is just wierd.

There really isn't any propaganda value (for anyone) in &quot;discolouring&quot; a war memorial. Blowing it up, maybe, but a minor act of vandalism like this serves no purpose (except, perhaps, the one it already has begun to accomplish, encouraging centrists to dissasociate itself from the active anti-war movement).

I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be police agents provocateurs. Or someone from the far right.</description>
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	<p>There really isn&#8217;t any propaganda value (for anyone) in &#8220;discolouring&#8221; a war memorial. Blowing it up, maybe, but a minor act of vandalism like this serves no purpose (except, perhaps, the one it already has begun to accomplish, encouraging centrists to dissasociate itself from the active anti-war movement).</p>
	<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if it turns out to be police agents provocateurs. Or someone from the far right.
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