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		<title>by: MAJeff, the God of Biscuits</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/31/an-explanation-through-the-power-of-theatre/#comment-447217</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 09:33:36 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Well, that’s more or less Louis’s function, and that’s why all the other characters got so exasperated with him.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That's why the scene with him and Belize is so fucking amazing. 

&lt;i&gt;Well I hate America, Louis.  I hate this country.  It's just big ideas, and stories, and people dying, and people like you.

    The white cracker who wrote the national anthem knew what he was doing.  He set the word &quot;free&quot; to a note so high nobody can reach it.  That was deliberate.  Nothing on earth sounds less like freedom to me.

    You come with me to room 1013 over at the hospital.  I'll show you America. Terminal, crazy and mean.

I live in America, Louis, that's hard enough, I don't have to love it. You do that.  Everybody's got to love something.&lt;/i&gt;

And Prior's monologue with the Angels? amazing

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>Well, that’s more or less Louis’s function, and that’s why all the other characters got so exasperated with him.</p></blockquote>
	<p>That&#8217;s why the scene with him and Belize is so fucking amazing. </p>
	<p><i>Well I hate America, Louis.  I hate this country.  It&#8217;s just big ideas, and stories, and people dying, and people like you.</p>
	<p>    The white cracker who wrote the national anthem knew what he was doing.  He set the word &#8220;free&#8221; to a note so high nobody can reach it.  That was deliberate.  Nothing on earth sounds less like freedom to me.</p>
	<p>    You come with me to room 1013 over at the hospital.  I&#8217;ll show you America. Terminal, crazy and mean.</p>
	<p>I live in America, Louis, that&#8217;s hard enough, I don&#8217;t have to love it. You do that.  Everybody&#8217;s got to love something.</i></p>
	<p>And Prior&#8217;s monologue with the Angels? amazing</p>
	<p>WE WILL BE CITIZENS!
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		<title>by: flea</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/31/an-explanation-through-the-power-of-theatre/#comment-447129</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 12:12:43 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;I know Pandagon’s authors have no control over ads that run here, but sheesh, these JohnQ ads. It’s like they’re running them here just to be assholes.&lt;/i&gt;

I thought the exact same thing. How nice it must be to have so much cash you're able to blow some of it just to annoy Amanda!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>I know Pandagon’s authors have no control over ads that run here, but sheesh, these JohnQ ads. It’s like they’re running them here just to be assholes.</i></p>
	<p>I thought the exact same thing. How nice it must be to have so much cash you&#8217;re able to blow some of it just to annoy Amanda!
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		<title>by: MikeEss</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/31/an-explanation-through-the-power-of-theatre/#comment-447061</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:47:37 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Really? I get kind of a Smeagol vibe off of his picture, but then I’m petty and shallow.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

That is incredibly nasty and harsh.  What did Gollum ever do (fictionally) that was anything like as evil as stuff Roy Cohn did in real life?...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>&#8220;Really? I get kind of a Smeagol vibe off of his picture, but then I’m petty and shallow.&#8221;</i></p>
	<p>That is incredibly nasty and harsh.  What did Gollum ever do (fictionally) that was anything like as evil as stuff Roy Cohn did in real life?&#8230;
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		<title>by: Craig</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/31/an-explanation-through-the-power-of-theatre/#comment-447060</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:40:00 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;My sense in looking at pictures of Cohn is that he’s probably the sort of person I’d find to be both extremely attractive and repellant.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Really?  I get kind of a Smeagol vibe off of his picture, but then I'm petty and shallow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote cite=""><p>My sense in looking at pictures of Cohn is that he’s probably the sort of person I’d find to be both extremely attractive and repellant.</p></blockquote>
	<p>Really?  I get kind of a Smeagol vibe off of his picture, but then I&#8217;m petty and shallow.
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		<title>by: Henry Holland</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/31/an-explanation-through-the-power-of-theatre/#comment-447045</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 17:23:26 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;You say that like it’s a bad thing!&lt;/i&gt;

Hahahaha.  I hate being lectured, whether it's my parents, a playwright or a TV show.  There's ways to get political and social ideas across other than using the literary equivalent of a club to do so.  I felt like a recipient of a Three Stooges beatdown the entire time I was in the theater.  

I also felt insulted, that Kushner didn't bother with subtlety at all, that he presumed we were all so clueless and uninformed that we *needed* to be lectured.  Hey, asswipe playwright, *I* lived through the AIDS catastrophe from the get-go, I didn't need *you* to yell at me about it.  I've often felt the plays, despite their absurd &quot;Gay Fantasia On American Themes&quot; subtitle, were written for the Cletus and Brandine's of this world.

&lt;i&gt;Well, that’s more or less Louis’s function, and that’s why all the other characters got so exasperated with him&lt;/i&gt;

That's fine, but we, the audience, shouldn't be yearning for him to develop laryngitis so he'll just shut. the. hell. UP. for the remainder of the play.

Speaking of long plays as I was, one of the best days I've spent in the theater was watching the two-part adaptation of the &lt;i&gt;Cider House Rules&lt;/i&gt; that played here in Los Angeles at the Taper.  It helped that I loved the book and the movie, but the time flew by watching it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><i>You say that like it’s a bad thing!</i></p>
	<p>Hahahaha.  I hate being lectured, whether it&#8217;s my parents, a playwright or a TV show.  There&#8217;s ways to get political and social ideas across other than using the literary equivalent of a club to do so.  I felt like a recipient of a Three Stooges beatdown the entire time I was in the theater.  </p>
	<p>I also felt insulted, that Kushner didn&#8217;t bother with subtlety at all, that he presumed we were all so clueless and uninformed that we *needed* to be lectured.  Hey, asswipe playwright, *I* lived through the AIDS catastrophe from the get-go, I didn&#8217;t need *you* to yell at me about it.  I&#8217;ve often felt the plays, despite their absurd &#8220;Gay Fantasia On American Themes&#8221; subtitle, were written for the Cletus and Brandine&#8217;s of this world.</p>
	<p><i>Well, that’s more or less Louis’s function, and that’s why all the other characters got so exasperated with him</i></p>
	<p>That&#8217;s fine, but we, the audience, shouldn&#8217;t be yearning for him to develop laryngitis so he&#8217;ll just shut. the. hell. UP. for the remainder of the play.</p>
	<p>Speaking of long plays as I was, one of the best days I&#8217;ve spent in the theater was watching the two-part adaptation of the <i>Cider House Rules</i> that played here in Los Angeles at the Taper.  It helped that I loved the book and the movie, but the time flew by watching it.
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		<title>by: CBrachyrhynchos</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/31/an-explanation-through-the-power-of-theatre/#comment-446987</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 11:34:45 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Well, yes, &quot;all things being equal&quot; sort of implies that the celebrity crush doesn't involve bad hairpieces or smells. (Does any celebrity crush include these things?) But mostly I was snarking as to the question of why would anyone find Cohn attractive, with one interpretation of this question being that Cohn was unattractive because as of the events fictionalized in this clip, he was old.  My sense in looking at pictures of Cohn is that he's probably the sort of person I'd find to be both extremely attractive and repellant.  Which is annoying as shit when it happens, but still occurs now and then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Well, yes, &#8220;all things being equal&#8221; sort of implies that the celebrity crush doesn&#8217;t involve bad hairpieces or smells. (Does any celebrity crush include these things?) But mostly I was snarking as to the question of why would anyone find Cohn attractive, with one interpretation of this question being that Cohn was unattractive because as of the events fictionalized in this clip, he was old.  My sense in looking at pictures of Cohn is that he&#8217;s probably the sort of person I&#8217;d find to be both extremely attractive and repellant.  Which is annoying as shit when it happens, but still occurs now and then.
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		<title>by: Dark Avenger GTGCM</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/31/an-explanation-through-the-power-of-theatre/#comment-446974</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 10:30:47 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Drury&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Allen Drury&lt;/a&gt; went to my high school, and AFAIK, I'm the only one from my high school to go to the &quot;Harvard of the  Midwest&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Drury" rel="nofollow">Allen Drury</a> went to my high school, and AFAIK, I&#8217;m the only one from my high school to go to the &#8220;Harvard of the  Midwest&#8221;.
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		<title>by: Mark Foxwell</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/31/an-explanation-through-the-power-of-theatre/#comment-446968</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 09:39:53 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Henry Holland
September 1, 2007 at 12:59 am 

I might have to return the toaster I got when I joined The Homosexual Agenda for typing this, but I must:

I thought AiA was utterly ghastly. I saw both parts one Saturday back in the 90’s and by the end of it, I was wondering what I’d done in a past life to justify the hell I was being put through. I’ve been to hundreds of plays in my life and I’ve never been through something as excruciating at the appalling Oldest Living Bolshevik scene. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Dang, that's one of my favorite bits (left out of the HBO version of course). Well, someone listed &lt;i&gt;A Scanner Darkly&lt;/i&gt; as their least favorite movie in Pam's recent thread, and I thought it was a work of genius, so it takes all kinds I guess.

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Kushner didn’t write a play, he wrote pre-blog blog rants with all the theatricality of paint drying. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You say that like it's a bad thing!

&lt;blockquote&gt;
By the end of the first part, I flinched every time the character of Louis came on stage, because I knew we were going to be subjected to another banal, deeply tedious political harangue. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, that's more or less Louis's function, and that's why all the other characters got so exasperated with him.

Naturally I identified with him, much to my mortification.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote><p>Henry Holland<br />
September 1, 2007 at 12:59 am </p>
	<p>I might have to return the toaster I got when I joined The Homosexual Agenda for typing this, but I must:</p>
	<p>I thought AiA was utterly ghastly. I saw both parts one Saturday back in the 90’s and by the end of it, I was wondering what I’d done in a past life to justify the hell I was being put through. I’ve been to hundreds of plays in my life and I’ve never been through something as excruciating at the appalling Oldest Living Bolshevik scene.
</p></blockquote>
	<p>Dang, that&#8217;s one of my favorite bits (left out of the HBO version of course). Well, someone listed <i>A Scanner Darkly</i> as their least favorite movie in Pam&#8217;s recent thread, and I thought it was a work of genius, so it takes all kinds I guess.</p>
	<blockquote><p>
Kushner didn’t write a play, he wrote pre-blog blog rants with all the theatricality of paint drying.
</p></blockquote>
	<p>You say that like it&#8217;s a bad thing!</p>
	<blockquote><p>
By the end of the first part, I flinched every time the character of Louis came on stage, because I knew we were going to be subjected to another banal, deeply tedious political harangue. </p></blockquote>
	<p>Well, that&#8217;s more or less Louis&#8217;s function, and that&#8217;s why all the other characters got so exasperated with him.</p>
	<p>Naturally I identified with him, much to my mortification.
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		<title>by: Henry Holland</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/31/an-explanation-through-the-power-of-theatre/#comment-446942</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 00:59:05 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>I might have to return the toaster I got when I joined The Homosexual Agenda for typing this, but I must:

I thought AiA was utterly ghastly.  I saw both parts one Saturday back in the 90's and by the end of it, I was wondering what I'd done in a past life to justify the hell I was being put through.  I've been to hundreds of plays in my life and I've never been through something as excruciating at the appalling &lt;i&gt;Oldest Living Bolshevik&lt;/i&gt; scene.  Kushner didn't write a play, he wrote pre-blog blog rants with all the theatricality of paint drying.  By the end of the first part, I flinched every time the character of Louis came on stage, because I knew we were going to be subjected to another banal, deeply tedious political harangue.  

The one moment where the play started coming alive for me was when the Angel was about to burst through Prior's roof.  Which Kushner then promptly undermined by having Prior turn to address the audience and say something like &quot;It's like a Spielberg movie, isn't it&quot;.  Awful.  He finally gets some theatrical momentum going and....he goes for a cheap, shitty joke.

I had no problem with the fact it was so long (I'm a big fan of Wagner's operas) but it could have easily been pruned down in to a 2 - 2 1/2 hour play.  &lt;i&gt;The Normal Heart&lt;/i&gt; covered some of the same ground and said it's piece in a quarter of the time.

David Marshall Grant sure was sexy as Joe Pitt, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I might have to return the toaster I got when I joined The Homosexual Agenda for typing this, but I must:</p>
	<p>I thought AiA was utterly ghastly.  I saw both parts one Saturday back in the 90&#8217;s and by the end of it, I was wondering what I&#8217;d done in a past life to justify the hell I was being put through.  I&#8217;ve been to hundreds of plays in my life and I&#8217;ve never been through something as excruciating at the appalling <i>Oldest Living Bolshevik</i> scene.  Kushner didn&#8217;t write a play, he wrote pre-blog blog rants with all the theatricality of paint drying.  By the end of the first part, I flinched every time the character of Louis came on stage, because I knew we were going to be subjected to another banal, deeply tedious political harangue.  </p>
	<p>The one moment where the play started coming alive for me was when the Angel was about to burst through Prior&#8217;s roof.  Which Kushner then promptly undermined by having Prior turn to address the audience and say something like &#8220;It&#8217;s like a Spielberg movie, isn&#8217;t it&#8221;.  Awful.  He finally gets some theatrical momentum going and&#8230;.he goes for a cheap, shitty joke.</p>
	<p>I had no problem with the fact it was so long (I&#8217;m a big fan of Wagner&#8217;s operas) but it could have easily been pruned down in to a 2 - 2 1/2 hour play.  <i>The Normal Heart</i> covered some of the same ground and said it&#8217;s piece in a quarter of the time.</p>
	<p>David Marshall Grant sure was sexy as Joe Pitt, though.
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		<title>by: Craig</title>
		<link>http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/08/31/an-explanation-through-the-power-of-theatre/#comment-446941</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 23:54:54 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;Recorder Julie Haggerty said the instruction came from the county attorney’s office after Judge Robert Hanson...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It's good to know she's still getting work after &lt;i&gt;Airplane!&lt;/i&gt;.

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;And well, all things being equal, I’d do All Pacino in a heartbeat. Assuming that he was all down with being in an out and open relationship with a man. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

When &lt;i&gt;The Insider&lt;/i&gt; was being filmed in Louisville, a friend of mine worked as an on-set paramedic (in case, you know, someone got all mauled during a stunt).  She came back from her first day on the set and said, &quot;Three things most people don't know about Al Pacino:  he's really short, wears an extremely fake-looking toupee, and smells really, really bad.&quot;  Just thought I'd throw that out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<blockquote cite=""><p>Recorder Julie Haggerty said the instruction came from the county attorney’s office after Judge Robert Hanson&#8230;</p></blockquote>
	<p>It&#8217;s good to know she&#8217;s still getting work after <i>Airplane!</i>.</p>
	<blockquote cite=""><p>And well, all things being equal, I’d do All Pacino in a heartbeat. Assuming that he was all down with being in an out and open relationship with a man. </p></blockquote>
	<p>When <i>The Insider</i> was being filmed in Louisville, a friend of mine worked as an on-set paramedic (in case, you know, someone got all mauled during a stunt).  She came back from her first day on the set and said, &#8220;Three things most people don&#8217;t know about Al Pacino:  he&#8217;s really short, wears an extremely fake-looking toupee, and smells really, really bad.&#8221;  Just thought I&#8217;d throw that out there.
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